The Spurs Youth Thread - 2017/2018

[Spurrific]

The Edwards hype is massively over the top, to be fair.

 

[Hengy1]

Remember most of what is making poch opinion on Edwards would be coming from McDermott.

He’s the one i assume would be seeing Edwards day in day out not poch

 

[coys200]

Players always become x10 better when they don’t play. Lamela apparantly is our saviour. In 3 weeks it will be oh Lamela **** off. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that.The point about Edwards for me is he can be mess like for 5 mins in game and nowhere for 85mins. But honestly I don’t care that’s just what we need off the bench in a Wembley stalemate. If it’s 0-0 on 70 mins Vs stoke and I need something special from the bench I want Edwards there. Yeah he might fall flat on his face, but he’s more than likely to fall flat on his face in penalty area and get us a penalty. If he then does a dab and plays Skepta really loud I don’t care tbh.

 

[Streetspur77]

Players always become x10 better when they don’t play. Lamela apparantly is our saviour. In 3 weeks it will be oh Lamela **** off. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that.The point about Edwards for me is he can be mess like for 5 mins in game and nowhere for 85mins. But honestly I don’t care that’s just what we need off the bench in a Wembley stalemate. If it’s 0-0 on 70 mins Vs stoke and I need something special from the bench I want Edwards there. Yeah he might fall flat on his face, but he’s more than likely to fall flat on his face in penalty area and get us a penalty. If he then does a dab and plays Skepta really loud I don’t care tbh.

But what if he falls flat on his face and gets carded for diving or just loses the ball?

Its clear Edwards is quite fragile, as shown by how much being compared to messi has supposedly affected him, and so a policy of care and waiting till he's 100% ready seems very sensible to me rather then rushing him and setting him back again

We're all frustrated but it's got to be what's best for everyone long term and if poch/mcdermott think the current course of action is best then I trust them personally

 

[Cravenspurs]

Tbh I can see where people are coming from with the obsession with Marcus Edwards thing. He's been built up into something that so far he hasn't proven to be. It's one thing having the talent he has, but it's all for nothing if he can't show the right attitude and dedication to see it through.

I find the tendency on here to blame it on Poch really annoying especially when he made a big push last season to bring Edwards into the first team, let's remember he spent nearly all of last season training with the first team and now he's taken a massive step backwards because so far this season he's not training with the first team at all.

He's gone from shadowing the first team in the same way Winks did before he made the step up, to being nowhere near the first team at all. For me that can only be on Edwards and somewhere something has gone wrong. I'm sure Pochettino is the most disappointed out of anyone with the situation.

The skill in the mold of Messi, but Messi didn't get where he is on skill alone. Dude wants it more than anyone and is the sole reason Argentina made it to the WC this year. Some kids just never grasp that idea and is why some of the most skilled players never make it and then you have a Jamie Vardy who goes on to win the league.

 

[The Apprentice]

I'd love to see how good Sissoko is in training.

 

[nicdic]

I know we're all disappointed but shouldn't be too surprising, when he's even getting dropped for u23 games here and there.

 

[kd2000]

I know some and maybe most on here are going to disagree but here goes.
Having seen edwards a number of times and even heard the bench giving him (very loudly) demands to hurry, run, quick marcus. He just seems a little too laid back at times. Yes with the ball at his feet he can be a game changer, however, Poch seems to prioritise players who work thwir asses off for their team mates.
Dont get me wrong i would love Edwards to succeed as he diffinately has skills with the ball at his feet.
I just dont know if thats enough

 

[coys200]

It’s clearly his attitude look at that teenage sulk

 

[Blake Griffin]

I know we're all disappointed but shouldn't be too surprising, when he's even getting dropped for u23 games here and there.

it's a bit presumptive to say that any games he misses are because he was dropped.

 

[coys200]

What do we reckon he’s on 5-10k a week. Own pad nice little motor girls falling at his feet 19 years old. Cushty little life,not surprised he can’t get up for an U23 game infront of 1 man and his dog. Maybe he needs the challenge if 1st team football. All a bit chicken and egg. Personally I’d just throw him in sink or swim.

 

[nicdic]

it's a bit presumptive to say that any games he misses are because he was dropped.

Is he injured?

 

[Blake Griffin]

Is he injured?

right now? i don't believe so.

he's missed 2(wasn't in the squad for either) of 11 u23 games this season which could've been for any number of reasons. i don't think it's right to paint the picture of him not being able to hold down an u23 place so therefore it's no surprise he hasn't been called up, that argument holds even less weight considering he's played more than either sterling or amos.

 

[raggy]

it's a bit presumptive to say that any games he misses are because he was dropped.

Don't you think it's a bit presumtive for various youth watchers I've seen on here and twitter to push a narrative that Poch is holding Edwards back rather than Edwards holding himself back?

 

[yankspurs]

Has to be training performance/attitude.

If it's a training thing with Edwards, then holy hell. Sissoko must be Pele, Maradona, Ginola, and Gazza all wrapped into one in training. Because when it comes to the games, he barely even qualifies as a footballer. Other than that, I refuse to believe anyone that is apparently close to breaking through wouldnt be better than him.

 

[Hengy1]

If it's a training thing with Edwards, then holy hell. Sissoko must be Pele, Maradona, Ginola, and Gazza all wrapped into one in training. Because when it comes to the games, he barely even qualifies as a footballer. Other than that, I refuse to believe anyone that is apparently close to breaking through wouldnt be better than him.

Normal hyperbole from you

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

In pochettinos book he praises Edwards on his talents but hints he needs to work at his work rate and attitude

Because talent is two-a-penny, work rate is special. Work rate wins matches and puts bums on seats. Jesus, Billy Nick must be spinning in his grave. We’re an effort team now, fuck the glory.

 

[raggy]

Because talent is two-a-penny, work rate is special. Work rate wins matches and puts bums on seats. Jesus, Billy Nick must be spinning in his grave. We’re an effort team now, fuck the glory.

Hard-work personified the push and run style that made the club famous. Talent doesn't get you very far without the hard-work.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Don't you think it's a bit presumtive for various youth watchers I've seen on here and twitter to push a narrative that Poch is holding Edwards back rather than Edwards holding himself back?

that's an entirely different discussion and one i don't really have any interest in getting drawn into as it's all largely based around conjecture. edwards starts every u23 game that he's involved in(bar the first game of the season where he'd only just returned to training) so it's a bit of a misdirection to imply he's not currently holding down a place. sterling on the other hand actually is in and out of u23 line ups - 7 starts and 6 sub apps this season.

 

[dondo]

Because talent is two-a-penny, work rate is special. Work rate wins matches and puts bums on seats. Jesus, Billy Nick must be spinning in his grave. We’re an effort team now, fuck the glory.

Talk about not getting what’s said
Bostock had loads of talent too at a young age.
You need more than talent, you need mental strength and aptitude as well.