The Summer Transfer Window POST MORTEM THREAD

[punkisback]

I think as our squad quality improves buying players to improve us becomes harder.

That's why you have to be clever and invest in decent scouts who can acquire good youth. To be honest we should be scouting and buying replacements for Eriksen, Jan, Rose and Dembele now rather than when they actually leave.

 

[dontcallme]

That's why you have to be clever and invest in decent scouts who can acquire good youth. To be honest we should be scouting and buying replacements for Eriksen, Jan, Rose and Dembele now rather than when they actually leave.

Who says we haven’t?

We don’t have extra room in our squad so won’t buy until we sell.

 

[dontcallme]

That's why you have to be clever and invest in decent scouts who can acquire good youth. To be honest we should be scouting and buying replacements for Eriksen, Jan, Rose and Dembele now rather than when they actually leave.

I find it very strange that we have assembled a squad finishing top three in three seasons with no real budget but we question our scouts.

The challenge we currently have is getting top quality players ahead of our wealthier rivals.

 

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I find it very strange that we have assembled a squad finishing top three in three seasons with no real budget but we question our scouts.

The challenge we currently have is getting top quality players ahead of our wealthier rivals.

Mate you seem adamant that there's "no real budget". Where is your information coming from? It's certain at odds with our resident ITKs who've all asserted we have money to spend.

 

[mawspurs]

Just look at what Daniel was saying last year https://www.givemesport.com/1108929...y-spurs-arent-making-any-signings-this-summer , so don't expect big signings in the near future.

Thanks for posting that link i’d completely forgotten about that interview. It’s exactly what has come to pass in the transfer window , I suspect Levy and Poch were in complete agreement over this window. Poch may well have been disappointed we couldn’t get our targets but Levy is following what Poch’s philosophy requires.

Believe in the academy and supplement it with top quality if you can get it. We couldn’t so we stuck with what we have.

 

[dontcallme]

Mate you seem adamant that there's "no real budget". Where is your information coming from? It's certain at odds with our resident ITKs who've all asserted we have money to spend.

Sorry "mate" but you have not understood my point. I said "we have assembled" a squad with no real budget. This is the present perfect tense.

The present perfect tense is used for actions in the past up until the present.

So my post was not about the present to the future.

I did not say we do not have money to spend now or in the future so your reply is nonsensical.

I have said in other posts we have money to spend but have a high quality squad, so to improve on it is to buy players at the quality our rivals want but to make a more attractive offer than the likes of City, Liverpool, Utd and others. How we do that I am not sure.

 

[dontcallme]

I find it very strange that we have assembled a squad finishing top three in three seasons with no real budget but we question our scouts.

The challenge we currently have is getting top quality players ahead of our wealthier rivals.

Sorry @mawspurs , I don't want to be someone who questions a neg rep but do you not think we have a challenge to buy quality players over our rivals or that the squad we have assembled so far has been done within a budget?

I think these things are pretty evident.

 

[dontcallme]

Thanks for posting that link i’d completely forgotten about that interview. It’s exactly what has come to pass in the transfer window , I suspect Levy and Poch were in complete agreement over this window. Poch may well have been disappointed we couldn’t get our targets but Levy is following what Poch’s philosophy requires.

Believe in the academy and supplement it with top quality if you can get it. We couldn’t so we stuck with what we have.

And your post on the subject completely agrees with mine so no idea what you are disliking.

 

[mawspurs]

Sorry @mawspurs , I don't want to be someone who questions a neg rep but do you not think we have a challenge to buy quality players over our rivals or that the squad we have assembled so far has been done within a budget?

I think these things are pretty evident.

Sorry did I neg rep you, if so it was completely unintentional, which post number? I’ll remove it

Edit: got it and fixed, sorry for the fat fingers

 

[dontcallme]

Sorry did I neg rep you, if so it was completely unintentional, which post number? I’ll remove it

Don't worry about it. I don't mind a neg rep I just found it strange as our posts agree with each other.

 

[mawspurs]

Don't worry about it. I don't mind a neg rep I just found it strange as our posts agree with each other.

Yeah I think we do have cash, but chose not to spend it as our ‘plan A’s’ were unobtainable.

 

[dontcallme]

Yeah I think we do have cash, but chose not to spend it as our ‘plan A’s’ were unobtainable.

Exactly.

I do wonder what our way forward is now. Obviously we all want to progress and get better.

Do we hope, as the squad is young, they will improve under quality coaching and become more of a unit as they are secure in their place in the squad?

Or do we need to change our way of doing transfers? We need quality and have been linked with the likes of Martial, Bale, Modric, Kovacic etc. For a number of reasons, not just financial, these are really difficult deals to do.

Liverpool appear to have got round this challenge by paying huge agent fees. While we can't do it on the level they have maybe we need to make one attainable player a target, then loosen the purse strings on the fees required to buy the player. Those who have read any books or articles on doing a deal know the expense of buying a player isn't simply the transfer fee.

 

[mawspurs]

I think our best way forward is to actually win something, proving we are winners will make us more attractive to prospective signings. It’s a catch 22 though as we may need to add more quality to enable us to actually do it.

 

[mawspurs]

The annoying one is Grealish as I think we could have done it we pulled the trigger at the right time. We delayed and it cost us the chance to complete the deal.

 

[dontcallme]

The annoying one is Grealish as I think we could have done it we pulled the trigger at the right time. We delayed and it cost us the chance to complete the deal.

Maybe, we really don't know the details of the deal. It sounds like they were asking for a huge amount of money.

Overspending on a target is one thing but it still has to be within reason. If Grealish is a top talent then maybe we should have spent the extra but I am not sure he was seen as a true top talent. More a player to develop and become a first team squad member.

 

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Sorry "mate" but you have not understood my point. I said "we have assembled" a squad with no real budget. This is the present perfect tense.

The present perfect tense is used for actions in the past up until the present.

So my post was not about the present to the future.

I did not say we do not have money to spend now or in the future so your reply is nonsensical.

I have said in other posts we have money to spend but have a high quality squad, so to improve on it is to buy players at the quality our rivals want but to make a more attractive offer than the likes of City, Liverpool, Utd and others. How we do that I am not sure.

Ah "mate", no need to get spiky, and certainly no need for the patronising grammar lesson. I was merely asking if you had any insider information on the "budget" as you'd used the word so emphatically. But I realise now that when you said "we have assembled a squad with no real BUDGET", you probably meant "no real OUTLAY". Apologies for misunderstanding you. I'm not so sure I agree with your last point. Wasn't Grealish mooted as a Sissoko replacement? I certainly don't remember us being in competition with any of the club's you mentioned for Jack's signature.

 

[dontcallme]

Ah "mate", no need to get spiky, and certainly no need for the patronising grammar lesson. I was merely asking if you had any insider information on the "budget" as you'd used the word so emphatically. But I realise now that when you said "we have assembled a squad with no real BUDGET", you probably meant "no real OUTLAY". Apologies for misunderstanding you. I'm not so sure I agree with your last point. Wasn't Grealish mooted as a Sissoko replacement? I certainly don't remember us being in competition with any of the club's you mentioned for Jack's signature.

Certainly didn't want to give anyone a grammar lesson but when someone disagrees with you because they didn't understand the tense being used I thought it best to explain myself.

I believe we didn't have an outlay because we didn't have a budget. We have been relatively consistently having a zero net spend.

I don't want to turn this thread into a Grealish discussion but imo he was a squad player to develop rather than a bona fide first team starter. For our main targets I maintain our challenge is trying to get these players ahead of rivals.

 

[dontcallme]

Ah "mate", no need to get spiky, and certainly no need for the patronising grammar lesson. I was merely asking if you had any insider information on the "budget" as you'd used the word so emphatically. But I realise now that when you said "we have assembled a squad with no real BUDGET", you probably meant "no real OUTLAY". Apologies for misunderstanding you. I'm not so sure I agree with your last point. Wasn't Grealish mooted as a Sissoko replacement? I certainly don't remember us being in competition with any of the club's you mentioned for Jack's signature.

Also sorry for being spiky.

Had a few drinks and probably misread the tone of your post.

 

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Also sorry for being spiky.

Had a few drinks and probably misread the tone of your post.

No worries at all Dontcallme! It's been pretty fraught on here this summer so I think we've all of us been on the defensive a little. Take good care!

 

[TorontoYid]

The problem isn't the quality of our team, it is the lack of depth. a few injuries and we a

Hugo , Jan ,Toby and others are at their peak, this squad was good enough the match R Madrid and should have beaten Juventus we have to trust Poch to conjure another great season out of these players .

This squad was not good enough to win the league and our rivals have gotten stronger. We managed a decent season last year but if the team was not good enough to win the league and the other top 5 teams have strengthened, it starts to look like we will struggle to make the top 4 and get CL football next season. When all of our first team are fit and well we are a top 4 team but as soon as injuries creep in or players can't play for whatever reason we are relying on players like Sissoko which speaks volumes.

I thought the ambition was to win the Premier League though? Starting to look like Spurs will be happy to fight for 4th place.