Thoughts on AVB

[piedpiper]

I bet he took her to sexual highs you could only dream of too. Amirite?

That was the least of my problems that night. She leaving me for the spurs manager. That I could not handle.

The crazy things spurs put us through.

 

[Son of Saintlyspur]

I for one am happy with AVB thus far, personally I think the way he handled the substitutions during the Sunderland game was exceptional.. After Bale received his 5th yellow of the season he took Lennon and Defoe off who only needed one card each and they would be in the same situation and would leave us shy on speed in the attacking department for the game against Reading.

He certainly has more vision than our previous manager who would go to 80+ minutes at times before making a well needed change! AVB isn't afraid to make a change to the team sometimes it doesn't come off but I for one am happy that we are not becoming stagnant by sticking to the same tactics game on game...

He hasn't done much wrong in my opinion, he comes across extremely professional during conferences and interviews and shows a passion to win which is something that we want the managers/coaches/players and fans to show during every game! COYS!!

 

[antlesh]

Personally in the last 18 years I can’t remember seeing a more balanced Tottenham side. You have to give a proportion of this credit to AVB.

However, I think it is a team effort at the moment..... Especially the work Mr Freud has done since arriving at the club, he has added so much!

He compliments AVB well as we still have that 'Character' in the dressing room which some we would lose when Harry left and ultimately that German, organised mentality of defending from the front, something which I think we lacked under Harry.

 

[ultimateloner]

Sloth I would like to hear why you disagree with my view.
My assumptions are wrong?
arugment is inconsistent?
Thanks.

 

[Pringle]

Personally in the last 18 years I can’t remember seeing a more balanced Tottenham side. You have to give a proportion of this credit to AVB.

However, I think it is a team effort at the moment..... Especially the work Mr Freud has done since arriving at the club, he has added so much!

He compliments AVB well as we still have that 'Character' in the dressing room which some we would lose when Harry left and ultimately that German, organised mentality of defending from the front, something which I think we lacked under Harry.

I think thats a bit ott tbh - as no one really knows our best team or even tactic which is best suited to us. He has done well but and it isnt anything against him, but our team last year was more balanced imo with King and Kaboul at the back, Sandro and Modric in the middle and VDV off Ade - now that was a team!!

I am becoming a bigger fan by the day - the win away to Sunderland was a real key game for me. I do think there are bigger tests ahead though, as against last seasons top 7 sides (City, United, Arsenal, Newcastle, Chelsea, Everton) we have 1 win and 5 defeats which isnt good enough.

 

[ItsBoris]

I bet he took her to sexual highs you could only dream of too. Amirite?

He probably prepared a 500 page strategic dossier beforehand, you ain't competing with that!

 

[Capocrimini]

I dont think it is ludicrous to sack for above reasons. I think the one prohibitive factor is the amount of money you have to pay to get rid and then get someone else in. Your 'if HR is still here we will prob b 4th again' is something i agree with and also why we need to sack; we need CL, not just 'around top 4'. I also disagree that loyalty is required for money to be spent; ability is. You can invest in a traitor if they can gurantee a profit, but you can't invest in a loyal loser who would gurantee a loss. I think Levy didn't back HR in Jan12 because he thought Saha/Nelson are sufficient to get us into CL, failure to anticipate spectacular under-achievement thereafter.

I can't agree with you mate, if AVB gets sacked for narrowly missing 4th it would be a mistake. To sack and hire coaches consistently is a risky game, and has only ever worked with rich clubs who can afford to spend big to make drastic squad changes needed for instant impacts. That said I firmly believe in AVB and have faith we will get CL football and some trophies under him over the next few years, consistently!

I can see what your saying, but look at Sir Alex as a example, Man Utd were struggling before he took the reigns, and he didn't have instant success. But they stuck with him and look at what he achieved.

 

[ultimateloner]

I can't agree with you mate, if AVB gets sacked for narrowly missing 4th it would be a mistake. To sack and hire coaches consistently is a risky game, and has only ever worked with rich clubs who can afford to spend big to make drastic squad changes needed for instant impacts. That said I firmly believe in AVB and have faith we will get CL football and some trophies under him over the next few years, consistently!

I can see what your saying, but look at Sir Alex as a example, Man Utd were struggling before he took the reigns, and he didn't have instant success. But they stuck with him and look at what he achieved.

I can see your point but we would have to agree to disagree. The Fergie example is widely used (SP used it too when we argued about ths) but i think he is a unique case so we should not base our analysis on him. Having said that I do agree that the costs involved for a hire+fire culture is high and also the new guy isn't neccesarily better than the old. Hopefully AVB get us CL this year and we dont need to have this discussion.

 

[StartingPrice]

He probably prepared a 500 page strategic dossier beforehand, you ain't competing with that!

The first 489 pages are devoted to how he likes a trio in midfield to keep up constant pressure on the clitoral area, leaving the opposition partner in a vulnerable and confused state, allowing his two ball players either side of his centre-forward to open the opposition partner up to repeated penetrating counter-thrusts on the goal

Not much on defence...apparently he likes his back line to push up to help the midfield, and a 'keeper who comes for crosses

 

[timfrancis]

I think he is the right man for the job, I think with backing he will bring us success. I have this nagging feel though that he will get the sack if we don't get a CL place, with once again a whole summer of turmoil and speculation. I really, really hope that doesn't happen.

I don't think (hope??) this will happen. I have a feeling that he is seen as a long-term appointment, with the brief to mould the club from top to bottom into the shape of CL competitors. NB, this is based purely on a gut feeling, not any great insight on my part.

 

[RichSpur58]

Delighted with AVB. Loving how the whole club is united in tactics, transfers and where we want to be. Love the respect he is showing the fans and the club, and the fact he is getting the very best out of all his players.

 

[Mullers]

I don't think (hope??) this will happen. I have a feeling that he is seen as a long-term appointment, with the brief to mould the club from top to bottom into the shape of CL competitors. NB, this is based purely on a gut feeling, not any great insight on my part.

Now we have just bought Holtby I think this would be less likely to happen although I wouldn't put it past him to sack AVB and appoint Freund as manager.

 

[Spurs1960]

I don't think (hope??) this will happen. I have a feeling that he is seen as a long-term appointment, with the brief to mould the club from top to bottom into the shape of CL competitors. NB, this is based purely on a gut feeling, not any great insight on my part.

T'was widely reported at the time of his appointment that this was the case and to change the mentality of the club to one that expects to play Champions League football every season instead of hopes, he appreciates the importance of the mental side of the game.

His model fitted that of Levy, youth that increases in value rather than the Harry proven experienced PL players model..

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

The funny thing with AVB is that he has actually made us more popular in the eyes of opposition fans.

 

[StartingPrice]

As said at start of season: I don't think AVB will be sacked, even if we miss out on top 4, so long as there are clear signs of improvement in other ways - like finishing the season strongly, looking more and more like a coherent unit, etc. I don't say this because I don't think we will make top 4, because I have always thought we would, and still do.

Now we have just bought Holtby I think this would be less likely to happen although I wouldn't put it past him to sack AVB and appoint Freund as manager.

Mullers, you old contrary bugga, re our misunderstanding earlier: It was UltimateLoner I had this argument with at the start of the season, and not you, as I incorrectly believed. It wasn't that I misunderstood your position, it was that I mistook the poster. Perhaps it is because I have had a flaming argument with both of you (but who haven't I had a flaming argument with? ), or maybe that you both have an <M> in your username Anyway, he draws attention to the debate, himself, above, and it is his contention that he feels that AVB has failed if we don't make top 4, and so should be replaced. I read your post, which said he will be removed if he fails to get top 4, and conflated the two as without clarification they are very similar, and I gog you two confused. But, anyway, my bad

 

[Mullers]

Mullers, you old contrary bugga, re our misunderstanding earlier: It was UltimateLoner I had this argument with at the start of the season, and not you, as I incorrectly believed. It wasn't that I misunderstood your position, it was that I mistook the poster. Perhaps it is because I have had a flaming argument with both of you (but who haven't I had a flaming argument with? ), or maybe that you both have an <M> in your username Anyway, he draws attention to the debate, himself, above, and it is his contention that he feels that AVB has failed if we don't make top 4, and so should be replaced. I read your post, which said he will be removed if he fails to get top 4, and conflated the two as without clarification they are very similar, and I gog you two confused. But, anyway, my bad

No problem mate
Tbh I couldn't remember us having a flaming argument about it, but my memory is sometimes shocking. I strongly disagree with Ultimateloner but I didn't want to get into a debate with him on account of his shocking font colours.

 

[StartingPrice]

No problem mate
Tbh I couldn't remember us having a flaming argument about it, but my memory is sometimes shocking. I strongly disagree with Ultimateloner but I didn't want to get into a debate with him on account of his shocking font colours.

TBF, I don't think me and UL hd a flaming argument - just a standard debate, but the laddie is not for turning

As for the font colours (I'm hoping that's not a euphemism ), shocking, just shocking. There's Bad Taste and then ther eis diseased monkey brain eating zombie creatures

 

[HildoSpur]

I dont think there is a chance AVB will be sacked if we dont get in the top 4, I'm sure he has already proven to Levy and hopefully most of the fans that he is doing a more than capable job at the moment despite the injuries. He has shown enough already imo to be given at least another season in charge, personally I hope he is here for a long time, 5 years minimum. I feel more secure with him as a manager as I did with Harry, although I think Harry did an incredible job - I think that with time AVB could emulate Harry's achievements and perhaps better them.

 

[ibbz]

AVB is the fucking Don Dada!

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Personally in the last 18 years I can’t remember seeing a more balanced Tottenham side. You have to give a proportion of this credit to AVB.

However, I think it is a team effort at the moment..... Especially the work Mr Freud has done since arriving at the club, he has added so much!

He compliments AVB well as we still have that 'Character' in the dressing room which some we would lose when Harry left and ultimately that German, organised mentality of defending from the front, something which I think we lacked under Harry.[/quote

We don't know whether Freund has had any major influence in the manner you are suggesting. It is based on assumption not fact. As a player he was shocking, but good value. He appears to be supportive of the players in terms of the high 5's but i have no idea how advanced he is as a coach.