THST call for club's board to resign in wake of European Super League fiasco

[whitesocks]

Levy fked up - that goes without saying. He'd agree with that as the project flopped.
And he needs to explain why it was so badly prepared.

But that's not why the fans are angry - they seem glad it failed - and I'm mystified why they think they've been shat on.
Those arsenal protests for instances. Wenger told them the european league is coming for years and they built their stadium in preparation. They all went along with it. But now they don't want it!

The chelsea protest were pretty intense too, but are they really worried about the integrity of the game? Seriously. Sporting merit? Really? All their trophies were bought under abramovich.

Kroenke and abramovich have spent plenty on their clubs in recent years. It is not an ownership problem, why these sides haven't excelled. They've been badly managed.

I suggest some spurs fans are angry as Levy sacked their darling poch and the other half are angry as Levy sacked the guy who just maybe could have parked the bus and won a trophy tomorrow. The esl is just a convenient brick to brain him with.

 

[JeremyPaxton]

Ferrari have been looking for a new CEO for ages now and are looking to change tack by focusing their search on heads of luxury lifestyle brands instead of automotive ones like they would have done before. None of this actually changes the ownership, which is 10% owned by the Ferrari family, 30% by a holding company and the rest publicly traded.

That 30% "holding company" (Exor) of Ferrari is owned by... the Agnelli family: the same ones who own Juventus and whose Andrea Agnelli was second behind Perez in pushing for the ESL. Will the next boss of Ferrri happen without the Agnelli's blessing? Will it f**k. Same as the next boss of THFC won't happen without the blessing of our ultimate 30% shareholder. Daniel Levy.

So unless Levy fancies sacking himself, he'll be staying.

 

[Amo]

So unless Levy fancies sacking himself, he'll be staying.

Erm.. That's what "resigning" means.

It's not like THST was demanding he be thrown out by security.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Do you think we were the one club that would cause the dominoes to fall?

I don’t think we have that much influence over the club game personally

Definitely wasn’t us

Could be either Chelski or City but my guess would be Chelsea due to Roman not having British citizenship and not living in the country. The last thing he wants to do is upset the establishment or the natives!

 

[IamSpurtacus]

Definitely wasn’t us

Could be either Chelski or City but my guess would be Chelsea due to Roman not having British citizenship and not living in the country. The last thing he wants to do is upset the establishment or the natives!

think its the two moneybags clubs who don't need the cash from the Champions league...

Also think PSG not committing was significant given their influence over FIFA through the Qatar

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Do you think we were the one club that would cause the dominoes to fall?

I don’t think we have that much influence over the club game personally

I said it's possible, could have been us, could have been another club it might have only taken that. But I'm the same as you, I have no idea.

 

[Metalhead]

True. Once we have that Lady Gaga concert things will look very different

Surely the GnR one will be the clincher?

 

[sausage]

All it took was one to withdraw and the the rest followed.

I think that was of little significance - the public reaction caused it. If the public were fine with it, and someone like City or Chelsea backed out, I very much doubt others would have on that basis.

 

[jimbo]

Just to say that if you don’t agree with the Trusts position on things, join and influence them, it’s a fully democratic organisation, everyone gets a voice. Run for the board if you feel like you could do a better job. Associate membership is free, full membership just £10 a year. Yeah, they don’t have much power but they have still managed to get some concessions to fans and giving in to apathy isn’t going to do much.
Obviously if you’re happy with the ticket prices, allocations, away match costs and feel that anything Levy decides for our future is in our best interests then carry on as you are.

 

[PLTuck]

The defeatism is staggering. I just can't fathom it.

Oh well thats just the way it is. Better bend over and suck it up like good boys.

FUCK. THAT.

 

[rez9000]

This is a good distillation of what modern capitalism seems to have wrought. It's like an abusive relationship where the abused clings to the idea that the abuser is bad, but could be worse, so I'll stick with it.

And I'm not suggesting capitalism isn't good when properly regulated.

Just that these guys are all replaceable with better people. Like footballers, there's an endless supply of potential executive leaders out there. Ones that could make a clear statement regarding good ethics. People with better judgement, on football, on our club's direction, and on football's direction as a monumental commercial success because of its competitiveness and risk. Not despite that good merit-based stuff.

It's a bit of a dark world when lots of folks on here throw their hands up and say the only alternatives to Levy are petro-slave-state overlords.

And the likes of Perez at madrid and equivalents at Barca and Juve have turned their clubs into economic basket cases. That doesn't scream "let's follow their lead" to me. This kind of "move fast and break things" idolatry can stop whenever you choose. There are better options going forward.

Maybe not even all that modern. Robert Trussell told us the same 100 years ago.

 

[Shadydan]

Levy fked up - that goes without saying. He'd agree with that as the project flopped.
And he needs to explain why it was so badly prepared.

But that's not why the fans are angry - they seem glad it failed - and I'm mystified why they think they've been shat on.
Those arsenal protests for instances. Wenger told them the european league is coming for years and they built their stadium in preparation. They all went along with it. But now they don't want it!

The chelsea protest were pretty intense too, but are they really worried about the integrity of the game? Seriously. Sporting merit? Really? All their trophies were bought under abramovich.

Kroenke and abramovich have spent plenty on their clubs in recent years. It is not an ownership problem, why these sides haven't excelled. They've been badly managed.

I suggest some spurs fans are angry as Levy sacked their darling poch and the other half are angry as Levy sacked the guy who just maybe could have parked the bus and won a trophy tomorrow. The esl is just a convenient brick to brain him with.

There's an incredible amount of truth in this.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

There's an incredible amount of truth in this.

Not to mention a liberal sprinkling of bollocks. Unless of course people seriously believe that anyone wanting Levy out is either harbouring a Pochettino grudge or wants revenge for sacking Mourinho. Just those reasons? OK then.

Bah

 

[Dennism]

Football didn't start in 2010 dude. Show a little respect. On historical "bigliness", Forest, Villa and Everton should have been in before Chelsea and City, and arguably us.

I respect Forest and Villa. However, my second favourite team is Watford, who yesterday achieved a brilliant and well deserved promotion. During their last period in the Premier League they were enjoying great success under Marco Silva. That is until ‘people’s club’ and ’defenders of fairness’ Everton illegally tapped up Silva to become their manager. From that point on Silva and our star player Richarlison lost interest and things went swiftly downhill. Eventually Everton appointed Silva after an out of court settlement to avoid them facing charges for their illegal behaviour. Richarlison and later on Doucoure were later poached by Everton. So no, the simpering hypocrites Everton are not worthy of my respect.

 

[Trix]

Football didn't start in 2010 dude. Show a little respect. On historical "bigliness", Forest, Villa and Everton should have been in before Chelsea and City, and arguably us.

Yeah but none of this is based on past history. It's been designed purely around infrastructure and drawing as big an audience as possible. No one in Asia is going to e interested in watching Forrest v Villa at a run down old stadium. 2 clubs that have been up and down the divisions for the last decade. I'd wager both clubs pale into significance as far as younger world wide support. That is the money they are trying to attract as that is sustainable income. I completely understand why these clubs don't want the governing bodies making the money they do off their backs. It's stink for the longest time tbh. It was set up badly, and poorly executed but a change is needed, and that can't be based around teams that were mostly relevant 20+ years ago. The closed shop was bs, and should never been a thing. The rest I could easily get on board with.

 

[Shadydan]

Not to mention a liberal sprinkling of bollocks. Unless of course people seriously believe that anyone wanting Levy out is either harbouring a Pochettino grudge or wants revenge for sacking Mourinho. Just those reasons? OK then.

Bah

Interesting that's the only part you're referring to in his post and when I say interesting I mean completely stupid.

 

[MassadaTom]

Yeah but none of this is based on past history. It's been designed purely around infrastructure and drawing as big an audience as possible. No one in Asia is going to e interested in watching Forrest v Villa at a run down old stadium. 2 clubs that have been up and down the divisions for the last decade. I'd wager both clubs pale into significance as far as younger world wide support. That is the money they are trying to attract as that is sustainable income. I completely understand why these clubs don't want the governing bodies making the money they do off their backs. It's stink for the longest time tbh. It was set up badly, and poorly executed but a change is needed, and that can't be based around teams that were mostly relevant 20+ years ago. The closed shop was bs, and should never been a thing. The rest I could easily get on board with.

I think that all outrage obfuscates main problem for “dirty 12” -why would you organise event that you will not be a part of. Super League does not have second division you are in or you are completely out.
You could decouple money from performance so you are in for money but you playing in it based on merit thou that would look even worse.
They did not had to make it close to make it close anyway.They could start it As Audi cup tournament and after it succes they could position it as permanent feature, finally they could start as FIFA world club competition on 2 years cycle.
So many ways to sell this to public ....
They fak it up.

 

[MassadaTom]

Not to mention a liberal sprinkling of bollocks. Unless of course people seriously believe that anyone wanting Levy out is either harbouring a Pochettino grudge or wants revenge for sacking Mourinho. Just those reasons? OK then.

Bah

I seriously believe that Brexit and Trump happened because ppl are xenophobic and racist. Obviously you could point to REAL issues that both where trying to address.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Interesting that's the only part you're referring to in his post and when I say interesting I mean completely stupid.

Well, originally I said much more, but edited it out because I didn't want to offend but seeing as i'm completely stupid, lets revisit it shall we?

Levy fked up - that goes without saying. He'd agree with that as the project flopped.
And he needs to explain why it was so badly prepared.

Nothing wrong there.

But that's not why the fans are angry - they seem glad it failed - and I'm mystified why they think they've been shat on.
Those arsenal protests for instances. Wenger told them the european league is coming for years and they built their stadium in preparation. They all went along with it. But now they don't want it!
It's not wanting it that's the issue, the form it has taken and how the clubs went about getting it has been a massive factor, wanting it? Meh, so what?

The chelsea protest were pretty intense too, but are they really worried about the integrity of the game? Seriously. Sporting merit? Really? All their trophies were bought under abramovich.
So? What's that got to do with anything? Clubs have bought their way to success since the year dot. People don't like it, that's understandable but that doesn't exclude fans for not liking this idea

Kroenke and abramovich have spent plenty on their clubs in recent years. It is not an ownership problem, why these sides haven't excelled. They've been badly managed.
Abramovich's team haven't excelled? Multiple FA Cups, PL titles and a CL win. Not excelled? OK. Agreed about Arsenal though

I suggest some spurs fans are angry as Levy sacked their darling poch and the other half are angry as Levy sacked the guy who just maybe could have parked the bus and won a trophy tomorrow. The esl is just a convenient brick to brain him with.
Already addressed, pure rubbish.

So yeah, your comment that there's an 'incredible amount of truth in this' was blatantly fucking stupid, seeing as that's your benchmark.

No offence whitesocks.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I seriously believe that Brexit and Trump happened because ppl are xenophobic and racist. Obviously you could point to REAL issues that both where trying to address.

Yeah OK