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THST call for club's board to resign in wake of European Super League fiasco

PLTuck

Eternal Optimist
Aug 22, 2006
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Yeah but none of this is based on past history. It's been designed purely around infrastructure and drawing as big an audience as possible. No one in Asia is going to e interested in watching Forrest v Villa at a run down old stadium. 2 clubs that have been up and down the divisions for the last decade. I'd wager both clubs pale into significance as far as younger world wide support. That is the money they are trying to attract as that is sustainable income. I completely understand why these clubs don't want the governing bodies making the money they do off their backs. It's stink for the longest time tbh. It was set up badly, and poorly executed but a change is needed, and that can't be based around teams that were mostly relevant 20+ years ago. The closed shop was bs, and should never been a thing. The rest I could easily get on board with.

Yeah I agree, it was just the "nothing club" comment regarding Everton I thought was a bit daft, putting it politely.

The problem for me (apart from the closed shop bs) is that this cartel were targetting kids who have zero interest in football outside perhaps playing FIFA and scoring every goal by dribbling round 6 players with a dozen stepovers. When they start watching Real vs Juve for the 3rd time in a season and realise that in reality it doesnt work like that they'd soon bugger off again.

I'm still incredulous with rage that "legacy" supporters are thought of so dismissively.
 

Archibald&Crooks

Aegina Expat
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Feb 1, 2005
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I'm still incredulous with rage that "legacy" supporters are thought of so dismissively.
It completely exposes what a lot of people in high ranking positions, if not owners of football clubs see us as. Cash cows, to be milked and milked and milked until there's no more milk to be had. I think far too many of us buy into the lip service they offer up.
 

whitesocks

The past means nothing. This is a message for life
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Well, originally I said much more, but edited it out because I didn't want to offend but seeing as i'm completely stupid, lets revisit it shall we?


So yeah, your comment that there's an 'incredible amount of truth in this' was blatantly fucking stupid, seeing as that's your benchmark.

No offence whitesocks.
I don't tend to revisit my vomit. If I think a viewpoint has been missed that has value, then I will try to balance the conversation in a considered way. It probably won't be popular or even turn out to be 'right' but is part of the bigger picture as I see it.
Counter views are important and for instance I appreciate your anti-Levy views when everyone else has been doing cartwheels these last few years.

Anyway I'm happy with my post. I'm sure I could qualify some of the details and we'd be more in agreement, but I stand by my general theme that these protests have been whipped up by sky (afraid that their prem league partner could be hobbled). and these fans have little interest in sporting integrity, wet nights in stoke or any of the other bollocks. These entitled fans' main gripe is their lack of trophies in recent years (even this season alone.)

I'm no fan of the esl by the way. Ownership of clubs used to be properly regulated. Gate money was shared. Lower league matches were often included on motd and the big match. Kids could afford to go to games. All this has been taken by the prem league. The esl will make all these things worse.
 

JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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this 50 plus 1 simply cannot happen to a club with the value of ours.

Let’s say Spurs is worth £2.5billion. for this to happen the seller sells to a new owner/consortium who agreed to buy 49% at £1.24billion, leaving us fans to find £1.26 billion! Never going to happen.

if the govt brought this in today, they could only bring it in as a ‘going forward’ and it would still require the fans to put up their money WHEN the club is ever resold.


What's in it for levya nd enic if they grow the club to a point where the value is more than anyone is willing to pay and levy and enic willing to accept?

My point is... The ceiling has now been reached, the value isn't going to get much higher without investing... But if we do invest and we grow and grow, we will get to a value that no one is willing to pay.
 

Ashley1974

reading between the lines
Aug 31, 2012
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What's in it for levya nd enic if they grow the club to a point where the value is more than anyone is willing to pay and levy and enic willing to accept?

My point is... The ceiling has now been reached, the value isn't going to get much higher without investing... But if we do invest and we grow and grow, we will get to a value that no one is willing to pay.

I think your missing the key point I’m making mate. Increasing the value is worth it to Levy, as they plan to sell to another 100% owner.

All I’m pointing out is that fans can not afford to buy 51% of Spurs when it is sold - it is worth too much.

You’d need 100,000 fans to each fork out £1000 for a £1billion. And you’re only getting a 0.00001% share each (someone check my maths ?)
 
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