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Well, if you win the PL, you also finish top 4 ...
Is that right? He's taken us to 3 semis and a final?
Top 4 ultimately is so we can win more trophies otherwise top 4 is pointless so to me question is trophy or more trophies, I would obviously chose more trophies but that requires actually investing all the extra money from CL in the team, I expect to see that happening clearly from this summer, no more property projects, in Pochs words today in reference to completing infrastructure "And in the moment you get all this ready, that can no longer be an excuse" I expect no more PR BS from this summer on.
So what you’re saying is the last three seasons we’ve had:It pisses me off that people make out this is a choice, because it shields poch from a bigger problem
Poch's record in the cup competitions knockout stages has been terrible
BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS WIN PERCENTAGE????It pisses me off that people make out this is a choice, because it shields poch from a bigger problem
Poch's record in the cup competitions knockout stages has been terrible
Looking at his record from since he took over:
2015 League Cup -
3rd - vs Nottingham Forest - W
4th - vs Brighton - W
5th - vs Newcastle - W
SF - vs Sheffield Utd - W
F - vs Chelsea - L
2015 FA Cup
3rd - vs Burnley - W after replay
4th - vs Leicester - L
2015 Europa League
R32 - Fiorentina - L
2016 League Cup -
3rd - vs Arsenal - L
2016 FA Cup
3rd - vs Leicester - W after replay
4th - vs Colchester - W
5th - vs Palace - L
2016 Europa League
R32 - Fiorentina - W
R16 - Dortmund - L
2017 League Cup -
3rd - vs Gillingham - W
4th - vs Liverpool - L
2017 FA Cup
3rd - vs Villa - W
4th - vs Wycombe - W
5th - vs Fulham - W
QF - vs Millwall - W
SF - vs Chelsea - L
2017 Europa League
R32 - Gent - L
2018 League Cup -
3rd - vs Barnsley - W
4th - vs West Ham - L
2018 FA Cup
3rd - vs Wimbledon - W
4th - vs Newport - W after replay
5th - vs Rochdale - W after replay
QF - vs Swansea - W
SF - vs Manchester United - L
2018 Champions League
R16 - Juventus - L
2019 League Cup -
3rd - vs Watford - W
4th - vs West Ham - W
5th - vs Arsenal - W
SF - vs Chelsea - L on pens
2019 FA Cup
3rd - vs Palace - L
2019 Champions League
R16 - Dortmund - TBC
This statement as hard as it is for some people can be true:
Poch has overachieved in the league with us but he has underachieved in the cup competitions
The only decent competition he has beaten in a knockout stage is Arsenal this season, even then they are a weaker team overall imo and Leicester in 2016
And beaten only Arsenal of note in that time. Let’s call a spade a spade, we’ve not been very good at all. Why is that so difficult to just accept?Is that right? He's taken us to 3 semis and a final?
Are you a glass half empty typeBUT WHAT ABOUT HIS WIN PERCENTAGE????
And beaten only Arsenal of note in that time. Let’s call a spade a spade, we’ve not been very good at all. Why is that so difficult to just accept?
I’m a realistic type. What I’m not going to do is be blinded by my bias and love for the club, and excuse every shortcoming with a load of nonsense about how we’re at so big of a disadvantage to everyone else.Are you a glass half empty type
But I think no CL will make it harder to keep players and mean we have to transition a larger portion of the squad.No it wouldn't, I think we're currently ahead of schedule and I think the board are smart enough to know there are going to be times when we don't qualify for the CL. Nothing spectacular has happened in terms of buying players since we've been in the CL. We're going to continue buying low cost players for sometime yet, CL or not.
Thats a problem because he gets constantly beaten by teams a level below us or similar to us. Only beating one team that has been on a similar level in arsenal, even arsenal could be described as a level belowSo what you’re saying is the last three seasons we’ve had:
- 2 x FA Cup semi finals (plus LC semi this year)
- 3 x qualifying for Champions league
And this is a problem because....
Well considering we face a lot of Non-PL teams, you would hope that it isI wish Poch took the league as seriously as he takes the Cup competitions.
Much higher win percentage in Domestic Cups than the league...