Tottenham hand transfers control to manager Mauricio Pochettino...

[NEVILLEB]

This is not a privilege that should have to be won.

Ridiculous

 

[spurs9]

Do you know who Ismail Azzaoui, Musa Yahaya and Rares Lazar are?

Some of Baldini's recent 'ones for the future' signings.

He's definitely still active in the field.

I was under the impression Rares Lazar just had a trial but didn't sign. Do you know for a fact he did? On of the regular posters on here spoke to one of our academy players who had not heard of him and was not aware of a Romanian in the academy. They player he spoke to is just 1 year older, so you would have thought they would have crossed paths at some point if Lazar had joined.

 

[yankspurs]

I was under the impression Rares Lazar just had a trial but didn't sign. Do you know for a fact he did? On of the regular posters on here spoke to one of our academy players who had not heard of him and was not aware of a Romanian in the academy. They player he spoke to is just 1 year older, so you would have thought they would have crossed paths at some point if Lazar had joined.

I dont think he signed, but who's to say that he won't? Could be another Yahaya situation. Never know

 

[spurs9]

I dont think he signed, but who's to say that he won't? Could be another Yahaya situation. Never know

True, he didn't turn 16 until March according to transfermarkt.com, so wouldn't have been able to join until then. It could be that he joins in the summer I suppose.

That being said, the academy player knew Yahaya and had trained with him (even though he hasn't officially joined), so it should be the same with Lazar, especially since his old team in Romania no longer exists.

 

[TH1239]

It doesn't matter whether Pochettino gets final say in whether a transfer should be completed or not. What matters is whether Daniel Levy is prepared to deficit spend to purchase players Pochettino specifically wants. Let's say Poch wants Schneiderlin, Rodriguez, Moreno, Bacca, Depay. If every single one of those players is deemed too expensive by Levy (which they will be), then what exactly will we do then? Mitchell suggests far cheaper alternatives that Poch either begrudgingly accepts, or Poch gets nothing?

No matter what Poch says, he knows his job is on the line and he will be the one taking the fall with another 7th place finish next season. He will ultimately take whatever players are given to him, likely bit his upper lip, and when things fail, he'll say he didn't want these players. We've seen it before, and it is the most likely scenario if Levy doesn't back him this summer by spending heavily to purchase those players he desperately wants.

 

[alexis]

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Mitchell was Baldini's idea mate.

Paper talk, baldini stinks of being old school and after making so many fk ups (and back handers ) suggested mitchell as his strategy. Everyone had heard of Southamptons youth success and analytics doesn't take a genius to bring in those responsible. I know i am being cynical here but he fkd Roma royally on their scouting and was going to get the bullet. We did them a favour, baldinis useless and perpetuating the "he bought mitchell in" and "its for his contacts" is good for levy to deflect from another shit recruit, don't make the man a genius

 

[cliff jones]

In what other business would you give the employee with the least secure job control of major spending decisions?

what other business is like football then?

 

[cliff jones]

a typical nothing article from Lewis, fabricated from the presser last week when Poch took the opportunity to say we need a big and early summer, implying at least in my interpretation he got neither last time round. And of course we can tell from his subsequent team selections that only Dier makes his best XI.

As I recall, Poch simply responded affirmatively to a question as to whether or not he can veto potential acquisitions? The phrase the final say depends on the process, doesn't it? Might be different each time. The blokes upstairs find out we can deal VDV for a fee and wages Levy will sanction, then Harry said yeah alright then, hes triffic. Or Harry says Nelsen, good old pro, great in the dressing room, bound to be cheap, any chance Danny Boy? Danny says alright then, if you stop publicly courting the England job.

We already have it on record from the Boards meet with the Trust that Mitchell is mainly identifying younger players at fees less than 15mill, and we can reasonably expect Poch to like most of the recommendations.

Hopefully then there's enough in the kitty from the sale of Lloris to get three in.

 

[ItsBoris]

In what other business would you give the employee with the least secure job control of major spending decisions?

Isn't that pretty much the case with most managers in most businesses? The manager usually gets control of the spending within a certain budget and they get the credit or blame for what follows.

 

[nidge]

Wonder if we've got our own version of Southampton's Black Box yet?

 

[NEVILLEB]

The only person to ever stand up to Levy about transfers was Redknapp and we know that will only ever be tolerated for so long before the axe comes out.

We're screwed until his fingers are prised off the controls.

 

[nidge]

The only person to ever stand up to Levy about transfers was Redknapp and we know that will only ever be tolerated for so long before the axe comes out.

We're screwed until his fingers are prised off the controls.

That won't happen until Uncle Joe sells up.

 

[SHaRD]

Mitchell was Baldini's idea mate.

Indeed.

Baldini's big priority over the last 6 months has been to rebuild the scouting infrastructure than disappeared after Comolli left in 2008.

Levy and Redknapp just used agents, now we are re-establishing our own internal resource to make objective decisions.

 

[SHaRD]

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I was under the impression Rares Lazar just had a trial but didn't sign. Do you know for a fact he did? On of the regular posters on here spoke to one of our academy players who had not heard of him and was not aware of a Romanian in the academy. They player he spoke to is just 1 year older, so you would have thought they would have crossed paths at some point if Lazar had joined.

My understanding is that because Lazar wasn't 16 at the start of the season, he couldn't sign a pro deal. He'll become a 1st year next season. This is the same with Yahaya. Azzaoui is a year older, so has been featuring for the academy side.

 

[SHaRD]

Wonder if we've got our own version of Southampton's Black Box yet?

It will probably take Mitchell a while to re-write (and hopefully improve) the algorithms, as Southampton presumable own the IP of the black box.

 

[Mullers]

On the subject you were putting forward, AVB is talking cobblers. But Levy of course will have made mistakes, we all do.

If Spurs are bidding against the likes of Chelsea for the Oscar's of this would, there will only ever be one winner, AVB saying he was "let down" beggars belief.

If you bid against Chelsea of course you won't get him but if you do the deal before Chelsea are alerted you have every chance and that is what Levy does not do and it is why Poch said we must punch before the opponent.

 

[Mullers]

Levy obviously gave him some waffle in the interview, for that he is partly to blame, but make no mistake that AVB had been around football a while, and the PL years ago with the Chavs, we were hardly known for spending big on individuals.

Levy gave him the challenge of getting champions league football, that is very hard to do without getting quality players in. There is no point in lying to the head coach because in the end the situation just blows up in everyone's faces.

 

[jezz]

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Paper talk, baldini stinks of being old school and after making so many fk ups (and back handers ) suggested mitchell as his strategy. Everyone had heard of Southamptons youth success and analytics doesn't take a genius to bring in those responsible. I know i am being cynical here but he fkd Roma royally on their scouting and was going to get the bullet. We did them a favour, baldinis useless and perpetuating the "he bought mitchell in" and "its for his contacts" is good for levy to deflect from another shit recruit, don't make the man a genius

Trix posted this about baldini back in March on coys, it's what I've always thought his role at the club is.

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It's worth remembering Baldini isn't and never has been a DOF, responsible for identifying the playing staff, although I am sure he did have an influence in both Lamela and Vlad as it was well known at the time they were both on the Roma radar aswell. Every player we bought in that summer though came with big reputations, as all of them had been very successful at their previous clubs. The issue is/was that some of them just don't seem to have adapted to the Prem. This is exactly the reason Mitchell(who Baldini pushed for) was brought in. His role is to do all the analytical ground work to ensure those we buy have a greater chance of succeeding for us. He will of course still be part of the transfer process, but we now have a team in place to work together to find our targets. Never gets mentioned but he has played a key role in trying to turn the club around, and his role in trying to change the entire philosophy of the club from the ground up is significant.



Our amazing lack of injuries for instance is not just down to MP's training regime. Since Baldini's arrival there has been an overhaul of dietary and medical procedures. Our youth sides all follow the same regimes, rules and regulations as the seniors and the amount of tournament football they are playing is also in large down to Baldini. You mention Lamela and Vlad, but stealing Dier on the cheap was also him and his extensive list of contacts.



I think the main issue with Baldini is people don't understand his role at the club( I don't really know all he does). They automatically see him as a DOF and assume he does the buying and selling ala Comolli but his role at the club is technical director and is actually very very different."

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Wonder if we've got our own version of Southampton's Black Box yet?

It will probably take Mitchell a while to re-write (and hopefully improve) the algorithms, as Southampton presumable own the IP of the black box.

The actual black box is not difficult. That's simply creating a mini-cinema-slash-meeting room to review all the findings, both about present squad & new targets. What is interesting is how the data/findings is/are being processed before it's ready for review in the "black box".

 

[SHaRD]

The actual black box is not difficult. That's simply creating a mini-cinema-slash-meeting room to review all the findings, both about present squad & new targets. What is interesting is how the data/findings is/are being processed before it's ready for review in the "black box".

The black box was the name of his Football Manager-esque algorithm isn't it?

I.e. in terms of a black box being 'a system which can be viewed in terms of its inputs and outputs without any knowledge of its internal workings'.

Request a high energy LWF, the black box system does it's enigma machine whirling, and out pops 4 names etc.