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Vincent Janssen signs for Spurs!

yido_number1

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His record shows a guy who has stepped up from the Dutch second tier, having scoring consistently, getting a move to the Eredivisie, finishing top scorer in his first season. Stepped up to international stage, 3 goals in 5 appearances. No disputing that if you put him on the pitch and put the ball to him, he scores. Not so flash on the ball as some would like, but appears keen, hard working, and ambitious to be better, Pochettino favoured traits, and above all else, lethal infront of goal. He's the type of striker I think we need, a guy who will break the stubborn resistance of the typical draws against the likes of Everton, WBA etc.

I think Batshuayi is off to Juve. It's either Janssen or Sanabria, and right now Janssen is probably a bit more ready to hit the ground running. I'd hope this could be done quick so he can get a full preseason to get up to speed.

Plenty of media coverage that we're still in for Sanabria too, but getting both was dismissed by some ITK. Interesting to see who the rumoured second forward is. Vazquez has had media coverage.

Where did you see the second forward part (Interested, not questioning)?
 

BuckeyeSpurs11

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His record shows a guy who has stepped up from the Dutch second tier, having scoring consistently, getting a move to the Eredivisie, finishing top scorer in his first season. Stepped up to international stage, 3 goals in 5 appearances. No disputing that if you put him on the pitch and put the ball to him, he scores. Not so flash on the ball as some would like, but appears keen, hard working, and ambitious to be better, Pochettino favoured traits, and above all else, lethal infront of goal. He's the type of striker I think we need, a guy who will break the stubborn resistance of the typical draws against the likes of Everton, WBA etc.

I think Batshuayi is off to Juve. It's either Janssen or Sanabria, and right now Janssen is probably a bit more ready to hit the ground running. I'd hope this could be done quick so he can get a full preseason to get up to speed.

Plenty of media coverage that we're still in for Sanabria too, but getting both was dismissed by some ITK. Interesting to see who the rumoured second forward is. Vazquez has had media coverage.

Agree w/ SpurredOn that Janssen is a better fit. People are questioning his ability. The guy has came through the highly regarded Feyenoord youth system, done well enough at Almere (cant claim to know his record there), led the Eredivisie in goals and in my opinion, to erase some doubts about strength of Eredivisie, has a 3 in 5 international goal scoring record--all after this past season. By the way, he was 8 goals in 10 games for the U-21 Dutch team which considering Dutch youth development, isn't a BS team. He is similar to Kane but I think more of an instinctual no.9 than Harry. Harry is working extremely hard to resist the urge to drift deeper and vacate the space up front sometimes when he is isolated while Janssen plays more of a target role in that situation. Not saying he's better than Harry at all but just pointing to that one facet of their game. Not to mention, hes a 21 year old with reportedly a great work ethic and a ton of untapped potential still. Batshuayi is a better athlete but not as technically refined as Janssen. I wouldn't be upset if we went with Michy over Janssen, I just wouldnt agree with it.
 
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Agree w/ SpurredOn that Janssen is a better fit. People are questioning his ability. The guy has came through the highly regarded Feyenoord youth system, done well enough at Almere (cant claim to know his record there), led the Eredivisie in goals and in my opinion, to erase some doubts about strength of Eredivisie, has a 3 in 5 international goal scoring record--all after this past season. By the way, he was 8 goals in 10 games for the U-21 Dutch team which considering Dutch youth development, isn't a BS team. He is similar to Kane but I think more of an instinctual no.9 than Harry. Harry is working extremely hard to resist the urge to drift deeper and vacate the space up front sometimes when he is isolated while Janssen plays more of a target role in that situation. Not saying he's better than Harry at all but just pointing to that one facet of their game. Not to mention, hes a 21 year old with reportedly a great work ethic and a ton of untapped potential still. Batshuayi is a better athlete but not as technically refined as Janssen. I wouldn't be upset if we went with Michy over Janssen, I just wouldnt agree with it.

agree, i thinkJansen seems to be a fit that Poch and Mitchell look for, i think he would be a very good addition. everyone is blinded by big names or big price tags and the hype that is created by the media! He could well prove to be a very very useful addition both on and off the pitch.
 

GetSpurredOn

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I think Batshuayi is probably more dynamic, capable of moments of explosive inspiration that could unlock a team. However, Janssen strikes me as one of these Huntelaar type forwards, not flashy, but just ultra consistant goal scorer. He'll hit the target more times than he misses, and work the keeper relentlessly. Watch his highlight reels, left foot or right foot, the shots are placed on target with venom, doesn't worry too much about shifting to a favoured foot. Appears a hard worker, who has openly stated his desire to join and readily accepts the challenge of competing with Kane. Attitude seems spot on in line with the type of players Poch favours.
Have to agree, of we get Batshuayi I won't be disappointed, but ultimately I feel Janssen will go on to be a relentless goalscoring success wherever he ends up, so for what appears to be a very reasonable fee in today's market, why not us. The bidding war for Batshuayi is on, we'd have to go to £30m I reckon. The longer that war goes on, the more risk AZ will see that and jack up Janssen's price accordingly. Let's just wade in and get it done, get organised ahead of preseason.
 

fatpiranha

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I've watched all the linked striker options now and have come to the conclusion that Janssen looks like the best fit. The fact that he is also one of the cheapest options is a nice bonus. I'd be happy with this signing.
 

scat1620

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Just watched a video of all of his 2015/16 goals - first time I've seen anything of him at all. He certainly looks deadly inside the penalty box, as accurate as the best strikers... but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't worried that every single goal of his was scored from within the 18-yard box in the video I saw. Maybe it's still the residual PTSD from having to endure Soldado stink the Lane out every week, but I'm concerned that precisely none of those goals came out of the blue from long range. I don't think we're a team that specialises in making great chances for our strikers in the penalty area, and I don't see this getting any easier for us next season as many teams will sit back and try to defend against us as a respected CL-qualified outfit in 2016/17. Therefore I think it's crucial for us to get a striker who is unpredictable and/or a threat from distance to add to our squad this summer. If Kane is being shut out in the area by a team camping in their own box then he can pick it up from deep and spank it in from 25-30 yards - I didn't see anything from Janssen to suggest that he could do that and it's nagging at me.

If Pochettino does want him and isn't being fobbed off with his preferred targets with a cheaper option then he's certainly earned the right to our trust in his judgement, and so I'm not saying that I'm dead against the Janssen signing. But I think at this stage if we do end up signing for him it will be more my trust in Pochettino that gives me hope for this transfer rather than my own initial impression of Janssen and how he might fit in our team.
 

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Just watched a video of all of his 2015/16 goals - first time I've seen anything of him at all. He certainly looks deadly inside the penalty box, as accurate as the best strikers... but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't worried that every single goal of his was scored from within the 18-yard box in the video I saw. Maybe it's still the residual PTSD from having to endure Soldado stink the Lane out every week, but I'm concerned that precisely none of those goals came out of the blue from long range. I don't think we're a team that specialises in making great chances for our strikers in the penalty area, and I don't see this getting any easier for us next season as many teams will sit back and try to defend against us as a respected CL-qualified outfit in 2016/17. Therefore I think it's crucial for us to get a striker who is unpredictable and/or a threat from distance to add to our squad this summer. If Kane is being shut out in the area by a team camping in their own box then he can pick it up from deep and spank it in from 25-30 yards - I didn't see anything from Janssen to suggest that he could do that and it's nagging at me.

If Pochettino does want him and isn't being fobbed off with his preferred targets with a cheaper option then he's certainly earned the right to our trust in his judgement, and so I'm not saying that I'm dead against the Janssen signing. But I think at this stage if we do end up signing for him it will be more my trust in Pochettino that gives me hope for this transfer rather than my own initial impression of Janssen and how he might fit in our team.
Very interesting observations. I will assure you that when you see him in a full match you would be a tad concerned.
 

THFCSPURS19

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If Kane is being shut out in the area by a team camping in their own box then he can pick it up from deep and spank it in from 25-30 yards.

If I'm being honest, I can't recall too many occasions where this has actually happened
 

scat1620

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If I'm being honest, I can't recall too many occasions where this has actually happened
All the more reason why we need someone who can?

To be fair, I'd be just as happy if that job was being done by an attacking midfielder, a la Bale or Mahrez. It's what I hoped Son would bring to the squad this year, but he'd have to improve on this front from last season to convince me that he could be that magician to unlock a stubborn defence from range. Eriksen used to be our man for this, but what he's gained in all-round playmaking last year he seems to have lost in goal-threat. [strop]Why can't we just have someone who can do it all?[/strop]
 

THFCSPURS19

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All the more reason why we need someone who can?
I'm not sure any of the STs we have been linked with are particularly strong at long-shots- and, in my opinion, I don't think it's an attribute that we should specifically look for in a player.

As you said, Son was known for his long-range ability in Germany, but he seems to have forgotten how to take a long shot (bar vs Leicester in the FA Cup).
 

scat1620

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I'm not sure any of the STs we have been linked with are particularly strong at long-shots- and, in my opinion, I don't think it's an attribute that we should specifically look for in a player.

As you said, Son was known for his long-range ability in Germany, but he seems to have forgotten how to take a long shot (bar vs Leicester in the FA Cup).
Disagree with you on the bolded bit, I think we're crying out for either a long-range goalscorer and/or an unpredictable tricks merchant in our side. Just someone who can offer a different way to score when our [usually successful] Plan A isn't coming off. I'd accept that that player doesn't necessarily have to be a striker though, and if we got someone like that then I'd instantaneously feel loads better about the idea of signing Janssen.

(All of which is just to say PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL because I think he'd be the best fun to watch. And because reasons.)
 

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If I'm being honest, I can't recall too many occasions where this has actually happened
All the more reason why we need someone who can?

To be fair, I'd be just as happy if that job was being done by an attacking midfielder, a la Bale or Mahrez. It's what I hoped Son would bring to the squad this year, but he'd have to improve on this front from last season to convince me that he could be that magician to unlock a stubborn defence from range. Eriksen used to be our man for this, but what he's gained in all-round playmaking last year he seems to have lost in goal-threat. [strop]Why can't we just have someone who can do it all?[/strop]
We scored the 4th most goals (10) from outside the box last season. Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea scored more, but to put into perspective, Leicester, Arsenal & Man Utd were 19th, 17th and 16th in the goals from outside the box chart.

We were actually 3rd for the goals scored inside the area stat and the top 4 in that stat was the same as the top 4 in the league table (and in the same order).

Personally, I think movement, finishing inside the box and creating clear cut chances are the areas we most need to improve.
 

THFCSPURS19

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(All of which is just to say PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL PLEASE SIGN SOFIANE BOUFAL because I think he'd be the best fun to watch. And because reasons.)
Now that I agree with.
 

Bus-Conductor

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We scored the 4th most goals (10) from outside the box last season. Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea scored more, but to put into perspective, Leicester, Arsenal & Man Utd were 19th, 17th and 16th in the goals from outside the box chart.

We were actually 3rd for the goals scored inside the area stat and the top 4 in that stat was the same as the top 4 in the league table (and in the same order).

Personally, I think movement, finishing inside the box and creating clear cut chances are the areas we most need to improve.


I agreed specifically with the need to create clear cut chances bit, but I also think with players like Eriksen, Alli & Kane a striker who's on his toes in the box wouldn't hurt either, as long as it's not a Defoe/Berahino/Bent type whose game entirely revolves around hanging off the shoulder of the last man, waiting for the perfect through ball and doing fuck all else - and Batshuayi & Lacazette definitely have more about them than that and Janssen seems to have from the limited amount I've seen. I like that he's two footed, gets on the end of headers in the box, including going in where it hurts and his hold up play looks like it can be developed but the raw ingredients seem to be there, unless someone who has seen loads of him tells us different.
 

Strikeb4ck

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Just watched a video of all of his 2015/16 goals - first time I've seen anything of him at all. He certainly looks deadly inside the penalty box, as accurate as the best strikers... but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't worried that every single goal of his was scored from within the 18-yard box in the video I saw. Maybe it's still the residual PTSD from having to endure Soldado stink the Lane out every week, but I'm concerned that precisely none of those goals came out of the blue from long range. I don't think we're a team that specialises in making great chances for our strikers in the penalty area, and I don't see this getting any easier for us next season as many teams will sit back and try to defend against us as a respected CL-qualified outfit in 2016/17. Therefore I think it's crucial for us to get a striker who is unpredictable and/or a threat from distance to add to our squad this summer. If Kane is being shut out in the area by a team camping in their own box then he can pick it up from deep and spank it in from 25-30 yards - I didn't see anything from Janssen to suggest that he could do that and it's nagging at me.

If Pochettino does want him and isn't being fobbed off with his preferred targets with a cheaper option then he's certainly earned the right to our trust in his judgement, and so I'm not saying that I'm dead against the Janssen signing. But I think at this stage if we do end up signing for him it will be more my trust in Pochettino that gives me hope for this transfer rather than my own initial impression of Janssen and how he might fit in our team.
It's is absolutely imperative for us to sign a winger/attacking mid that can actually beat players 1v1.
 

Lighty64

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Just watched a video of all of his 2015/16 goals - first time I've seen anything of him at all. He certainly looks deadly inside the penalty box, as accurate as the best strikers... but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't worried that every single goal of his was scored from within the 18-yard box in the video I saw. Maybe it's still the residual PTSD from having to endure Soldado stink the Lane out every week, but I'm concerned that precisely none of those goals came out of the blue from long range. I don't think we're a team that specialises in making great chances for our strikers in the penalty area, and I don't see this getting any easier for us next season as many teams will sit back and try to defend against us as a respected CL-qualified outfit in 2016/17. Therefore I think it's crucial for us to get a striker who is unpredictable and/or a threat from distance to add to our squad this summer. If Kane is being shut out in the area by a team camping in their own box then he can pick it up from deep and spank it in from 25-30 yards - I didn't see anything from Janssen to suggest that he could do that and it's nagging at me.

If Pochettino does want him and isn't being fobbed off with his preferred targets with a cheaper option then he's certainly earned the right to our trust in his judgement, and so I'm not saying that I'm dead against the Janssen signing. But I think at this stage if we do end up signing for him it will be more my trust in Pochettino that gives me hope for this transfer rather than my own initial impression of Janssen and how he might fit in our team.

not disagreeing with you, and definitely saying he is in the same class, but do you by chance remember a player called Rudd van Nistorlroy(spelling) don't think he scored many from outside the box.

I know Levy can't throw out there the exact amount we have to spend, but if we could get VJ, Batman and Vazque it would be a great window, a very strong squad, the only thing would be with rotating and keeping everyone happy
 
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