Walker Very Strange

[parklane1]

Walker had a good game last night, my MOM.

 

[lillywhites61]

I actually just looked at if as a positive, best he has played for quite some time, hopefully he will. Get some confidence from that and push on

 

[wizgell]

I have to say Walker seems to struggle when playing alongside Gallas. Since Daws has come back in I think Walker has slowly been picking his form up, but last night he looked lost again and I think he is all too aware that if he gets caught too far upfield Gallas is going to struggle against a quick break.

 

[Dembele'Disciple]

His form I'd certainly a cause for concern, but he's a young lad and I'm sure he'll figure it out. He's just getting a bit overexcited nowadays. He's starting to believe he's better than he actually is. He should stay away from set pieces, stop trying to play a fancy game and play a simple one. He should learn from lahm who's a top fullback. Focus on defense and keep it simple in attack.

Mind you he can't be blamed for Lennons poor form. Lenny is playing some poor football atm.

 

[Phn3Xta5]

He is so fast that he thinks his pace can get him out of trouble. That's why he doesn't think which side he should approach the player with the ball and makes wrong side challenges all the time. The fact that he gets away with it a lot of times makes him perpetrate such indiscretions.

this. 10 million times this. we saw it againt united at old trafford for kagawa's goal and many other times this season.

 

[AngerManagement]

Walker had a good game last night, my MOM.

Well,

He played pretty well, but how can anyone look past Bale for man of the match seeing as once again he near single handedly won us the game!?

 

[Gilzeanking]

When Bale first arrived people were coming in their pants about him, then it went a bit downhill and people were saying pretty much the same about Bale as they are about Walker these days.

We hear this a lot more these days about how terrible Spurs fans are/how you should not be allowed to have an opinion of any player on here unless its positive etc..... and how there were numerous initial slag offs of players such as Bale .

Could we have actual examples of Bale slagoffs plz ? If they exist It'd be a good laugh .

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

We hear this a lot more these days about how terrible Spurs fans are/how you should not be allowed to have an opinion of any player on here unless its positive etc..... and how there were numerous initial slag offs of players such as Bale .

Could we have actual examples of Bale slagoffs plz ? If they exist It'd be a good laugh .

The Bale stuff was on the old site so i'm not sure wether it can still be retrieved or not. Having said that, if it were I don't think I can be arsed to. And I don't agree with you regarding only being allowed an opinion unless it is positive. There are plenty of posters who post constructive and sensible criticism and those threads are actually rather good when they aren't being polluted with someone popping their heads in, posting 'He's shit' and leaving it at that.

Now it's Walker's turn. I've said what I think in an earlier post in this thread. As he improves/gains experience and regains form and then finds consistency the very same posters who simply write him off with a throwaway 'he's shit' and then moaning at every little thing he does, even if there's nothing to moan about, will be bashing away at their tallywhackers over him again.

Dempsey is another one. He gets picked (just gets picked mind) and people say things like 'I'm going to fuck my cat and punch the wife' then he scores a couple of goals and suddenly the wife is getting a good seeing to and the cat is given a treat.

But if what one has to say is (for example) Bale is shit/is starting to believe the hype/cannot do this/cannot do that/is a ****/just plain abuse etc etc then people are going to say something when they do an about turn and start stroking themselves off and start telling the world how they are naming their firstborn 'Gareth'

It's got nothing to do with being 'allowed' anything

 

[parklane1]

Well,

He played pretty well, but how can anyone look past Bale for man of the match seeing as once again he near single handedly won us the game!?

He scored two great goals without a doubt, but in all honesty the rest of his game was below his standards. Thats why.

 

[AngerManagement]

He scored two great goals without a doubt, but in all honesty the rest of his game was below his standards. Thats why.

He was still our most potent threat through out and he was still better than anyone else on the pitch by a good margin on top of which he scored the two goals that won us the game

He was voted MOTM on telly

He was voted by the fans as the Investitec MOTM too

I just can't see an valid argument to give the award to any other person, you seem to be saying it because Walker played better than his recent standard and Bale less so compared to his own recent standard but its not a "most improved player" award its a motm award as in who was the best on the day and without a shadow of a doubt that man was Bale

 

[parklane1]

He was still our most potent threat through out and he was still better than anyone else on the pitch by a good margin on top of which he scored the two goals that won us the game

He was voted MOTM on telly

He was voted by the fans as the Investitec MOTM too

I just can't see an valid argument to give the award to any other person, you seem to be saying it because Walker played better than his recent standard and Bale less so compared to his own recent standard but its not a "most improved player" award its a motm award as in who was the best on the day and without a shadow of a doubt that man was Bale

My argument is that watching the game from the stands i thought Walker was MOM, reguardless of who played up to their recent standard, after all MOM is voted on what happens in THAT match not those before.

 

[Nocando]

Although his corners are turd, Walker shouldn't get the blame for them. That lies firmly at the door of AVB and the coaching staff. He needs an ASBO or something to keep him away from that quadrant.

 

[AngerManagement]

My argument is that watching the game from the stands i thought Walker was MOM, reguardless of who played up to their recent standard, after all MOM is voted on what happens in THAT match not those before.

Exactly and in that much Bale was the best player on the park

I think you're letting what you know about each player influence your judgement (because you think Walker played well for his standard while you think Bale was not as good as he usually was.....you even said that as a reason in your first post)

I think 99 out of 100 people would give Bale the MOTM award if they had never seen either player play before and simply judged them on the merits of their performance on the night, (that's with a 1% margin of error)

You're entitled to your opinion of course but its crazy to me that anyone would possible consider awarding MOTM to anyone other than Bale on the night

 

[eddiebailey]

Man of the Match isn't decided on who scores goals. Bale's two free kicks aside, he was one of our poorest players last night.

Yes all he does is conjure goals out of nothing to win us matches. Apart from that what has he ever done for us?

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Yes all he does is conjure goals out of nothing to win us matches. Apart from that what has he ever done for us?

What?

 

[Gilzeanking]

The Bale stuff was on the old site so i'm not sure wether it can still be retrieved or not. Having said that, if it were I don't think I can be arsed to. And I don't agree with you regarding only being allowed an opinion unless it is positive. There are plenty of posters who post constructive and sensible criticism and those threads are actually rather good when they aren't being polluted with someone popping their heads in, posting 'He's shit' and leaving it at that.

Now it's Walker's turn. I've said what I think in an earlier post in this thread. As he improves/gains experience and regains form and then finds consistency the very same posters who simply write him off with a throwaway 'he's shit' and then moaning at every little thing he does, even if there's nothing to moan about, will be bashing away at their tallywhackers over him again.

Dempsey is another one. He gets picked (just gets picked mind) and people say things like 'I'm going to fuck my cat and punch the wife' then he scores a couple of goals and suddenly the wife is getting a good seeing to and the cat is given a treat.

But if what one has to say is (for example) Bale is shit/is starting to believe the hype/cannot do this/cannot do that/is a ****/just plain abuse etc etc then people are going to say something when they do an about turn and start stroking themselves off and start telling the world how they are naming their firstborn 'Gareth'

It's got nothing to do with being 'allowed' anything

It would be a laugh to read a Bale slag tho eh . Anyway we are on different sides of this argument . You have been clearly irritated of late by posters changing their views with the wind direction . I would argue that you put too much weight behind the posts of the possibly kneejerk variety . People blow off steam , I say , so what ? . Its not going to affect anything important surely . OK you might argue it lowers the tone of the debate , but allowing yourself to get irritated by this means you're going to be irritated a lot , trying to stop (possibly) younger posters putting down immediate reactions is a Canutelike task imo.

G'wan dig up some juicy Bale slags . It'll back up your argument vs the negative posters ...and we'll have a serious laff too

 

[AW?]

Who gives a shit who got MoM anyway?!?!

 

[parklane1]

Exactly and in that much Bale was the best player on the park

I think you're letting what you know about each player influence your judgement (because you think Walker played well for his standard while you think Bale was not as good as he usually was.....you even said that as a reason in your first post)

I think 99 out of 100 people would give Bale the MOTM award if they had never seen either player play before and simply judged them on the merits of their performance on the night, (that's with a 1% margin of error)

You're entitled to your opinion of course but its crazy to me that anyone would possible consider awarding MOTM to anyone other than Bale on the night

Well i guess we will just have to disagree, strange though because in the pub after the game the consensus was that Walker was the MOM.

 

[Nocando]

You have been clearly irritated of late by posters changing their views with the wind direction . I would argue that you put too much weight behind the posts of the possibly kneejerk variety . People blow off steam , I say , so what ? .

I think it's important that these types are highlighted and castigated just as much as they choose to castigate the player/manager in question. Allowing them free reign to pick and choose what they say, and change opinion, as and when they deem to, without any thought about what they've said previously would only serve to increase this type of behaviour, along with the continual negativity that these 'throw away' opinions bring.

I'd much rather oppress such opinions and actually have people who provide reasoned debate and don't sound off at the first opportunity without engaging their brain. It may be 'fair' to allow them to do so, but you only have to look at the match thread to see how it is totally devoid of any meaningful content (bar the first post) and many now avoid it like the plague. Sadly these threads are a fair representation of what goes on at the game, and if you think it has no bearing on on field events then you're mistaken.

I think A & C, the mods and posters certainly have a role to play in ensuring such mouthpieces are turned down or muted as necessary. I think on the whole the mods do a great role in doing so, whilst having a seemingly hands off approach. And as much as they probably would like it, that wasn't an attempt at sucking their balls.

 

[AngerManagement]

Well i guess we will just have to disagree, strange though because in the pub after the game the consensus was that Walker was the MOM.

That probably explains it

Yea by all means you are entitled to disagree, football is all about opinions