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AW?

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I think Sissoko could be pretty useful. We needed a bit more power and he's at a good age with experience although that's the main reason he seems over priced to me. I guess we'll have to see about his attitude but perhaps he'll be inspired around a better squad and CL footy. We'll soon see. I'm just glad we haven't signed another kid in all honesty.
 

RuskyM

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So actually your issue is with Poch and not with Levy?

Ooooooooooooook.

Definitely not, I was mainly railing against this idea that because it's apparently a player Pochettino wants I can't be sceptical of whether or not it'll be a success. I personally think Pochettino just wanted *someone* and this was the best Levy could do.
 

Francis Gibbs

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So much has been said above, I won't reiterate it, but all that aside, I'm really excited that we now have flexibility and players who can change games. Players who will fit different situations, and not be square pegs on round holes. We have a great squad now! :)

its potentially in better shape for sure .... but still lots to be proved by some before it can be called great
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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Those players rely on ceteris paribus. But all things are not equal in the world of football, so it is a false equivalency. I mean, even with Morata he had a £25m buy-back clause to Real. No one else could have signed him for £25m. Anyone else probably would have had to cough up £60m+. The "value" that you speak of for these players was not available to us. it was value that we could not get for the players mentioned.

I'm struggling to see what is confusing about this post @Francis Gibbs . But as I see you also just spammed @Shadydan I am guessing that you are just 'revenge neg-repping' everyone who disagreed with you in the Lamela thread.
 

talkshowhost86

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Definitely not, I was mainly railing against this idea that because it's apparently a player Pochettino wants I can't be sceptical of whether or not it'll be a success. I personally think Pochettino just wanted *someone* and this was the best Levy could do.

Of course you can be skeptical about whether he'll be a success. But the price-tag is irrelevant to that.

Also I think the idea of Poch just wanting 'someone' is ridiculous. He's clearly targeted certain types of player in this window.
 

fatpiranha

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Overall I think this has been a very good window for us. I would have liked Isco or Boufal and also to see Carroll moved on but I don't hate any of the business we have done. More importantly we are now conducting ourselves in the transfer market like we actually have a plan :wideyed: rather than just playing moneyball. That's all I ever really ask. Well done to Levy and co. for that (y).
 

talkshowhost86

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its potentially in better shape for sure .... but still lots to be proved by some before it can be called great

Whenever you post I get this image in my head....

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Francis Gibbs

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I'm struggling to see what is confusing about this post @Francis Gibbs . But as I see you also just spammed @Shadydan I am guessing that you are just 'revenge neg-repping' everyone who disagreed with you in the Lamela thread.

nope - your post makes zero sense to me and people moaning about people moaning is spam.
But btw you keep neg repping every post I make it makes zero difference to me, thought you would have got that by now.
 

arunspurs

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I'm basing it on having watched him a lot and having Newcastle mates that have watched him a lot and their conclusive opinion is that he's fleetingly brilliant but mostly uninspiring with a bad attitude to boot. I think it's very, very naive to believe that all of the problems he's shown at Newcastle over the past few years will suddenly go away just because he's playing for a better team.

If he turns out to be a worldbeater (as I hope he does) I'll happily concede. Right now I feel like this is a player we're going to be trying to get rid of at a cut price next summer.


Yes, he had a terrible last season at Newcastle.
But when Benitez came in, after few games he made Sissoko the captain. Suddenly his performance level became very good.

Benitez gave captaincy to Sissoko for last 6 games.

Newcastle in last 6 games - 3 Wins (Swansea,Palace,Spurs), 3 draws (vs City & Pool, Villa) and 0 Loss.

Personally, he scored 1 goal & 3 assists in that 6 games

My point is, Sissoko I believe got complacent & lost his way at Newcastle till Benitez came in. All he needed was responsibiltiy & to be told he is good enough to lead the team.

"Uninspring & bad attitude" is not what I would call him

He moved on to Euros - Deschamps started him ahead of some French heavy weights. He upped his game again.

I am convinced under Pochettino & in the environemnt of Spurs, he will kick on and go to the next gear.
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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nope - your post makes zero sense to me and people moaning and people moaning is spam.
But btw you keep neg repping every post I make it makes zero difference to me, thought you would have got that by now.

It's evident to everyone that you are not very bright Francis, but would you like to explain how my post made no sense to you? I'm always willing to assist those with poor reading comprehension.

What is difficult about the concept that Morata had a buy-back clause with Real, and anyone else would not have been able to purchase him for that price?

Contrary to what you believe, I do not "neg-rep" all of your posts, only the ones that are dumb. Now if that turns out to be the majority of your posts, then it speaks more about you than myself I feel. Conversely, the simple fact that you feel that I "neg-rep every post" you make makes me think that you care about negative ratings a little too much.
 

djee

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Players like Wanyama, SIssoko and Janssen are not just essential for adding quality and depth to a specific position but also to enable others to thrive. Equally, it is no coincidence that the likes of Alli, Eriksen and Kane have been struggling without the presence of Dembele. Sissoko in particular offers a different dynamic that will create space and opportunities for others.

The club are also very focused on mentality of players. It should be noted that Sissoko is the captain of France when Lloris doesn't play and highly regarded by Deschamps. Wanyama is a fighter (with often very underrated technical ability) and Janssen by all accounts is incredibly motivated having to graft his way to start as the first choice striker for the Dutch.
 

Colonel Dax

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7/10 window for me. Solid, but not spectacular. Would've been fantastic had we secured that elusive creative attacking player to provide much needed competition for Eriksen (Isco? Coric?) but at least we have a deeper squad in key areas.

Pleased with the Sissoko signing - I reckon he'll surprise a few people.
 

Colonel Dax

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I think if Alli doesn't buck up soon, Sissoko will displace him in the 1st team. Eriksen left, Lamela central, Sissoko right.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Its too early to say if we had a good window, it certainly wasn't bad I guess, but really we won't know for a few months. The one thing I am extreamly disappointed at was our lack of being able to bring in a creative playmaker. With exception of a striker it's one of the few positions I feel like we have been crying out for most and we are still missing. Lamela, Alli, Eriksen, Son, whilst all being very good players on their day, none seem to be able to creat something out of nothing when things aren't going our way, at least not a regular bases, none of them take on players enough with the ball at their feet ether. Obviously Isco was the player we were looking to get for this reason, but leaving it until the last few days of the transfer window was incredibly stupid, in my opinion.

It was good that we manged to shift some dead weight off our books, and Jan and Vic look like good signings. I am extreamly sceptical about Sissoko as I have never been a fan but obviously hope Poch brings out the best in him and Nk is extreamly raw so I don't really expect much from him his season. I don't fell like we have improved our starting 11 at all but certainly our squad looks better as a whole. As I said, it's impossible to tell at the moment.
 

mil1lion

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I for one love our starting 11 of last season. When all fit our first team was excellent and could beat anybody. That's not to say we can't improve because of course we can. That will always be the case at least until we're Champions. However it would have taken a hell of a player to get in our first team. Those signings are difficult. I'm sure we tried to bring someone special in but transfers are tricky work with many factors involved.

What we have done well is address the strength in depth. We have a similar squad size but now we have players that fit our system better. I think the Janssen signing will prove vital in that regard. Not only does it mean we have a natural striker there rather than Son or Chadli filling in. We also have the option of 2 true strikers up top. It was clear that Chadli was not suited to that role and so inconsistent when he did play. Janssen has more goals in him because he's a natural striker but he'll offer a lot more than Chadli because when he's not scoring he's working hard for the team (like Kane does).

In N'Koudou we have someone who is a more natural wide attacker. It was clear to me that N'Jie did not suit that role and I'm sure that was our intention with him to play on the left. Maybe in time he could have but he looked more natural in a front 2 with Kane off him which is only an option we would do from the bench. I think the intention last summer was to give Chadli competition on the left. However the emergence of Alli came unexpected so Eriksen shifted to the left leaving Chadli and N'Jie filling on the left or up top depending on the circumstance. So it's difficult to really say Janssen and N'Koudou replace anyone of them in particular but they replace N'Jie and Chadli in the squad.

We shifted the players that were out on loan last season so they didn't really need replacing. We also sold off Bentaleb who barely featured at all last season and signed a more natural defensive midfielder in Wanyama. The sale that probably was a bit of a surprise was that of Mason because he's a hard working squad player (I kind of saw him like how Fergie used to use Fletcher in his squad). The Sissoko signing regardless of how much spent saved us in that position though. With the injury record of Mason I think that may have been a reason we were happy to sell.

The one signing that I'm not sure of is Lopez. I think it's good to have a young keeper coming through but have to question how much top level action he will get. Why swap Espanyol to be a 3rd choice with us? Maybe he will play for the U21s and feature in the domestic cup games. If he impresses it may be time to sell Vorm and go with the young deputy as cover for Lloris next season. I'm certainly not going to complain about having an extra keeper though.

I hear what people are saying about the attacking midfield role. However I can't see any reaosn why Alli once up and running will not improve further from last season. He has the attributes to be the key man in that area. What will happen though is players will fill different positions. Alli will at time play on the left, Kane will at times play behind Janssen and Dier will at times drop into defence. It's a more versatile squad than last season and I think Pochettino can work wonders with them again.

Now who's ready for Champions League football?
 

THFCSPURS19

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Definitely not, I was mainly railing against this idea that because it's apparently a player Pochettino wants I can't be sceptical of whether or not it'll be a success. I personally think Pochettino just wanted *someone* and this was the best Levy could do.
JJ said Poch definitely wanted Sissoko.
 
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