West Ham have won Olympic Stadium

[mpickard2087]

So would I if it means we get some funds to pay for a new stadium in Tottenham.

I'm not sitting here celebrating about the decision. I'm really not. I could see the economi benefits of the move.

But maybe now we will find a way to evolve, but still being in Tottenham.

I think everyone agrees with this mate. JUst cannot see how its going to happen right now, and this means there is a huge danger of us going backwards.

I jokingly suggested it earlier, but thinking about it Levy really should get on the phone to Joe Lewis and beg him to sort something out! ray:

 

[kishman]

I really don't understand how some of you refer to moving to the OS a dream and that you're really gutted. The idea of moving to the OS has only become a reality over the past month or maybe two months. The board have probably been working on it for not even 6 months( considering they registered their interest in September 2010). OTOH the club have been working on the NDP for over 4 years and spent millions on it. They are not suddenly going to give up on it.

 

[L-man]

Surely a legal challenge is going to cost a fair bit and take a while for the investigation to be completed and any issues resolved? Would it be worth seeing the legal challenge through?

I'm no expert or anything so would like any clarification if I'm wrong? :lol:

 

[Roynie]

It does seem strange that such a major decision comes out at this time of night. Either it's a hoax or someone has had too much to drink and shot their mouth off. Alternatively another journalist has been hacking phone calls...!

I was in don't know camp (living abroad) as regards which of the two options on offer. However, the additional costs of the NDP leave me feeling worried that investment in the clubs main asset, i.e. the team, will be insufficient to keep at our current level should it go ahead. If that happens the downward spiral is steep, as we have seen on a number iof occasions in recent years. Feck! :sad: :sad: :sad:

Barman - more beer!!!

 

[Chimbo!]

although i had reservations about moving to the OS, it is easy to see that this decision is a cop out.

 

[SpurSince57]

how the hell can the club work with Lammy to resplve the NDP issues?

It is very hard to see how the NDP is financially viable in the current climate and it's hard to know where the club can go from here.

It's very hard to find any winners in this, it's not us, it's not West Ham fans as they don't want it or too watch football from miles away. Haringay council maybe but it's still very unlikely they will get their NDP, and it matters not that CPO's are ready to deliver as they can take years to be activated.

Then you find your 2 winners, Gold and Sullivan, bought a club on the cheap which in 48 hours time is going to see its value shoot through the roof! See the project through and sell for a massive profit! Nice work if you can get it and good luck to them when all you have to do is work over a few idiots.

Jesus wept.

What NDP issues? Were there any, before Levy chanced his arm and went for Stratford? No, there were not. And the 'club' won't be working with Lammy; it will be working with Haringey Council, who have pushed through the planning in astonishingly short time. I've got plenty of issues with them, since I'm a Tottenham resident, but on this one they've been pretty straight down the line; the bullshit's come from Levy.

 

[Legend10]

I really don't understand how some of you refer to moving to the OS a dream and that you're really gutted. The idea of moving to the OS has only become a reality over the past month or maybe two months. The board have probably been working on it for not even 6 months( considering they registered their interest in September 2010). OTOH the club have been working on the NDP for over 4 years and spent millions on it. They are not suddenly going to give up on it.

Why not, businesses do that all that time as economic climates change!

just because they've spent a long time and a lot of money on a project doesn't mean that if they now deem it as unviable that they will go ahead anyway. In addition whoever was prepared to finance such a project may no longer be willing to do so and maybe no alternative financing can be found.

 

[MattyP]

Surely a legal challenge is going to cost a fair bit and take a while for the investigation to be completed and any issues resolved? Would it be worth seeing the legal challenge through?

I'm no expert or anything so would like any clarification if I'm wrong? :lol:

This is my fear - we spend a huge amount of money challenging this, tieing us up for years in legal wrangling and getting nowhere near solving the stadium issue.

 

[Legend10]

Jesus wept.

What NDP issues? Were there any, before Levy chanced his arm and went for Stratford? No, there were not. And the 'club' won't be working with Lammy; it will be working with Haringey Council, who have pushed through the planning in astonishingly short time. I've got plenty of issues with them, since I'm a Tottenham resident, but on this one they've been pretty straight down the line; the bullshit's come from Levy.

Jesus wept.

Potentially paying for it! Believe it or financing something is a pretty big bloody issue!

How the hell do you know if there were any issues before levy went to Stratford? Privvy to the details were you? No, you have no idea just like the rest of us don't.

 

[Beni]

As shrewd and as good a Businessman Levy is, I cannot see how he would spend £70 million (Or however much it is) on the NDP Project, and explored all angles for this project, before writing this money off and deciding to go for the OS, and declare the NDP not viable.

 

[gregga]

Surely a legal challenge is going to cost a fair bit and take a while for the investigation to be completed and any issues resolved? Would it be worth seeing the legal challenge through?

I'm no expert or anything so would like any clarification if I'm wrong? :lol:

We could launch a judicial review of the decision claiming that OPLC have erred in deciding to award the stadium to West Ham.

This would likely be accompanied by an application for expedition, given the need to have legacy finalised well before the games take place. As such a challenge could likely be completed within 6 months.

Despite this, I can't see how such a course of action would benefit the club. To win the OS in such a manner would be a massive PR faux-pas.

 

[kishman]

Why not, businesses do that all that time as economic climates change!

just because they've spent a long time and a lot of money on a project doesn't mean that if they now deem it as unviable that they will go ahead anyway. In addition whoever was prepared to finance such a project may no longer be willing to do so and maybe no alternative financing can be found.

But the planning permission is there for NDP. If they can get the financing they can go ahead with it. I'm sure the board will consider this. As any other plans of this nature for a new stadium will most probably take at least 2 years for planning permission.

Just bare in mind all these comments from Levy in the media about the viability of the NDP were coming out at the same time we were bidding for the OS.

 

[Mattspur]

I really don't understand how some of you refer to moving to the OS a dream and that you're really gutted. The idea of moving to the OS has only become a reality over the past month or maybe two months. The board have probably been working on it for not even 6 months( considering they registered their interest in September 2010). OTOH the club have been working on the NDP for over 4 years and spent millions on it. They are not suddenly going to give up on it.

I really think that the OS was a golden opportunity and that any other stadium we build wont be as good location wise, transport wise, infastructure wise and financialy. So I'm gutted because I think it was far and away our best option. Now we'll have to settle for second best.

I think that if we stay in Tottenham, we'll always be held back by the area.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

I just can't believe the OPLC and the country can fall for something so stupid.

Corporate crime, in the queens name, like knocking down 200 primary schools, bla bla blah.

I agree. Three stooges.

Very pissed off about this.

 

[Legend10]

But the planning permission is there for NDP. If they can get the financing they can go ahead with it. I'm sure the board will consider this. As any other plans of this nature for a new stadium will most probably take at least 2 years for planning permission.

Just bare in mind all these comments from Levy in the media about the viability of the NDP were coming out at the same time we were bidding for the OS.

It's a pretty big 'if'.

 

[SpurSince57]

Jesus wept.

Potentially paying for it! Believe it or financing something is a pretty big bloody issue!

How the hell do you know if there were any issues before levy went to Stratford? Privvy to the details were you? No, you have no idea just like the rest of us don't.

Now, now. Steady on, Carruthers. There's no need for hysteria. It really isn't good for your blood pressure and general health, and we don't want the natives to see an Englishman blubbing, do we?

Strangely, I was aware that financing the Lane rebuild would be a pretty big issue. I was also under the impression that the Dear Leader had it figured out. Weren't you? Just about everyone else on SC was OK with the idea. Then, all of a sudden, the OS bid goes in, the NPDP goes out, and it's Stratford a-Go-Go!

 

[Beni]

Now, now. Steady on, Carruthers. There's no need for hysteria. It really isn't good for your blood pressure and general health, and we don't want the natives to see an Englishman blubbing, do we?

Strangely, I was aware that financing the Lane rebuild would be a pretty big issue. I was also under the impression that the Dear Leader had it figured out. Weren't you? Just about everyone else on SC was OK with the idea. Then, all of a sudden, the OS bid goes in, the NPDP goes out, and it's Stratford a-Go-Go!

Perhaps the NDP Project was Levy being a fan 1st and Businessman 2nd, and letting the emotion of staying in WHL, push this project to as far as it has gone.
Maybe all the added costs, or whatever it is that has made it unviable, was pushing the financing of this project to the limit where it would impact the playing squad (Which Levy wouldn't want to happen), and could put us at a great risk financially in this current climate.

The above is just guesswork on my part, we just dont know. All I know is that Levy has said its unviable, and that the only fact we have to go by, is the cost of the reevelopment which costs an absolute fortune, and still after 6 or 7 years, we still haven't brought the land, which means that gaining the rest of the land could drag and drag without any resolution, regardless of how much money we chuck at them.

 

[TwoSaintsComeMarching]

Now, now. Steady on, Carruthers. There's no need for hysteria. It really isn't good for your blood pressure and general health, and we don't want the natives to see an Englishman blubbing, do we?

Strangely, I was aware that financing the Lane rebuild would be a pretty big issue. I was also under the impression that the Dear Leader had it figured out. Weren't you? Just about everyone else on SC was OK with the idea. Then, all of a sudden, the OS bid goes in, the NPDP goes out, and it's Stratford a-Go-Go!

Just because you or anyone else was under the impression that the NPD was financially viable doesnt mean it actually was, or that things didnt change along the way. Its pretty clear as the planning was going ahead more and more obstacles emerged - up until the point where it became unviable and a potential move to Stratford became the preferred option. Just because Levy didnt ring you up personally to inform the oh special one Mr SS57 of SC of the various obstacles to the NPDP, doesnt mean Levy is suddenly lying about its viability.

 

[sharky_marky]

Finsbury Park anyone? :wink:

 

[SpurSince57]

we still haven't brought the land, which means that gaining the rest of the land could drag and drag without any resolution, regardless of how much money we chuck at them.

I can tell you now that Levy is lying through his teeth when he says it could take 'years' for the compulsory purchases to go through. There are three properties holding out, and Haringey will wham in the CPOs next month if Levy commits to Tottenham. That commitment is all Haringey is waiting for.