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Where did it all go wrong....?

sunnydelight786

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Cast your minds back to the summer of 07. We had just finished the season, after a storming late run, to finish 5th hence qualify for the UEFA cup again via our league position. We had 3 very decent cup runs. We were scoring goals for fun aswell as conceading them. We seldom lost at the Lane. There was a huge smile on the faces of nearly every Spurs fan. We had a forward line of Berbatoc, Keane, Defoe and Mido. Most importantly we looked like the team/club who were on the thresh hold of breaking the top 4 mononply. All we were missing was a CD , DM, LB and if possible a LM.

The LB/LM position got sorted pretty early with the signing of Bale. We already had Steed at LM, who was doing a sterling job, YPL & BAE at LB. Bale was a signing that covered both them positions.

Soon after Kaboul was signed. He was a very highly rated CD in France with the likes of Juve chasing him. It was a bit of a coup, like Bale was, when we got him in. He was already a French U21 player/captain and was destined for the top.

Darren Bent was also signed as an upgrade to Mido. Not everyone agreed with this signing but one thing that was not in doubt was that we had the best forward line in the PL. Infact one of the best in Europe. Goal scoring would not be a problem for us it seemed the following season.

Finally KPB was brought in as one for now and for the future. Again he came in with a big rep as the previous year he was voted the best young player in Germany. All seem sorted.

What happened after that we all know now, but at what point do you guys think it all went wrong? Was it when Berba's head was turned by Utd just before the season started hence he went into sulk mode? Was it BMJ poor preperation hence we had such a shocking start to the 07-08 season (that was 2 bad starts in a row for BMJ). Was it when our directors were caught out in THAT Seville hotel? Was it the board for not panicking and then sacking BMJ? Was it the appointment of Ramos? etc.....

It's so depressing being a Spurs fan now. Our current team is painful to watch. To think just over a year ago we were a joy to watch and was the team everyone wanted to see pains me now. To think also that not long ago we had a manager we all absolutely adored, then was replaced by a manager who was rated as one of the best in Europe then to end up with Spammer Harry, it really grates me that.:evil:
I get really depressed just thinking about it. We were respected allover Europe and the UK then because of our football and forward line. We are laughed at now :-( From signing players like Modric, Berba, Davids, Bale, etc we now have a manager who is trying to bring in Bellamy, Downing, etc... aswell as speak gushingly about dross like Zomora.....

Where did it all go wrong?
 

bubble07

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it went wrong the moment we sold 90 goals and over 50 assists in 2 seasons for Pav the chav and a kid on work experience.Daniel Levy, take a bow you done good
 

stemark44

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It all went wrong when we bought Kaboul,Taraabt and Boateng instead of the experienced quality players the manager wanted.
 

guy

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May 31, 2007
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Yep instead of signing distin and a LW we got 3 youngsters who've showed bugger all since and darren-one-dimension bent. Whose signings these were i dont know, but they focked everything up.

then we go get bentley for another huge wad of cash when we really only needed a left winger.
 

Houdini

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Jul 10, 2006
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It all went wrong when we signed Juande Ramos.........one of the most successful managers in European football.....or so i was told often enough.....
 

AnotherSpursFan

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All started going downhill with the appointment of Commoli
His major signings are expensive and weak. he was given 2 years to solve our left but instead choose to buy more centre midfielders.
 

spursfan1991

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All started going downhill with the appointment of Commoli
His major signings are expensive and weak. he was given 2 years to solve our left but instead choose to buy more centre midfielders.

I still think he is a top manager but his inability to learn english cost the team because they couldn't understand him. Harry has more or less used the same players, same system, played the same players out of position (bentley) but got some wins because he spoke english and i think players related to him.

Replacing arnesen with commoli was also another big mistake as he bought bent, kaboul and boateng in summer of 07 when we needed different and better players.

It's going to be so hard now especially with Villa looking so good under oneil. Man city will replace hughe with a decent manager who will have loads of money thus making it harder for us. It's actually very depressing and i think we had our chance and we blew it.

sorry for being negative but i can't help it.
 

Rackybear

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Aug 10, 2008
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Theirs two scenarios in which it went wrong.

a.) BMJ was massively undermined at the start of the 07/08 season when Levy and Commoli went behind his back chasing Juande Ramos so he could take us to the 'next level' (top 4) even though BMJ came agonisingly close in his first full season in charge. This led to the poor results which inevitably led to his disgraceful & sad departure.

b.) The signing of £16 million pound Darren Bent, forced BMJ's hand to play a striker (mostly because of the 'you cant have a 16 mill striker on the bench' situation) when Berbatov and Keane were in perfectly fine form and playing very well together. This led to him playing starting 11's and formations he probably didnt want to - leading to a string of results that againt inevitably got him sacked. All whilst Defoe sat and watched from the bench.

Most likely, its a combination of both, with the fact that Commoli was the instigator in bringing Darren Bent to the lane for £16 million. As well as the fact it was his decision to take the risk in bringing Ramos to the lane at MJ's expense. For which he was later sacked after taking full responsibility for his arrival.

Thinking about it, you could blame a large chunk of it on Commoli.
 

sim0n

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Jan 29, 2005
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It all went wrong when Hoddle bought Dean Richards and then talked smack about Andy Cole right before the League Cup final. Cole nets, Spurs lose in the final, therefore no European footie, in turn no big signings possible, and the die is cast... :bang:

Or, just hiring the Anti-Christ (Comoli) as DoF might have been the beginning of the end? Damian certainly fuqed a lot of shit up and will take a couple seasons to fix it... :violin:
 

ginol@14

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Jun 16, 2008
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comolli and levy
they got rid of the only manager in the last 20 years that would of taken us to the next level if he was able to bring in his own players.
if we go down its levys fault.
 

garyhopkins

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It's always going wrong at the Lane. It's an endless cycle of false dawns and blown dreams. But I still enjoy the rollercoaster ride! I live in hope that one day we truly will reach the promised land of the CL. Until then I will hold on tight and remain as optimistic as I can. As such we won't be relegated (I will eat my shoe if we are) and there are three Cups to look forward to. It'll get better next year Sunnydelight! Come on you Spurs!
 

kernowspur

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Poor signings, getting rid of BMJ, appointing Comolli. The one common factor - Levi. He must take most of the blame.
 

garyhopkins

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I respect Levy for making Spurs a very financially secure club. However our poor performance so far this season is as much his fault as anyone. He brought in a top European manager and then failed to provide the players he wanted. Had he paid over the odds for Arshavin and Capel rather than Bentley then I think we'd have done a bit better in the attacking department and Juande might still have a job.
 

paul_1979yid

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Dec 1, 2006
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Christ this is a happy thread!!

'Where did it all go wrong?'

When was it ever right???
See you have started me off now! The Grinch
 

spursgirls

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Aug 13, 2008
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Selling too many regular first team players at one time didn't help much either! We started this season playing a bunch of men who didn't know each other, and it showed. But of course, it goes back further. I think it all got twitchy when we finished fifth instead of fourth after lasagnegate. The board thought that not good enough and so it goes on.
 

Booney

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This is an easy one...so much of that optimism that you write about was generated by a certain Mr Arnesen. He was incredibly highly respected when he arrived and suddenly our club was taken seriously again. As well as some astute signings he most importantly had an excellent relationship with Jol. From the moment his head was turned by the big roubles at Chelski I feel that we have never been the same. His replacement was poor at his job and instrumental in unseating the best manager that I can remember at the lane.
 
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