Where is Dan Ashcroft when you need him?

[fazza]

Do you really think players like Arshavin will want to come to a team at or near the bottom of the league?

Course not, i'm hoping we will be at least 12th by December, fingers crossed though co's if we are still bottom its squeeky bum time :shake:

 

[arnoldlayne]

So the ban you got in the summer failed to get the message home.

why can't we just ban rupstoh outright. He's boring and abusive.

 

[Bobbins]

Whether Dan is a WUM or not (and I have no reason to believe he is) doesn't need to be talked about - whether you believe or disbelieve what he says is up to you. At least he is coherent and realistic in his posts and doesn't just come on shouting 'I HEAR 15 IN 27 OUT £200M WORTH OF BIZNESS' like Jasper, the arch-fraud with the 0% record.

 

[lily_lane]

"realistic" you say? Eek

His entire stance over Berbatov, starting as far back as April, was totally unrealistic and far from accurate or the truth. In fact it was a total misrepresentation.

That's my one main gripe about DA's ITKing - I respect him as an articulate poster - but on this issue the repeated questions I asked him about whether it was his opinion he was expressing or that within the club were never answered so I guess it's best to just leave it. :shrug:

 

[stemark44]

"realistic" you say? Eek

His entire stance over Berbatov, starting as far back as April, was totally unrealistic and far from accurate or the truth. In fact it was a total misrepresentation.

That's my one main gripe about DA's ITKing - I respect him as an articulate poster - but on this issue the repeated questions I asked him about whether it was his opinion he was expressing or that within the club were never answered so I guess it's best to just leave it. :shrug:

I think you are being slightly unfair Lily about the whole Berbatov saga.
Dan was clearly stating what he had been told by his contact at the club.
Which was one BIG FAT LIE!

Keane has already stated that everyone knew for months and there was absolutely no doubt that Berbatov was leaving if the offer was acceptable!
Spurs job was to extract the largest amount of money from his sale.

All the club could possibly do in the circumstances was to keep up the pretence that we hoped he would remain at Spurs and we would be delighted to keep him.
That was the party line and that message was spread through the ranks!

 

[SpurSince57]

I think you need to go back and read what Dan actually said.

 

[degoose]

I think you should all stop argueing, the only people who really know whats going on is Ramos, Levy and Comolli . Sadly we do not and no ITK ever will.

 

[General Levy]

Dan Ashcroft is a great poster on spurs community and I like reading his posts.

We wouldn't want him to leave, would we?

 

[MattyP]

Maybe my recollection isn't correct, but as far as I can remember the main point he made with Berba was unless someone is prepared to pay £30m or over, he won't be going anywhere.

 

[fazza]

Plus Dan's comments still gives me belief that we will sign Arshavin, without those comments i'd be even more depressed right about now :-|

 

[mil1lion]

Maybe my recollection isn't correct, but as far as I can remember the main point he made with Berba was unless someone is prepared to pay £30m or over, he won't be going anywhere.

Exactly. And he always said that the Club expected him to stay, because they didn't expect anyone coming up with the type of money we wanted. He didn't say that we wouldn't sell him though. I mean, who could have expected City to put in a massive bid for him, and force United's hand?

 

[Petyr]

"realistic" you say? Eek

His entire stance over Berbatov, starting as far back as April, was totally unrealistic and far from accurate or the truth. In fact it was a total misrepresentation.

That's my one main gripe about DA's ITKing - I respect him as an articulate poster - but on this issue the repeated questions I asked him about whether it was his opinion he was expressing or that within the club were never answered so I guess it's best to just leave it. :shrug:

Absolutely true.

Almostt everything Dan wrote about Berbatov and Keane turned out to be totally false. Which means that his contact at the club (provided he has any at all, Rupstoh is hardly the only one who doubts he has) misinformed him on a regular basis. (Gus admitted recently that they knew Berbatov was going to leave.)

Dan's "info" was that Spurs will ask for 40m and won't sell for less than 35m. This was his main reason to think that Berbatov will 90% stay. Only some weeks before the end of the transfer window, when the tendency was already clear, did he change his position and admitted Berbatov could go for about 30m. This could also have been false, if Man City hadn't made an offer. Then the transfer fee would have been in the region of 28m. Danchev admitted that Man City offer made the final transer fee bigger.

DA insisted that Berbatov and Keane are happy to stay which was completely false. He wrote that neither Keane nor Berbatov were angling for a move: completely false. He said that they won't be sold unless a replacement is in palce: false. The man knew less about both players than almost every average non-Spurs fan (and considerably less that every average Spurs fan who wasn't willing to be deluded). Yet, he is seen as ITKing :rofl:

Sorry Dan Ashcroft but your posts left me with the impression that you have no regrets that you pretended to know something you never ever knew and that you create(d) false hopes with almost every your post. Unforunately, a lot of people cannot understand when they are fooled.

If I'm mistaken and your misinformations were due only to your contact fooling you, please accept my apologies.

 

[ravo]

Perhaps this thread should be renamed "Outlet for a bunch of morons to abuse a fellow SC member for using the word 'plays'."

For crying out loud, 'plays' can read as tactics, strategy, plan etc. What's the fucking point of getting all fired up over that. Get a life.

WE ARE TOTTENHAM, SUPER TOTTENHAM, WE ARE TOTTENHAM FROM THE LANE.

 

[neogenisis]

Dont stress it Dan, i en joy reading your posts. bottom line is its up to me wether i decide to believe any of it.
Your a good lad as far as i can see (If your not a good lad then meh, no skin of my nose is it) so please post man POST!!

 

[donny1013]

Lot of Dan bashing going on here, and like all ITK's (which Dan doesn't even claim to be) you are meant to take with a pinch of salt. Dan said Kameni, Jarque, A.Ferdinand, C.Cole, Heskey were defo not coming to Spurs even when they were strongly linked with us, and i don't see them playing for Spurs now. Maybe due to the current blame game climate here at SC we are now trying to blame Dan for merely passing on info.lol.

 

[Jonboy]

people that dont believe/enjoy reading Dans posts the answer is simple DONT.
I feel they are interesting and a good read so will carry on to do so

 

[fazza]

Ban those abusing Dan, simple. If they don't wanna read he's info, don't go in the thread.

He did say we had Pavlyuchenko on standby, that turned out to be true.
He also said Berbatov would only leave if an offer of £30 million from United was offered, which it was.
The Keane saga took everyone by suprise and happend pretty quickly, you can't blame Dan for that.
He was confident in getting Arshavin but for whatever reason this didn't happen by the deadline, anything could have happend, various lines have come out about this and its pretty clear we were in for him right to the end, so he was kinda right there.

 

[mil1lion]

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The Keane saga took everyone by suprise and happend pretty quickly, you can't blame Dan for that.

Not to mention that the Keane stuff heated up while the Club were in Spain. Dans contact was unavailable at that crucial time.

 

[DoublePivot]

Not to mention that the Keane stuff heated up while the Club were in Spain. Dans contact was unavailable at that crucial time.

Dan said at the time....

"Yo, Yo, Yo! My boy is rocking the hizzouse in Spain. He says its wickad fucking pisser and loves the go-carts. I'll get back to y'all in 2 and 2 when he returns. His panties are in a twist about something, so it might be back to the chalkboard. But we have lots of erasers so no need to flip out. He doesn't miss his raincoat, but wants some french fries. Fer sure!"

I had to go back and find that but it maybe Dan is a yank mg:

 

[Azrael]

Absolutely true.

Almostt everything Dan wrote about Berbatov and Keane turned out to be totally false. Which means that his contact at the club (provided he has any at all, Rupstoh is hardly the only one who doubts he has) misinformed him on a regular basis. (Gus admitted recently that they knew Berbatov was going to leave.)

Dan's "info" was that Spurs will ask for 40m and won't sell for less than 35m. This was his main reason to think that Berbatov will 90% stay. Only some weeks before the end of the transfer window, when the tendency was already clear, did he change his position and admitted Berbatov could go for about 30m. This could also have been false, if Man City hadn't made an offer. Then the transfer fee would have been in the region of 28m. Danchev admitted that Man City offer made the final transer fee bigger.

DA insisted that Berbatov and Keane are happy to stay which was completely false. He wrote that neither Keane nor Berbatov were angling for a move: completely false. He said that they won't be sold unless a replacement is in palce: false. The man knew less about both players than almost every average non-Spurs fan (and considerably less that every average Spurs fan who wasn't willing to be deluded). Yet, he is seen as ITKing :rofl:

Sorry Dan Ashcroft but your posts left me with the impression that you have no regrets that you pretended to know something you never ever knew and that you create(d) false hopes with almost every your post. Unforunately, a lot of people cannot understand when they are fooled.

If I'm mistaken and your misinformations were due only to your contact fooling you, please accept my apologies.

I tend to agree and....but I understand why people will find opinions like this unfair. Dan's posting style has always been polite, respectful, honest and calm. This is at the same time that other ITKs are posting with poor grammar, a stuck caps lock and gobble-de-gook riddles.

With this in mind its not surprising to see why people still treat him as an ITK god and don't want bad things said about him....particularly when you think that so many of the members on here have to resort to bullying, name calling and uncalled for aggression in order to try and communicate things. But you need to all remember one think...he's a trained journalist and no idiot - its not really too much of a strech for him to exploit the situation and create the adulation he has with this ITK style. Believe me, any of those of us who are professionally trained could probably do just as fine a job at it if we were to so choose.

Thing is, I admire Dan's gaul. In a short time at the board he has effectively generated himself a cult following and for all those of us such as myself who thing he's a bullshit artist, there are twice as many who still think he's the real deal....and for that reason his game has been a success and he has the last laugh.