Where is Dan Ashcroft when you need him?

[yiddotilidie]

Ban those abusing Dan, simple. If they don't wanna read he's info, don't go in the thread.

He did say we had Pavlyuchenko on standby, that turned out to be true.
He also said Berbatov would only leave if an offer of £30 million from United was offered, which it was.
The Keane saga took everyone by suprise and happend pretty quickly, you can't blame Dan for that.
He was confident in getting Arshavin but for whatever reason this didn't happen by the deadline, anything could have happend, various lines have come out about this and its pretty clear we were in for him right to the end, so he was kinda right there.

Not going into the thread is fine, but banning people that dont agree with his info is ridiculous.

 

[knilly]

im sure dan disclosed his contacts to the mods.

 

[Hoowl]

I don't think you have anything to do with the club at all other than drink out of a THFC mug at work like me.

Congratulations for fooling a lot of people if I am right.

ITK abuse.

I personally believe that you are a con artist, especially with the 'play book' thing and links to "think the Paulo in The Waterboy" which has Yank written all over the statement.

You are a fake that many people on here have fallen for. Well done.

Keep it uppy.

ITK abuse.

agree, always good to question someone who comes across so biassed, positive and seemingly fulll of spin..

All ITK information should be taken with a pintch of salt. Debate is encouraged but abuse is not.

Sorry Dan Ashcroft but your posts left me with the impression that you have no regrets that you pretended to know something you never ever knew and that you create(d) false hopes with almost every your post. Unforunately, a lot of people cannot understand when they are fooled.

If I'm mistaken and your misinformations were due only to your contact fooling you, please accept my apologies.

ITK abuse.

Thing is, I admire Dan's gaul. In a short time at the board he has effectively generated himself a cult following and for all those of us such as myself who thing he's a bullshit artist, there are twice as many who still think he's the real deal....and for that reason his game has been a success and he has the last laugh.

ITK abuse.

Everyone knows ITK information should be talken with a pintch of salt, it's repeated often enough. If they don't realise it, it doesn't take long to figure it out. Don't think that you're doing people a favour by discrediting Dan Ashcroft. You have gone beyone stating that you don't believe in his information to suggesting that he is dileberately providing misinformation. This constitutes member abuse. Consider this a final warning.

 

[fazza]

Not going into the thread is fine, but banning people that dont agree with his info is ridiculous.

No, those that constantly bash him after warnings from the mods should be banned, might be the only way they get the message, Dan post's in good faith and leaves alot of info for us out of his own time when he could be doing something else, the least we can do is respect that, IMO Dan was pretty much spot on with nearly all he said, somethings can change in transfers, unless Dan is Daniel Levy then he wouldn't know absolutely everything to the minute would he.

 

[Azrael]

ITK abuse.



ITK abuse.



All ITK information should be taken with a pintch of salt. Debate is encouraged but abuse is not.



ITK abuse.



ITK abuse.

Everyone knows ITK information should be talken with a pintch of salt, it's repeated often enough. If they don't realise it, it doesn't take long to figure it out. Don't think that you're doing people a favour by discrediting Dan Ashcroft. You have gone beyone stating that you don't believe in his information to suggesting that he is dileberately providing misinformation. This constitutes member abuse. Consider this a final warning.

So this isn't a forum for debate, its a forum for "shut the hell up and protect the ignorant".

Shame. Ok I won't make a fuss, but let me just say I think the board rules really need a bit more flexibility. I've been warned more times here than any other board for saying things in debate that are absolutely fine on every other board I've been to. I think Rob & co need to have a serious think about what is and what is not debate and sometimes this place just isn't fun if you have to watch every other word you say through fear of offending someone.

 

[Azrael]

No, those that constantly bash him after warnings from the mods should be banned, might be the only way they get the message, Dan post's in good faith and leaves alot of info for us out of his own time when he could be doing something else, the least we can do is respect that, IMO Dan was pretty much spot on with nearly all he said, somethings can change in transfers, unless Dan is Daniel Levy then he wouldn't know absolutely everything to the minute would he.

Well I certainly don't "constantly bash him".

 

[fazza]

So this isn't a forum for debate, its a forum for "shut the hell up and protect the ignorant".

Shame. Ok I won't make a fuss, but let me just say I think the board rules really need a bit more flexibility. I've been warned more times here than any other board for saying things in debate that are absolutely fine on every other board I've been to. I think Rob & co need to have a serious think about what is and what is not debate and sometimes this place just isn't fun if you have to watch every other word you say through fear of offending someone.

But this is a board of respect, alot of those other sites are just a slaggafon, I've been banned myself before but hay you learn from it, this place is a much nicer place without the constant slagging and abuse of others. If the Mods didn't monitor properly this place would just be as bad as the others.

If you wanna go pick an arguement though, go into your nearest town centre at night, you might even be lucky and get into a proper fight :up:

 

[Kendall]

Hang on, what did DA say about the Berbatov thing?

He said early in the window that we had received a couple of rubbish bids from Milan and Athletico. He maintained that Berbatov would not go unless a team met our valuation.

A bid from United came in and we turned it down, only on the last day did United meet our valuation, over £30m as expected.

Is there something I am missing? I'm pretty sure DA was correct about the Berbs situation.

 

[JKSpurs]

I like Dan's posts as they create debate if nothing else. A few points have come to mind though from reading through previous post.

Dan's quoted (albeit by someone else) as saying both berbs and keane were happy to stay, I must of missed that at the time but if that is/was true I want to smash levy's fucking face in as no amount of money could ever replace or compensate loosing those two.

Secondly does someone have to PM the mod's with the source of there contact at the club to be considered ITK. If so is it just a case of saying I know dorris the tea lady and thats that ? I guess it can't see it ever be checked out, as such surely its a waste of time ?

Last point is bloody hell guys, please get a grip unless you think Dan is claiming to have a hotline through to DL then surely you understand that every bit of information he get is subject to change.

 

[Azrael]

But this is a board of respect, alot of those other sites are just a slaggafon, I've been banned myself before but hay you learn from it, this place is a much nicer place without the constant slagging and abuse of others. If the Mods didn't monitor properly this place would just be as bad as the others.

If you wanna go pick an arguement though, go into your nearest town centre at night, you might even be lucky and get into a proper fight :up:

Yes, but the moderating is uneven. Here we are getting warned because we simply think that DA isn't the real deal and on multiple occasions myself, and other members, are subjected to quite a foul level of abuse from some members, being called stupid and dumb, racist, ignorant, fake, an idiot and so on. Now it doesn't strike me as fair that I can't post a reasoned opinion about an ITK but the mods are happy to sit back and watch the rest of us be insulted and ridiculed.

Still, I guess I shall have to be a good townsperson and obey. :-(

 

[Azrael]

I like Dan's posts as they create debate if nothing else. A few points have come to mind though from reading through previous post.

Dan's quoted (albeit by someone else) as saying both berbs and keane were happy to stay, I must of missed that at the time but if that is/was true I want to smash levy's fucking face in as no amount of money could ever replace or compensate loosing those two.

Secondly does someone have to PM the mod's with the source of there contact at the club to be considered ITK. If so is it just a case of saying I know dorris the tea lady and thats that ? I guess it can't see it ever be checked out, as such surely its a waste of time ?

Last point is bloody hell guys, please get a grip unless you think Dan is claiming to have a hotline through to DL then surely you understand that every bit of information he get is subject to change.

If you know Dorris the tea lady then what biscuits does she prefer to serve?

 

[GDG]

So this isn't a forum for debate, its a forum for "shut the hell up and protect the ignorant".

Shame. Ok I won't make a fuss, but let me just say I think the board rules really need a bit more flexibility. I've been warned more times here than any other board for saying things in debate that are absolutely fine on every other board I've been to. I think Rob & co need to have a serious think about what is and what is not debate and sometimes this place just isn't fun if you have to watch every other word you say through fear of offending someone.

You say you won't make a fuss, then go on to do exactly that. Rob and co have had several years to reach what we consider to be a reasonable balance between lively debate and personal abuse/slagging off of ITK information delivered, by and large, in good faith. We are not as strict as some sites and we are definitely tighter with abuse than other Spurs sites - most people find the site and style that suits them best and stick with it.

As you say, you've had plenty of warnings and your name is a regular visitor to the mod forum. The rules are in place, you've had your warnings - if you continue in the same vein your time here will be short and you can frequent a more liberal site. I assume from the fact that you are a regular visitor here that you like the site, if you've found it's not to your taste why do you bother to hang around?

 

[Azrael]

You say you won't make a fuss, then go on to do exactly that. Rob and co have had several years to reach what we consider to be a reasonable balance between lively debate and personal abuse/slagging off of ITK information delivered, by and large, in good faith. We are not as strict as some sites and we are definitely tighter with abuse than other Spurs sites - most people find the site and style that suits them best and stick with it.

As you say, you've had plenty of warnings and your name is a regular visitor to the mod forum. The rules are in place, you've had your warnings - if you continue in the same vein your time here will be short and you can frequent a more liberal site. I assume from the fact that you are a regular visitor here that you like the site, if you've found it's not to your taste why do you bother to hang around?

Of the Spurs boards I have visited this is the only one I know of that has the vBulletin interface that I'm used to using on other boards.

 

[Bromavinci]

Its pretty simple;

The rules are the rules...you dont have to like them but you do have to abide by them..

As GDG says, this is the SC 'ethos'. If people want to have an account here to browse or contribute then do so but keep it enjoyable for all.

RESPECT each other people, Jesus told us to

 

[fazza]

Yes, but the moderating is uneven. Here we are getting warned because we simply think that DA isn't the real deal and on multiple occasions myself, and other members, are subjected to quite a foul level of abuse from some members, being called stupid and dumb, racist, ignorant, fake, an idiot and so on. Now it doesn't strike me as fair that I can't post a reasoned opinion about an ITK but the mods are happy to sit back and watch the rest of us be insulted and ridiculed.

Still, I guess I shall have to be a good townsperson and obey. :-(

If other members are giving you abuse then you can just PM a mod with the link to the page, then they'd take action, but i'm no Mod (maybe one day :up so I won't tell them how to do there job.

 

[SpurSince57]

Absolutely true.

Almostt everything Dan wrote about Berbatov and Keane turned out to be totally false. Which means that his contact at the club (provided he has any at all, Rupstoh is hardly the only one who doubts he has) misinformed him on a regular basis. (Gus admitted recently that they knew Berbatov was going to leave.)

Dan's "info" was that Spurs will ask for 40m and won't sell for less than 35m. This was his main reason to think that Berbatov will 90% stay. Only some weeks before the end of the transfer window, when the tendency was already clear, did he change his position and admitted Berbatov could go for about 30m. This could also have been false, if Man City hadn't made an offer. Then the transfer fee would have been in the region of 28m. Danchev admitted that Man City offer made the final transer fee bigger.

DA insisted that Berbatov and Keane are happy to stay which was completely false. He wrote that neither Keane nor Berbatov were angling for a move: completely false. He said that they won't be sold unless a replacement is in palce: false. The man knew less about both players than almost every average non-Spurs fan (and considerably less that every average Spurs fan who wasn't willing to be deluded). Yet, he is seen as ITKing :rofl:

Sorry Dan Ashcroft but your posts left me with the impression that you have no regrets that you pretended to know something you never ever knew and that you create(d) false hopes with almost every your post. Unforunately, a lot of people cannot understand when they are fooled.

If I'm mistaken and your misinformations were due only to your contact fooling you, please accept my apologies.

Others have pointed out the flaws in your argument (such as it is) that Dan was completely wrong about Berbatov. In fact, they were pointed out long ago, yet here you are, trotting out the same ballsachingly tedious stuff again.

I give you Proverbs 26:11

On the subject of Keane, Dan was not the only ITK who stated initially that he was happy to stay if Liverpool failed to meet our price/we didn't want to sell. It's hard to think of one who didn't—even Noodles, with his well-known antipathy towards Keane, admitted this. What does seem to have happened is that a couple of weeks after the news leaked out something happened to alter his attitude—we had this in a post from steff, who got it from his contacts at Spurs (although this went largely ignored). It's not unreasonable to suppose that whatever happened forced the club's hand.

Nor was Dan the only ITK unaware of what had happened with Keane, or who had difficulty crediting Noodles's and BEN's info. In fact, the club had succeeded in keeping the whole business under wraps for weeks, which suggests that only the very top level were aware of what had happened, or—more likely—that a few others were also aware but had been told to keep it to themselves. It only came out after rumours started appearing in the media.

Just to add to what Hoowl and GDG have said, the rules on ITK abuse are very clear. If you posted this sort of attack on COYS, you and Rupstoh wouldn't receive the courtesy of a warning, let alone two or three; your next attempt to log on would find you staring at a message informing you that your membership had been suspended until 2037 or something.

 

[Insomnia]

Ghaly's on form

 

[themanwhofellasleep]

I wrestled Dan Ashcroft to the floor and found out that it wasn't even his real face. It was a rubber mask! It turned out to be the old janitor from the abandoned fairground! And he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for us pesky kids.

Then we all jumped into the Mystery Machine and drove home. The end.

 

[fazza]

Too much Scooby Doo!

 

[Bobbins]

"realistic" you say? Eek

His entire stance over Berbatov, starting as far back as April, was totally unrealistic and far from accurate or the truth. In fact it was a total misrepresentation.

That's my one main gripe about DA's ITKing - I respect him as an articulate poster - but on this issue the repeated questions I asked him about whether it was his opinion he was expressing or that within the club were never answered so I guess it's best to just leave it. :shrug:

Strange, I thought his Berba stance was entirely accurate?

He said we had no intention to sell, unless United meet our asking price. He also said they were trying to get away with £20m when we were asking for more like £40m, though the final figure was likely to be somewhere in between.

Since we eventually sold him for £30m (when our price had been met) I'd say that was pretty accurate?

Dan got it wrong on Keane, and has apologised since. He was also wrong on Veloso, but can only go by what his source tells him. Pav was right, Corluka was right, plenty of other things he got right this window.

Realism is at the heart of Dan's posts. He doesn't post sensationalist nonsense. It's why if he really was a wind-up merchant, he's a really good one.