Why do spurs fans hate jenas so much?

[SoulDog]

Simple question really, why do spurs fans hate jenas so much? He makes a difference when he plays, he always works hard, why can't people see what he does? He does twice as much work as Lampard but lampard gets all the credit media etc. Everytime I am at spurs I always hear people moaning about him saying how shit he is etc. He scored a cracker yesterday and people still saying how shit he is etc.

 

[C-oops]

pointless thread
been discussed to the max about a thousand times. read back through.

 

[donny1013]

Seemingly because he is not Steven Gerrard as if those players are common place. Palacios is a good foil for JJ and his goal yesterday was top drawer. I wish he would break forward more though as he has the finishing ability to easily get 10 goals a season

 

[The Original Yiddster]

Posted this in a different thread on the front page the other day but seems more pertinent here........

Let me in a moment of calm - as for some unexplainable reason I feel pretty chilled this morning explain my thoughts on the engima that is Jermaine Jenas.

Ok lets start with the positives Jenas is a very good athlete and has an undoubtedly good engine, he has a reasonably good football brain and when he puts his mind to things can do all of the basics and somethings beyond the basics pretty well - so undoubtedly as PL footballer.

On the flip slide. My major criticisms and dislike of Jenas flow primarily from his attitude or more accurately the mental attitude he approaches games with.
Jenas, and I see these types of people in all walks of life, has the mentality of just doing enough to get by and not to stick his head above the parapet and actually try and do anything more than the bare minimum - in effect he cheats, strong word I know but ultimately that is what he is doing, not giving everything he has and not trying to raise his level of performance consistently to be a better player. The stats that a number of posters used to try justify his performances i.e. pass completion rate mislead and actually when reviewed in greater depth re enforce my view as he very rarely goes out side the comfort zone undertaking only small distance passing.

If you then look at this in the context of Spurs, as with every team you need all of players to continually look to improve and grow and collectively more the level of team performance upwards. I personally think that Jenas game has not improved in any marked way since he joined and if he has it would certainly only be marginally.
This problem for me is exacerbated by the position he plays in, possibly you could get away with a full back who is limited but steady but in the centre of midfield you are playing in arguably the most pivotal position on the pitch especially in the box to box role that Jenas is tagged with.

The consistency question is an interesting one. He is by and large consistent, yes he makes mistakes and on rare ocassions like the goal against the Arse he does things above the norm but this consistency overall is a consistency of the bare minimum - if I do little I can do little wrong, which will never wash for me. Give a player who is prepared to try things and fail in a bid to improve than a comfort zone player any day.

So I can never see myself supporting Jenas as long as he continues to portray these self serving attitudes.

 

[Dr Know]

I think he's reached his peak which is below par for what we need at Spurs

 

[Krafty]

He has it all in his locker, but very rarely brings it out. Took his goal well, and had another good shot well saved, but apart from that he didnt really do much.

His goals this season have been very good, but all too rare.

Like a lot of players, he does do some good work off the ball, especially defensively, but this is not some journeyman pro, or someone who never really made it, this is meant to be an England international, our most experienced midfielder and second longest serving player at the club (I think). Im not expecting him to perform for 90 minutes twice a week, but not twice every three months.

If he didnt have so much ability, I dont think he would get so much stick. Its the fact he doesnt turn up thats the problem.

I also think he is not too sharp mentally. He never seems to know what he is going to do with the ball until he has taken a touch to control the ball and then get his head up. With the pace of the prem you dont have that time.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

You do read some bollox on this site

JJ is not liked because like Carrick before him he just gets on with his game quietly and efficiently. They are both top quality as is Wilson but a player like Zokora who plays to the crowd, does a little jigg, throws his shirt to the crowd and has a catchy name and tune will always catch the eye and get more support.

Neither JJ nor Carrick show any emotion or acknowledge the crowd but both do fantastic jobs for there respective teams. Lots of idiots in Machester still dont get Carrick just as plenty of idiots who watch Spurs would rather see Zokora than JJ wearing the shirt:duh:

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Posted this in a different thread on the front page the other day but seems more pertinent here........

Let me in a moment of calm - as for some unexplainable reason I feel pretty chilled this morning explain my thoughts on the engima that is Jermaine Jenas.

Ok lets start with the positives Jenas is a very good athlete and has an undoubtedly good engine, he has a reasonably good football brain and when he puts his mind to things can do all of the basics and somethings beyond the basics pretty well - so undoubtedly as PL footballer.

On the flip slide. My major criticisms and dislike of Jenas flow primarily from his attitude or more accurately the mental attitude he approaches games with.
Jenas, and I see these types of people in all walks of life, has the mentality of just doing enough to get by and not to stick his head above the parapet and actually try and do anything more than the bare minimum - in effect he cheats, strong word I know but ultimately that is what he is doing, not giving everything he has and not trying to raise his level of performance consistently to be a better player. The stats that a number of posters used to try justify his performances i.e. pass completion rate mislead and actually when reviewed in greater depth re enforce my view as he very rarely goes out side the comfort zone undertaking only small distance passing.

If you then look at this in the context of Spurs, as with every team you need all of players to continually look to improve and grow and collectively more the level of team performance upwards. I personally think that Jenas game has not improved in any marked way since he joined and if he has it would certainly only be marginally.
This problem for me is exacerbated by the position he plays in, possibly you could get away with a full back who is limited but steady but in the centre of midfield you are playing in arguably the most pivotal position on the pitch especially in the box to box role that Jenas is tagged with.

The consistency question is an interesting one. He is by and large consistent, yes he makes mistakes and on rare ocassions like the goal against the Arse he does things above the norm but this consistency overall is a consistency of the bare minimum - if I do little I can do little wrong, which will never wash for me. Give a player who is prepared to try things and fail in a bid to improve than a comfort zone player any day.

So I can never see myself supporting Jenas as long as he continues to portray these self serving attitudes.

What a load of old toot

 

[Kendall]

No idea. He worked just as hard as Palacios yesterday without giving the silly free kicks away. He also had the balls to shoot when everyone else (bar the lead-footed pav) didn't have the bottle and won us the match.

 

[defoe18]

He's a top Prem midfielder

 

[Dr Know]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_5273508,00.html

 

[southlondonyiddo]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_5273508,00.html

Great news

Sell him, we have Thudd and Zokora as very good back up!! (The thoughts of lots of stupid people)

:bang::stupid:mg:

JJ is top class and has found a great partner in Wilson. These CM players do not grow on trees and it will be a backward step and a big blow If we lost him.

 

[Marty]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_5273508,00.html

Doubtless people will now start saying that JJ's only upped his game recently because he wants to play for Jose :roll:

Him and Palacios seem to bring the best out of each other, and we'd be fools to let Jenas go. He was excellent yesterday, and I think having a partner like Sgt. Wilson has made him finally get stuck in the way we know he can in every game.

I have previously criticised him (mostly under Ramos, I defended him whole-heartedly under Jol) but he's turned a corner after Harry came in.

 

[Rocket]

You do read some bollox on this site

JJ is not liked because like Carrick before him he just gets on with his game quietly and efficiently.

I don't want a quiet, efficient attacking midfielder. We're Tottenham Hotspur!

A quiet efficient fullback or defensive midfielder is fine, but Jenas should support the attack more

I don't dislike him, Jenas is a good player when he uses his stamina and pace, but unfortunately, as has aleady been said, yesterday was another example of him cruising

What was yesterday - his 4th goal of the season? He should get 8-10 a season when you think what he's capable of

 

[DHMadboy]

modric palacios jenas lennon

i have to say i think the midfield is pretty good, if we let them just keep playing together, and they get a good understanding of each other it could be one of the best in the prem

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I don't want a quiet, efficient attacking midfielder. We're Tottenham Hotspur!

A quiet efficient fullback or defensive midfielder is fine, but Jenas should support the attack more

I don't dislike him, Jenas is a good player when he uses his stamina and pace, but unfortunately, as has aleady been said, yesterday was another example of him cruising

What was yesterday - his 4th goal of the season? He should get 8-10 a season when you think what he's capable of

Maybe he's just not as good as Gerrard, Lampard or Scholes.

We cant slag the guy off because he doesn't reach the heights we think he can.

He's been the best CM player at Tottenham (along with Carrick) since 1991.........that is a massive list of ordinary players before JJ came along.

We have probably had 50+ players in the middle since Gazza who couldn't tie JJ laces but havn't got nearly as much stick.

 

[Dr Know]

:bang::stupid:mg:

I don't know if these are meant for me I just brought news to the forum.


I'm not a JJ fan no but to sell him without a better replacement is stupid. He has improved since Palacios came on board or it could even be down to Harry but I stand by my words he has too many odd good games, he's too inconsistent

 

[southlondonyiddo]

:bang::stupid:mg:


I don't know if these are meant for me I just brought news to the forum.


I'm not a JJ fan no but to sell him without a better replacement is stupid. He has improved since Palacios came on board or it could even be down to Harry but I stand by my words he has too many odd good games, he's too inconsistent

Not aimed at you mate just a general thing for those who think getting rid of JJ is a fantastic idea because they bloody hate him and think Thudd and Zokora are better anyway.

 

[alfiespurs]

It would break my heart to see Jenas to leave, but I think he wants to go to Inter. However, I have a funny feeling that Mourinho will end up at City. Jermain has the potential, but it is a question of unlocking it ... Has been a very hit/miss player... But under Harry et al I think we can start to get the BEST out of him.

 

[fortworthspur]

He's a CM. He, like other CMs, is going to have the most unreasonably high expectations put upon him by the fans.