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Why do spurs fans hate jenas so much?

DJS

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Wouldn't worry about it mate, a number have moved onto hating Robbie Keane at the moment. :up:
 

worcestersauce

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Because he played for toon, always did well against us and some people didn't want us to buy him and can't admit to being wrong.

As I've said before goodbye and Good luck JJ you owe Spurs nothing and the fans even less; I don't want him to go but we don't deserve to keep him, Pavlyuchenko who had a distinctly average game got more support when he got substituted than JJ got when he scored a class goal.
 

donny1013

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I sit near someone that claps the players name when the team is read out before kick off, everyone bar JJ, how pathetic. The fact that Jose considers JJ good enough to play for a massive club like Inter shows how people in the game rate him.
 

DJS

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I' be gutted if JJ does leave in the summer, especially as the midfield is looking so well balanced now.
 

Rocket

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Maybe he's just not as good as Gerrard, Lampard or Scholes.

We cant slag the guy off because he doesn't reach the heights we think he can.

He's been the best CM player at Tottenham (along with Carrick) since 1991.........that is a massive list of ordinary players before JJ came along.

We have probably had 50+ players in the middle since Gazza who couldn't tie JJ laces but havn't got nearly as much stick.

I don't think we expect him to be a Gerrard, most people just want to see a bit more consistency and drive.

Agree there's a some fans who are well over the top in their criticism of JJ & if Downing comes he's likely to experience the same thing
 

PLTuck

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Because he played for toon, always did well against us and some people didn't want us to buy him and can't admit to being wrong.

As I've said before goodbye and Good luck JJ you owe Spurs nothing and the fans even less; I don't want him to go but we don't deserve to keep him, Pavlyuchenko who had a distinctly average game got more support when he got substituted than JJ got when he scored a class goal.

This.

Like Carrick, many will only see what he gives us when he's gone. I only hope HR can find a suitable replacement.
 

KalSpur

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I have no idea why. it's one thing for him not to be a favourite, quite another to be villified to the extent he is. The way some people carry on, you'd think he was single-handedly responsible for the fact that we haven't been as successful as the Gooners.
 

Winchy85

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It's because Jenas doesn't play a pretty game, Jenas doesn't play that 50 yard wonder ball or showboat with it. Jenas does the dirty work and to say he doesn't get involved enough is crap, maybe on the TV or the highlights the work he does isn't shown as much but when you go to the games you see him all over the pitch and is generally involved in most decent things we do. Yesterday he had a great game, yet I bet he doesn't get the credit for it and his performance is only described with the fact he scored a goal.

I think the fact that some of our best footballing displays have been with him and Palacios in the center shows how good a player he is, so underrated it's unreal.
 

kernowspur

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Mainly because many who post on here do not understand that football is a team game and that to be succesful a team needs someone who does all the hard work, covering and tackling. They love someone who plays to the crowd with long runs that lead nowhere (Zok) or score spectacular goals occassionally. They are the same ones who moaned about Carrick and then found out what a loss to the team it was when he left. It is why very few realise what agood left back Assou Ekotto has become, he just gets on with his job efficiently.
It's best to ognore the posters that continually complain about JJ.
 

Kendall

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I don't want a quiet, efficient attacking midfielder. We're Tottenham Hotspur!

A quiet efficient fullback or defensive midfielder is fine, but Jenas should support the attack more

I don't dislike him, Jenas is a good player when he uses his stamina and pace, but unfortunately, as has aleady been said, yesterday was another example of him cruising

What was yesterday - his 4th goal of the season? He should get 8-10 a season when you think what he's capable of

We have two strikers, two wide midfielders and two full backs that support the attack.

Jenas has been given the roll of running and breaking up play with Palacios and helping to steady the ship and break down potential counter attacks.

Why do you want 7 players all attacking? what's the point? should I call you Ossie Ardiles?
 

Sanj

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Posted this in a different thread on the front page the other day but seems more pertinent here........

Let me in a moment of calm - as for some unexplainable reason I feel pretty chilled this morning explain my thoughts on the engima that is Jermaine Jenas.

Ok lets start with the positives Jenas is a very good athlete and has an undoubtedly good engine, he has a reasonably good football brain and when he puts his mind to things can do all of the basics and somethings beyond the basics pretty well - so undoubtedly as PL footballer.

On the flip slide. My major criticisms and dislike of Jenas flow primarily from his attitude or more accurately the mental attitude he approaches games with.
Jenas, and I see these types of people in all walks of life, has the mentality of just doing enough to get by and not to stick his head above the parapet and actually try and do anything more than the bare minimum - in effect he cheats, strong word I know but ultimately that is what he is doing, not giving everything he has and not trying to raise his level of performance consistently to be a better player. The stats that a number of posters used to try justify his performances i.e. pass completion rate mislead and actually when reviewed in greater depth re enforce my view as he very rarely goes out side the comfort zone undertaking only small distance passing.

If you then look at this in the context of Spurs, as with every team you need all of players to continually look to improve and grow and collectively more the level of team performance upwards. I personally think that Jenas game has not improved in any marked way since he joined and if he has it would certainly only be marginally.
This problem for me is exacerbated by the position he plays in, possibly you could get away with a full back who is limited but steady but in the centre of midfield you are playing in arguably the most pivotal position on the pitch especially in the box to box role that Jenas is tagged with.

The consistency question is an interesting one. He is by and large consistent, yes he makes mistakes and on rare ocassions like the goal against the Arse he does things above the norm but this consistency overall is a consistency of the bare minimum - if I do little I can do little wrong, which will never wash for me. Give a player who is prepared to try things and fail in a bid to improve than a comfort zone player any day.

So I can never see myself supporting Jenas as long as he continues to portray these self serving attitudes.

This is the 1st time in all of your JJ hating i have read, that i have heard a logical reasoning behind the hatred. I can now uderstand your reasoning - however i do think you are still doing JJ a huge dis-service when you accusing of doing the minimum to get by.
He works his ocks off and is often expected to cover 2/3 roles during a game for the last 2/3 seasons. We saw a JJ play at a higher level when playing with Carrick. But since carrick's departure JJ has had to play as: box to box player, tackler, creater, leader, goal threat for the team. Many of these roles he has had to fulfill in the same game, ad often in under-par teams. I'm sorry JJ is a good player - but he is not superhuman. To expect him to fulfil his ambition when trying to juggle the above roles is simply unrealistic - yet our fans continue to berate him for this. To jugge roles like this from gae to game is tough, but to try and do it wthin games must affect jj's game.

I agree he can be frustrating and agree that he may not be in the top bracket of midfielders, but he is a very good midfielder and adds a great deal to our team.

Please - give JJ mo9re credt for what he does and look at the bigger all round picture before abusing one of our own.
 

Hoowl

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Aug 18, 2005
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If anyone thinks it's will be simple to replace JJ or Bent I think they will be sadly mistaken. To a degree, I agree with the Carrick analogy. He was only really appreciated once he'd left. The same applies to Steed. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive for better but we should apprciate what we have, whilst we have it.
 

DC_Boy

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I and many others on here have been appreciting JJ while he's been here

a lot have missed what he offers

that's fair enough

the abuse and vilification has been another thing - it's been disgraceful - it's never been justified and if JJ gets the chance to go to Inter he should take it- tho it will hurt Spurs - but as others have said JJ owes spurs nothing

he's been one of our best mids for 4 straight seasons - a regular on merit and for two of those seasons has been our best mid

yet both here and much much worse on some other sites (606 is particularly sickening at times - it's one reason I won't post on there, because I know I'd lose it and what's the point) JJ is treated like he's a mass murderer

i've read people openly say they want to punch him in the face - and yet they call themselves fans - great supporters hey - and of course all the ridiculous 'waste of space' etc comments, for a player who's pretty much a model pro on the pitch, a good articulate ambassador for the club, and a decent/good mid

simply unbeliveable - except I've been going to the Lane for nearly 50 years and the poison that seeps out there at times has been a problem for the club a long long time now
 

AngerManagement

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11854_5273508,00.html

Jermaine Jenas admits his head has been turned by interest from Inter Milan.
The England midfielder has been a target of Inter boss Jose Mourinho ever since he took charge at the Giuseppe Meazza last summer.
A deal almost came to fruition in January when Ricardo Quaresma was set to move to White Hart Lane, but that failed to materialise and he joined Chelsea instead.
But Mourinho has not lost his interest in signing Jenas and is confident of landing the former Newcastle and Nottingham Forest ace.
And Inter have received encouragement to pursue the deal by the player himself.
"You take notice when Inter show an interest," Jenas told the News of the World.
Jenas was speaking after he scored the only goal in Tottenham's 1-0 win over West Brom on Saturday.
 

stemark44

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You do read some bollox on this site

JJ is not liked because like Carrick before him he just gets on with his game quietly and efficiently. They are both top quality as is Wilson but a player like Zokora who plays to the crowd, does a little jigg, throws his shirt to the crowd and has a catchy name and tune will always catch the eye and get more support.

Neither JJ nor Carrick show any emotion or acknowledge the crowd but both do fantastic jobs for there respective teams. Lots of idiots in Machester still dont get Carrick just as plenty of idiots who watch Spurs would rather see Zokora than JJ wearing the shirt:duh:

:clap::clap::clap:

Because he played for toon, always did well against us and some people didn't want us to buy him and can't admit to being wrong.

As I've said before goodbye and Good luck JJ you owe Spurs nothing and the fans even less; I don't want him to go but we don't deserve to keep him, Pavlyuchenko who had a distinctly average game got more support when he got substituted than JJ got when he scored a class goal.
:clap::clap::clap:


These two posts just about sum up my own thoughts on the matter.

Jenas was superb yesterday and won us the game.
 

AngerManagement

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JEnas is a very good central midfielder he has alot of strings to his bow. He does however need a strong partner in the middle with him, since Carrick left he has rarely shown the same form he once did.

I have high hopes for next season if we can keep a settled pairing of he and Palcios in the middle, the more they play together the better they will become and I think this could be the foundations of our team.

We already have a solid (ish) defensive line (if we can keep them all fit and playing) and some creativity in Modric/Keane/Lennon. Defoe offers some attacking bite and hopefully Pav will provide more up top next year.

I am sure we will see a few players move on in the summer and they will surely have to be replaced (hopefully with extra quality)

The summer will be very interesting, hopefully the transfer news will not include Jenas moving to Inter (because in our current postion we will find it very hard to replace him with someone of equal or greater quality)
 

Dr Know

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The question is do we hate JJ or do we just wish he was more consistent. I've seen him put in a good shift, I've seen him out play the other 21 players on the pitch but its not frequent enough, listen if Harry can get him to play his strengths week in week out with just the odd bad game then I would eat my humble pie and shout his name from the rooftops (as I've done with Dawson).

We don't need him to play to the crowd or be in the papers linked with any club thats got money but we do need him to be consistent.
 
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