Why no Taraabt?

[hughy]

Taarabt has been in the exact same position since we signed him. I really can't see him stepping up now.

 

[Pinto]

I just finished watching that clip of him against Derby, granted it was Derby but he just has such good raw talents that I can't see Ramos reeling him in a bit and getting the best out of him.

If he does figure out when the right time to pass is, he will be deadly as a super sub next year and then push Steed out the year after and cement his place in the first team. Not for sure he will ever figure it out but if he does, watch out lads, this one is very talented.

 

[Legacy]

Taarbart is the new ZeeZoo. The boy is absolute class, surprised people can't see his blatant talent.

I don't think anybody has doubted his raw talent, quite the contrary. Taraabt is a fantastic dribbler of the ball, that much is obvious, he also has an incredible amount of confidence/arrogance about his own ability.

But while those are both good qualities for a young footballer, they're also his downfall. He plays like a schoolboy, just running around as many players as he can before trying to shoot, only passing when he has no alternative.

While we all love to see a player dribbling the way he does, it's not really effective for the team. Hence the problem. What we need is for him to run with the ball from the halfway line, then look to pass the ball when he's nearer the final third, or take the shot if it is the best choice.

If he learns to do that, fantastic. We'll have a great young player on our hands. If not, we have a luxury showman that has no place in our first team.

 

[llamafarmer]

Taarbart is the new ZeeZoo. The boy is absolute class, surprised people can't see his blatant talent.

:lol: Seriously, has Zidane been retired so long that you can't remember how phenomenally good he was? He was a once in a generation player. It's ludicrous to compare a 19 year old reserve player to probably the greatest footballer since Maradonna. :bang:

People can see he has talent, the question is can he grow up and actually start to make the most of it? Oh, and learn to shoot?

 

[striebs]

Taarabt is a really tricky one.

I don't think it would be a good idea to send him on loan to the Championship. He'd be playing with teammates who are far inferior to him technically, and I suspect it would encourage his worst trait: his tendency to ignore his teammates and back his own ability to dribble past the opposition solo.

Also, given we've lost the jewel of our Academy, Terry Dixon, to a terrible knee injury, I'm not a big fan of the idea that, crudely, "once he gets kicked a few times he'll pass the ball more often".

We all know what the issue is. Taarabt has to accept that football is a team game, and that he has to play to a team shape and philosophy, only taking men on when it's the best option for the team. It's like a drug addict. There's no point in sending them to rehab until they decide, in their own mind, that they want to be clean. Taarabt has to decide he wants to play for the team. Until then, Ramos won't pick him.

If Taarabt is showing no sign of getting it, and we want to keep his registration, then I would loan him out to a technical league, such as La Liga. He probably would get playing time at a bottom half La Liga side, as well as getting the team ethic drilled into him relentlessly.

Great post

 

[Stoof]

But while those are both good qualities for a young footballer, they're also his downfall. He plays like a schoolboy, just running around as many players as he can before trying to shoot, only passing when he has no alternative.

I think that's exactly it really.

He reminds me of a lesser Joe Cole. But when Cole came on to the scene he was in a great West Ham youth team that went to lift the Youth Cup with some glorious (according to my Spammer mates) performances from Cole, who was knocking on the first team door at such a young age.

Adel Taarabt FC doesn't do it for me. I'm all for a Ginola player - but Ginola could cross with both feet, play appropriate passes and through balls and know when to beat a man and when to not. Until ATFC learns how to do that then there's seriously no hope for him.

I've been uncharacteristically harsh on him, but only because some have offered him up as our Messiah - particularly on the left.

 

[Kendall]

He has bags and bags of talent, but untill he can apply that to a team game then unfortunately he's a no go for me. I can't be doing with a player who has to beat them same man 4 times before putting the ball out of play when we really need a goal.

It'll be a shame if he doesn't mature into a player with vision. Imagine if he had 50% of the vision and passing ability of the Hudd? he'd be one of the best players in the league.

 

[finch101]

Probable be the only season in a while which ends like this and personally id sacrifice some points to see players like KPG,Tarrabt,Ohara,Rose get some Premier League minutes under their belt, esp as we never loan out our young starlets!!!

 

[finch101]

on Tarrabt, he has soo much raw ability, if we could mould him and nurture him right he could be a world beater!

 

[jonnie83]

This is from the last reserve game where he assisted for Peckhart and scored. His run for Peckharts goal is class. Was supposedly motm in this game by a country mile.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tnsj3MHa5xE

Was at this match and he was not as good as you think. never played the early ball when the break was on, and never tracked back at all. Not saying that he doesn't have talent but is not ready for premiership football- I think he will get more time next season when there will be 7 subs as then we can have a wildcard on the bench.

 

[RussellYid]

I really hope he stays and plays because he looks awesome.

Because he simply isn't good enough yet. When he is up to the required standard Ramos will play him.

He could find a dead end in a desert.

im not saying he is the next zidane but he is hands down the most skillfull player in the squad and may be able to create 1 or things in a tight game.

Taarabt is as defensive minded as Ginola used to be and simply doesn't offer enough going forward to be that sort of luxury player. He tries to beat the same player 3 times, hasn't shown any ability to pass incisively and hasn't covered himself in glory in front of goal. And that's not just in the few first team appearances it's in the reserves aswell.

He's got talent but at the moment hasn't shown that he can use it effectively. Hopefully he can sort it out...but if he doesn't he won't be ousting anyone from the team any time soon.

Personally, I think he's at a similar stage to Ronaldo when he first joined United

He's a skillful player, and I love watching him, but Ramos isn't going to want someone to play around and do fuck all.

Why not play him over steed for a couple of games? Give him a chance, it might even show him up, it'll make him work harder if he's shit in the first team.

I really hope to see Taarabt play 15 mins in every game until the end of the season. I think he needs to learn more teamplay, but he is a special talent, and deserves his chance.

Cristiano Ronaldo was also very ego at first, but now he is a complete player. Taarabt is not the same as Ronaldo, but he has many of the same movements and skills as him. He needs more time, and the more he plays in the first team, the more he adapts, and learns.

Taarbart is the new ZeeZoo. The boy is absolute class, surprised people can't see his blatant talent.

Ramos should start to introduce him abit more, maybe next season we ll see more of him. The encouraging thing is that Ramos seems to pick him for many of his squads even if he doesn't start him.

Taarabt has been in the exact same position since we signed him. I really can't see him stepping up now.

watch out lads, this one is very talented.

Adel Taarabt FC doesn't do it for me. Until ATFC learns how to do that then there's seriously no hope for him.

I've been uncharacteristically harsh on him, but only because some have offered him up as our Messiah - particularly on the left.

He has bags and bags of talent, but untill he can apply that to a team game then unfortunately he's a no go for me. I can't be doing with a player who has to beat them same man 4 times before putting the ball out of play when we really need a goal.

on Tarrabt, he has soo much raw ability, if we could mould him and nurture him right he could be a world beater!

Here are some quotes before today. I'm not trying to show people up, or make people feel better. My post it to show how things can change in the space of thirty minutes worth of football.

For example, the guy behind me at the lane today was calling for him from the first minute. By the end of the game, he was calling him every name under the sun and was public enemy number one.

I feel for Taarabt today. He had an absolute shocker... but the one positive was no matter how bad he was doing, he kept coming for the ball and didn't hide.

I kinda wish he had hid! :wink:

 

[Chatterbox1169]

I know he's far from being the finished article, but at times today he seemed to be the only only moving into space and making effort to do something!! He also did some accurate passes, which quite a few of our players were having trouble with today = loss of posession!!!!

Keep him and work on him!!

 

[mkkid]

I know he's far from being the finished article, but at times today he seemed to be the only only moving into space and making effort to do something!! He also did some accurate passes, which quite a few of our players were having trouble with today = loss of posession!!!!

Keep him and work on him!!

He a show pony,nothing more,quite frankly he is a poor mans Domingez and thats saying something!

 

[Kendall]

at the moment he should be nowhere near the first team. Just because he's got stepovers does not mean he should bypass the 2 years + hard work in the reserves the likes of O'Hara and Barnard had to go through before they got their chance.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Miles off the first team. Rabbit in headlights and clueless as to what he's trying to achieve.
If he's ever to make it Ramos will have to show amazing patience

 

[nedley]

The guy is 18! Yeah he lost the ball on a number of occasions but he showed more ambition in his 30 mins than anyone else did in 90!

 

[southlondonyiddo]

The guy is 18! Yeah he lost the ball on a number of occasions but he showed more ambition in his 30 mins than anyone else did in 90!

Yes but not difficult on todays display by about 8 of our side. Yes he's 18 and has a few tricks but he's miles and miles away from a player capable of playing in a side looking to challenge the top 4.

 

[General Levy]

Yes but not difficult on todays display by about 8 of our side. Yes he's 18 and has a few tricks but he's miles and miles away from a player capable of playing in a side looking to challenge the top 4.

And Huddlestone is?

Taarabt can become a great player. Like Nedley has said, he showed more invention in his 30 minute cameo, then the whole of our midfield combined. Yes, he fucked up for their 4th, no if's or but's, he fucked up. However, the boy is a very good prospect.

 

[nedley]

Yes but not difficult on todays display by about 8 of our side. Yes he's 18 and has a few tricks but he's miles and miles away from a player capable of playing in a side looking to challenge the top 4.

As i said he 18!! I dont know of many 18 yr olds that have established themselves for top four teams! He aint even started a game! How anybody could of come on 3-1 down and turn around that shower of shite! Time and time again he lost the ball but time and time again he tried. Some good some bad! He'll learn!

 

[southlondonyiddo]

And Huddlestone is?

Taarabt can become a great player. Like Nedley has said, he showed more invention in his 30 minute cameo, then the whole of our midfield combined. Yes, he fucked up for their 4th, no if's or but's, he fucked up. However, the boy is a very good prospect.

Course HUDD's miles ahead of Taarabt.

He's been a very good prospect ever since we signed him and he hasn't improved at all yet.