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Why we need a defensive coach.

philip

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I've just written a column for the first time - in the column section. Here it is.


After another really frustrating loss we lick our wounds and look ahead to the next game. Pochettino and the Spurs fans are justifiably proud of the way our very young team played against a team full of expensive world class players.
We point to the fact four academy players started yesterday (Kane, Mason, Bentaleb, Townsend), and that another three young English players were bought as youngsters (Walker, Dier & Rose) as signs that Spurs are building a team the proper way. Our starting eleven had an average age of just 23!

That is all well and good and those are all good points. Like practically all Spurs fans, I'm very happy with the job Pochettino is doing. The squad is young, strong and the signs from our academy are of an even better bunch of players joining the first team squad next season including the likes of Tom Carroll currently at Swansea and Dele Ali who looks first team material already.

However, the reason why we lost the game yesterday and why we're not already in the top four is not because our young team isn't good enough. Its because of defensive errors. The first goal yesterday was the result of two defensive errors. Firstly, Chadli poor positioning and tug on the Chelsea players shirt. Secondly, it was that we set up our defense zonal, as with many free kicks, rather than man to man as we do at a corner. This was pointed out yesterday during half time analysis. That free kick was from way out wide and was always going to be delivered into the danger area like a corner. The goal came from our defenders marking the space (zonal) rather than marking their danger men (man to man).

Time and again we give away goals, not from amazing play from the opposition, but from defensive mistakes. We've come from behind the most this season - because we've had to! We've let in more goals than all of the rest of the top 10 and more than West Brom. Hull in 15th have let in the same amount of goals as us and Aston Villa, in 19th have let in just one more!
We've kept just 6 clean sheets in 26 league games, and four of those came in the first 7 games!

For comparisons sake, Liverpool's rise up the table, leapfrogging Spurs, has largely been the result of a 10 game run in which they kept 6 clean sheets!

Scoring-wise, we've actually outscored everyone outside the current top four! Scoring goals isn't our problem. Its our defense thats letting us down.

We need to sort out our defensive woes. This doesn't mean signing new defenders. Defending has to be done as a team. we've seen plenty of examples where the opposition has scored because the midfielders or winger hasn't tracked him or switched off.

Defensive coaching has to be our priority. We've got 14 games left to the season with just 1 game per week most weeks. The players are fit enough to be drilled. That famed second training session should be all about defending.

if we stop conceding goals, we can get top 4. Lets do it! COYS
 

Japhet

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Lack of communication seems to be rife. The first Chelsea goal came from Rose trying to clear a ball that Bentaleb would have dealt with easily had Rose not managed to flick it on. It all happens very fast in real time but none the less, it should have been dealt with better.
 

double0

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Aug 29, 2006
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We just need better defenders (CB) that like to defend.

Imo our major concern is Vertonghen once we sort that out we will be much better. Vertonghen looks very uncomfortable defending if you ask me he isn't good in the air he can't tackle on the turn his not that quick but on the ball he looks fine.
 

Gilzeanking

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We just need better defenders (CB) that like to defend.

Imo our major concern is Vertonghen once we sort that out we will be much better. Vertonghen looks very uncomfortable defending if you ask me he isn't good in the air he can't tackle on the turn his not that quick but on the ball he looks fine.

Yes and didn't go to Arse because Wenger wanted to play him further forward . Verts is so good on the ball I can't understand why he insists on CB .
 

Dirty Ewok

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Lack of communication seems to be rife. The first Chelsea goal came from Rose trying to clear a ball that Bentaleb would have dealt with easily had Rose not managed to flick it on. It all happens very fast in real time but none the less, it should have been dealt with better.

Agreed, in numerous matches (not just yesterday) we seem to have something happen where if anyone had taken charge and spoken up the error could have been avoided....yet it just didn't happen.
 

Japhet

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And a good one!

That's why it's so puzzling to me that we seem to get ever more shambolic at the back...


Being a good player doesn't have any bearing on being a good coach though. The game is littered with top players who failed spectacularly as coaches. Managers like Mourinho and Wenger who never achieved as players compared to Roy Keane, Stuart Pearce and the like prove the point. We have Ledley at the club but I think in his case he was a very intuitive and spontaneous player. Having players with the ability not only to play, but to listen and understand is the key and they are often not super stars. Brian Clough made a team full of very average players into European Champions.
 

Spurrific

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We just need better defenders (CB) that like to defend.

Imo our major concern is Vertonghen once we sort that out we will be much better. Vertonghen looks very uncomfortable defending if you ask me he isn't good in the air he can't tackle on the turn his not that quick but on the ball he looks fine.

Yeah. Our major concern in defence is Vertonghen. :dead:
 

dondo

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Jan 4, 2006
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We just need better defenders (CB) that like to defend.

Imo our major concern is Vertonghen once we sort that out we will be much better. Vertonghen looks very uncomfortable defending if you ask me he isn't good in the air he can't tackle on the turn his not that quick but on the ball he looks fine.


Agree with this vertonghon is massively overrated, he is an average defender , even someone like Reid is a much better defender
 

Blackcanary

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Jul 15, 2012
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Being a good player doesn't have any bearing on being a good coach though. The game is littered with top players who failed spectacularly as coaches. Managers like Mourinho and Wenger who never achieved as players compared to Roy Keane, Stuart Pearce and the like prove the point. We have Ledley at the club but I think in his case he was a very intuitive and spontaneous player. Having players with the ability not only to play, but to listen and understand is the key and they are often not super stars. Brian Clough made a team full of very average players into European Champions.

I meant more in terms of identifying the problem than anything else, really. :)
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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Agree with this vertonghon is massively overrated, he is an average defender , even someone like Reid is a much better defender
Reid would work well in a system like Chelsea's but with a high line, I can see him struggling
 

dontcallme

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Mar 18, 2005
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The 1st goal yesterday was ridiculous defending. Free kick to the front post and not a Chelsea player in sight. Rose heads the ball straight into the danger area.

Better awareness form Rose or a shout from another plyaer and it's easily dealt with.

2nd goal was a big deflection.

If the coaches want the full backs to constantly get forward then we're not going to have a solid defensive unit.

Come the summer I want our attacking options improved much more than the defence.
 

Japhet

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The 1st goal yesterday was ridiculous defending. Free kick to the front post and not a Chelsea player in sight. Rose heads the ball straight into the danger area.

Better awareness form Rose or a shout from another plyaer and it's easily dealt with.

2nd goal was a big deflection.

If the coaches want the full backs to constantly get forward then we're not going to have a solid defensive unit.

Come the summer I want our attacking options improved much more than the defence.



When Stambouli plays his first reaction when a back 4 player pushes on is to drop back and fill in. Apart from Capoue, none of our other CMs have that instinct. I've been saying it for ages, but I think a lot of our defensive frailties come from CM. We were shockingly bad in this respect when Sherwood was at the wheel.
 

chrissivad

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May 20, 2005
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The defence is looking much better than it has in the last 2 seasons. Still plenty to work on but we have a much better shape.

I dont think its helping when we want the fullbacks to push up the pitch to create some width that we dont have anyone in cm that will fill in if needed. With little protection from the wingers anyway (bar Lamela who does seem to try) we are still leaving big gaps that other players can run into.

Teams are no longer running through us for 90 mins, so i am happy with the way its going so far.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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We're not shambolic at the back. We play a high press, attacking game. Which makes us exciting going forward but does mean if we get caught on the ball upfield our defence will be vulnerable to counter attacks. It's the sacrifice you have to make if you want exciting football.
 

Gb160

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Seems to me that lately we're conceding goals caused by individual errors...a defensive coach can't do FA about that.
 
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