World Cup Discussion Thread - Day 15 (28 June)

[DFF]

Dier is better defensively, Henderson is better with the ball. If you’re playing one true CM ideally you want a combination of the two.

 

[HildoSpur]

Nobody is saying that but it's fair to say we've made it more difficult for ourselves facing Colombia. Then if we get through we could get Sweden, who will put up two banks of four and effectively say come on then, break us down. Yeah Brazil QF is tough, but no guarantees they will get through their R16 tie.

Not only that, but we've lost momentum now.

Sweden are a very good side.

 

[Gbspurs]

Drab

 

[Col_M]

Very deflating.

 

[SpursD22]

England will go out against Colombia and I will blame Southgate. Every tournament England have the same problem, being arrogant. It looks like England wanted to come second to avoid Brazil in a potential quarterfinals when they haven’t even played their round of 16 game. He’s killed the momentum and mentality of this team. Laugh at me if you want but it’s true. Idiotic from Southgate

 

[mark87]

Just got in. Did we play shit?

 

[Krule]

So Southgate learns that he can't rely on anyone outside his first 11, save possibly Rose. Must be comforting.

Was just going to say ...what positives will Southgate take from this match ??...None that I can see....

 

[gilzeantheking]

England have reverted to type..........................What a surprise.

 

[vicbob]

It’s 7 games ffs, win them all and you win the cup. Stop trying to be clever

 

[tototoner]

Good result for England

 

[Johnny J]

People are not being arrogant! Objectively, finishing second is the preferred route. That’s not saying we’ll do it, BUT it does look easier. It’s just a fact. Brazil would be harder to play than Switzerland for example.

But you can only take each game as it comes. Brazil haven't been amazing so far.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

So Southgate learns that he can't rely on anyone outside his first 11, save possibly Rose. Must be comforting.

He should have known that by now...

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

It's coming home

 

[Ekmek]

Ok so England will be eliminated from this World Cup by Sweden.

 

[Marty]

Southgate's got himself into the position where if we don't reach the semis the knives will be out, which was unthinkable before the tournament started.

That wasn't a good move. A loss with dignity and there would be decent goodwill. This wasn't a loss with dignity.

 

[HildoSpur]

England will go out against Colombia and I will blame Southgate. Every tournament England have the same problem, being arrogant. It looks like England wanted to come second to avoid Brazil in a potential quarterfinals when they haven’t even played their round of 16 game. He’s killed the momentum and mentality of this team. Laugh at me if you want but it’s true. Idiotic from Southgate

I 100% agree. Really hope I'm wrong but you can see it happening.

 

[SdB]

Dier is better defensively, Henderson is better with the ball. If you’re playing one true CM ideally you want a combination of the two.

Dier is so slow, let's players run behind him but the worst thing is that he shown nothing when with the ball.
A few seasons back he looked like he was going to be a top player. He looks plain ordinary now.

 

[lukadownthelane]

Do itv ever show an England win?

 

[HildoSpur]

Ok so England will be eliminated from this World Cup by Sweden.

Columbia you mean?

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

England will go out against Colombia and I will blame Southgate. Every tournament England have the same problem, being arrogant. It looks like England wanted to come second to avoid Brazil in a potential quarterfinals when they haven’t even played their round of 16 game. He’s killed the momentum and mentality of this team. Laugh at me if you want but it’s true. Idiotic from Southgate

I don't think we'll lose to Colombia but Southgate's needlessly made the next game much more difficult than he needed to