WTF Happened To Robbo

[Bill_Oddie]

The swerving ball issue quite simply cannot be over-stated. It is critical.

However, it can't be mere coincidence that the balls have become progressively more difficult to deal with at exactly the same rate as Robbo's form has dipped. I don't hold that it is an irreversible dip, but there is a serious problem there.

I think the art of goalkeeping is changing. The game is less geared towards Robbos strengths as a keeper now. Although his long balls will be even more difficult to deal with for defenders. Plus, there are going to be loads more goals and especially loads more long range goals.

That doesn't mean they are forgiveable but it does mean that the goalkeeper has to be mentally strong enough to deal with these set-backs. Between the sticks is such a confidence driven position and I'm not 100% satisfied that Robbo's where he should be confidence wise (mainly since the ****s in the media use him a figure of fun - hugely unfairly) and hence replacing him is necessary.

It just isn't as simple as 'give him the number 1 jersey and he'll get his confidence and then his form back'. He WILL let in goals. All keepers do. But what will then happen is that he WON'T feel the confidence to come for crosses and bawl out defenders, which is really just as critical as being able to stop 30-yard screamers.


It is very unsurprising that Gomes appears to be top of our wanted list. As with the bloke who ditches his blonde-haired, busty girlfriend for a quiet, mousy type, football teams often go for replacements that are polar opposites of what they currently have. And if there's one thing Gomes is, it's confident. Bordering on arrogant, some might say.

 

[spurslenny]

I don't remember a moment lasting for 2 seasons.

just to use a golf analogy for a mo
lee westward went off the boil for about 2 years and in the last year or so managed to regain his form.
european order of merit winner and 3rd in the us open

everyones form fluctuates from time to time, no one had a problem with robbo before he lost a bit of confidence, which probably started on england duty in croatia.
on top of that, as someone else has already said, he's had to play with about 14 different CB pairings in front of him.

its all irrelevent now anyway, as it looks like he will probably be offloaded

 

[PT]

its all irrelevent now anyway, as it looks like he will probably be offloaded

Having said that Lenny, it's the press that have contributed most to his loss of confidence. Ramos has put him back in the side and no-one at Spurs has publically said he's not wanted.

Don't be surprised if Robbo still wears the gloves next season.

 

[spurslenny]

Having said that Lenny, it's the press that have contributed most to his loss of confidence. Ramos has put him back in the side and no-one at Spurs has publically said he's not wanted.

Don't be surprised if Robbo still wears the gloves next season.

thought i'd read that Dan had said ramos had lost patience with robbo,
i may of dreamt it though

 

[Michey]

Don't be surprised if Robbo still wears the gloves next season.

He might - but luckily not for us.

Why are you still even discussing this?

 

[spurslenny]

cos i'm bored, waiting for the next signing to happen

why are you even reading this?

 

[MendD3]

Can't see how Cech is the best keeper of his generation. Having Terry Carvalho Makelele in front of you helps. When Makelele stopped getting played and Terry got injured he looked average at times, Casillas has had a awful defence in front of him and has all ways looked consistently good, but for me Buffon is still the worlds best.

To be fair I won't pass judgement on Robbo until he (if he gets the chance) starts making mistakes after 10 games with King and Woodgate in front of him. What I have seen of Gomes I would rather have Robbo and Coupet.

 

[Yid-ol]

Can't see how Cech is the best keeper of his generation. Having Terry Carvalho Makelele in front of you helps. When Makelele stopped getting played and Terry got injured he looked average at times, Casillas has had a awful defence in front of him and has all ways looked consistently good, but for me Buffon is still the worlds best.

To be fair I won't pass judgement on Robbo until he (if he gets the chance) starts making mistakes after 10 games with King and Woodgate in front of him. What I have seen of Gomes I would rather have Robbo and Coupet.

As much as i hate Terry, when ever he isnt in the cheasle line up they look alot weaker at the back, CHelsea just have such a good back line that they could probably play a sunday league goalkeeper at times in goals and still make him look world class! Totaly diffrent from the situation we have with out defending (not just defenders but midfielders and set plays always)

 

[SpurSince57]

Can't see how Cech is the best keeper of his generation. Having Terry Carvalho Makelele in front of you helps. When Makelele stopped getting played and Terry got injured he looked average at times, Casillas has had a awful defence in front of him and has all ways looked consistently good, but for me Buffon is still the worlds best.

To be fair I won't pass judgement on Robbo until he (if he gets the chance) starts making mistakes after 10 games with King and Woodgate in front of him. What I have seen of Gomes I would rather have Robbo and Coupet.

I've seen him play several times this season and except for his worryingly flappy moments against us in Eindhoven he's looked top-drawer. Clean sheets in 60% of games, 24 goals conceded all season—you can't argue with that. And they've usually got two of the Seven Dwarves at CB.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I disagree with people blaming the media for Robinsons lack of confidence. Robinson actually got a pretty soft ride from themedia considering the amount of blunders he regularly made over the last 2/3 years. David James was absoloutely vilified by the press and given the nickname Calamity James which stuck and hounded him for years. Despite this he always maintained form. He would and will continue to drop the odd bollock but his strengths always remained. Robinson by comparison has got away very lightly, with very little notice of the major weaknesses in his game or almost weekly errors. And if it weren't for his "rapport" with the fans, I think most spurs fans would have started to realise a lot sooner that he actually is just a poor keeper.

 

[gibbs131]

Can't see how Cech is the best keeper of his generation. Having Terry Carvalho Makelele in front of you helps. When Makelele stopped getting played and Terry got injured he looked average at times, Casillas has had a awful defence in front of him and has all ways looked consistently good, but for me Buffon is still the worlds best.

To be fair I won't pass judgement on Robbo until he (if he gets the chance) starts making mistakes after 10 games with King and Woodgate in front of him. What I have seen of Gomes I would rather have Robbo and Coupet.

Buffon is mustard. But I still think Cech is more gifted. Buffon can suffer from a rush of blood compared to Cech. I also think Cech is braver in the crunch.

 

[gibbs131]

Having said that Lenny, it's the press that have contributed most to his loss of confidence. Ramos has put him back in the side and no-one at Spurs has publically said he's not wanted.

Don't be surprised if Robbo still wears the gloves next season.

Villa are currently linked. I think Robbos wages will price him out of 90% of interested parties.

In fact, I think he will stay because of his price to form ratio.

 

[PT]

I disagree with people blaming the media for Robinsons lack of confidence. Robinson actually got a pretty soft ride from themedia considering the amount of blunders he regularly made over the last 2/3 years. David James was absoloutely vilified by the press and given the nickname Calamity James which stuck and hounded him for years. Despite this he always maintained form. He would and will continue to drop the odd bollock but his strengths always remained. Robinson by comparison has got away very lightly, with very little notice of the major weaknesses in his game or almost weekly errors. And if it weren't for his "rapport" with the fans, I think most spurs fans would have started to realise a lot sooner that he actually is just a poor keeper.

Robbo got stiffed by our press for that fliuke goal away to Croatia. In contrast that twat of a right back, even though he is just about worthy by default of all those England caps, Gary Neville, got away with his suicidal back pass aimed centrally between the sticks - a full back no-no.

If Robinson is susceptable to dodgy nerves and lost confidence and form, vicious circle stuff, then questions have to be asked how he got to the top.

If a new goalkeeping coach and a new line-up in front of him gives him back that confidence, I say again, we may not need to spend £10 mill on a new number one, more like £3 mill on a number two.

But what do I know? (Just fighting his corner!! :razz

 

[Kendall]

I felt Robbo had lost it way before that Neville goal

 

[nidge]

Buffon is mustard. But I still think Cech is more gifted. Buffon can suffer from a rush of blood compared to Cech. I also think Cech is braver in the crunch.

Cech may have been brave before getting kicked in his head but, since then he has had a few dodgy moment when confronted with a situation that might see him get hurt. Since that incident against Reading I don't think he is the same keeper and to be fair who can blame him.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Robbo got stiffed by our press for that fliuke goal away to Croatia. In contrast that twat of a right back, even though he is just about worthy by default of all those England caps, Gary Neville, got away with his suicidal back pass aimed centrally between the sticks - a full back no-no.

If Robinson is susceptable to dodgy nerves and lost confidence and form, vicious circle stuff, then questions have to be asked how he got to the top.

If a new goalkeeping coach and a new line-up in front of him gives him back that confidence, I say again, we may not need to spend £10 mill on a new number one, more like £3 mill on a number two.

But what do I know? (Just fighting his corner!! :razz

But why are you fighting his corner ? Did you fight Kasey Keller's corner as vigorously ?

Has Robinson ever been commanding ? Did he used to catch where now he punches ?

I accept that no goalkeeper's goal ratio will look good behind a poor defence but - and I know I was in a minority - I was pointing out problems with Robbo long before the Croatia game or even the previous season when he was behind the best defence we had had for years - salty, lee, King and a very defensive midfield.

Robinson has the worst shots to goals ratio and we as a team don't have the highest amount of shots conceded.

With Leeds he conceded the most amount of goals ever.

Coincidences ?

 

[PT]

But why are you fighting his corner ? Did you fight Kasey Keller's corner as vigorously ?

Has Robinson ever been commanding ? Did he used to catch where now he punches ?

I accept that no goalkeeper's goal ratio will look good behind a poor defence but - and I know I was in a minority - I was pointing out problems with Robbo long before the Croatia game or even the previous season when he was behind the best defence we had had for years - salty, lee, King and a very defensive midfield.

Robinson has the worst shots to goals ratio and we as a team don't have the highest amount of shots conceded.

With Leeds he conceded the most amount of goals ever.

Coincidences ?

To be fair to Robbo, leeds were spiralling downwards anyway.

Let's just say I won't be disappointed if he stays and fights for his place. As I said, he didn't win his England caps based on being the best of the worst.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

To be fair to Robbo, leeds were spiralling downwards anyway.

Let's just say I won't be disappointed if he stays and fights for his place. As I said, he didn't win his England caps based on being the best of the worst.

That is exactly what he did do though isn't it. Who was his competition ?

 

[gibbs131]

Cech may have been brave before getting kicked in his head but, since then he has had a few dodgy moment when confronted with a situation that might see him get hurt. Since that incident against Reading I don't think he is the same keeper and to be fair who can blame him.

His first game back from injury he wobbled and let 2 goals in. After that he went 810 minutes of Premiership play without conceding a goal. He was in TOP form.

He has an overall record where he did not concede a goal for over 1000 minutes, eclipsing Peter Schmeichel's record.

You have to remember he is still in his 20's. He has a RELATIVE horrible season because of injuries, and he STILL was amazing. So in adversity he can still be magnificent. In adversity Robbo just shouts at Ramos, storms off and stuffs his face in the pub.

 

[That Guy]

But why are you fighting his corner ?

The question is not why are we backing him so much, it's why the hell do Spurs fans feel the need to criticize someone who clearly loves the club and the fans.

If someone was to say they think we should get in Gomes because he's a better keeper, I have no problem with that. I have no problem with people that say he's been playing poorly for 2 years now.

My problem is with comments such as 'Good riddance', and people who are totally unwilling to accept any 'excuse' for why his form may have dipped. It's simply 'he's shit lets get rid'.

I feel the same way towards the idiots that came out saying we should sell Berbatov when he hadn't scored for a few games, and then his 'flaws' are what he is as a player. Lazy, arrogant, doesn't care etc. Not that he's a brilliant striker not in form.:roll:

To be fair I used to be like it with players like Atouba. The thing Spurs fans should remember is that nothing good comes from getting on players backs and slagging them off. I'm tired of players being used as scapegoats. We didn't finish 11th because we had Paul Robinson in goal, or because Aaron Lennon can't cross, or because Jemaine Jenas can't pass. We finished in that position because collectively we weren't good enough as a team.