Xherdan Shaqiri

[TheAmerican]

Didn't shaqiri get injured and yes he's struggled to get in the bayern Munich team but who in our team would get in bayern? I know this is all opinions but come on people this guy is a brilliant player and would be first on my team sheet if this was even possible.cannot understand this nonsense about only turning it on for CH. Imo he would make as much of an impact for us as Sanchez has for .....

I would have to disagree. He has an attitude that will prevent him from ever being a top player. He should be showing maturity in his game by his age (proper amount of first team football and talent-nurturing environment), and he simply hasn't. He will be a good counter-attacking threat for a mid-table club in the EPL, or a team in the Serie A. I don't think he will make the next step.

 

[Lufti]

Granted recently he has been playing CAM but the best I have seen of him for Switzerland during the build up to the world cup was when he ether switched mid game or started on the left. I was not implying that he starts every game on the left as he is utilised all across the front three, which is one of the big pros of getting him. Also his best performances for BM this season on the rare occasions he has started have come from him playing on the left. Ether way we do not have the luxury of buying high end players so we have to look for the ones that have potential, experience and are not too expensive. Shaqiri is not the finished product and maybe is not the perfect player but he offers something different, dosn't cost the world and he is within our range. He also still has the potential to become a top player in the right team. Okay, he is a bit short but what does that matter, he still has a heavy build for his size so wont get brushed off the ball easily, he looks like a pitbull. Personally i think a midfield selection of Eriksen, Chadli, Lamela, Pritchard, Shaqiri and Andros would be pretty tasty and have a bit of everything. Anyway, seems like any links we had with him have dried up so i'm sure he wont be coming.

We'll have to agree to disagree, and sorry but you're wrong about him for Switzerland, he hasn't started on the left at least in the last two/three years.

He's a 1 in 3 games player, and that's not what we need but regardless, we're not going to get him as it doesn't look like we're actually in for him, sorry chaps

 

[Ghost Hardware]

We'll have to agree to disagree, and sorry but you're wrong about him for Switzerland, he hasn't started on the left at least in the last two/three years.

He's a 1 in 3 games player, and that's not what we need but regardless, we're not going to get him as it doesn't look like we're actually in for him, sorry chaps

Agreed, or rather disagreed. Which ever one it is.

Out of curiosity, who would you like us to get for the attacking midfield?

 

[Lufti]

Agreed, or rather disagreed. Which ever one it is.

Out of curiosity, who would you like us to get for the attacking midfield?

I actually think that's the last position we need other than GK. If we were going to get someone to play in the three then for me it would have be someone who offers some different, preferably natural width so that we could vary our style for different games. Even though it's unlikely I'd like Milner. But for me we should sign players for these positions (in order): CM, ST, CB. I'm not actually too worried about our current list of CBs, cause I actually think Dier looks good, but the fact that Poch doesn't seem to want to rotate Dier in other competitions means I suspect we might need another who he trusts more. But we definitely need a CM and ST imo, and I'd take Rodriguez in the summer if possible

 

[poc]

I would have to disagree. He has an attitude that will prevent him from ever being a top player. He should be showing maturity in his game by his age (proper amount of first team football and talent-nurturing environment), and he simply hasn't. He will be a good counter-attacking threat for a mid-table club in the EPL, or a team in the Serie A. I don't think he will make the next step.

I just don't get what you base this on. He is at the possibly premier European club, was injured struggled to get extended runs in the team and subsequently cant establish himself.

I guess we just have to disagree then to me this guy is the world class 10 we have been crying out for.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Must admit I haven't seen much of him, but what I have seen I thought was impressive

If Liverpool are getting him for £10m that looks a bargain to me

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

If Kane's form dropped off or he got a long lay off, would Berahino be able to step in and lead the line? I don't think so..

As much as a bonus Kane has been for us, I still believe a Bony or Benteke type, is more like the kind of player we should be after.
If we could do some kind of deal of Lennon and Townsend for Berahino, I'd happily take him because we could still go in for Shaqiri and a central defender (possibly Vlaar on the cheap) as long as we can offload Kaboul, Naughton and Paulinho.

He's actually quite physically strong for his size, his hold up play is quite good also. That's where he's different to Defoe.

 

[TheAmerican]

I just don't get what you base this on. He is at the possibly premier European club, was injured struggled to get extended runs in the team and subsequently cant establish himself.

I guess we just have to disagree then to me this guy is the world class 10 we have been crying out for.

He has had plenty of opportunities at Bayern, and he has failed to make an impression during them. He is too selfish and he has failed to adapt his play to Pep's system. He expects to be a star. He hasn't been shut out for injury problems, it has been poor performances when played and a poor attitude when not.

 

[Lufti]

I just don't get what you base this on. He is at the possibly premier European club, was injured struggled to get extended runs in the team and subsequently cant establish himself.

I guess we just have to disagree then to me this guy is the world class 10 we have been crying out for.

He's a worse player than Eriksen, who is also a year younger than him. I'd be very shocked if Shaqiri managed to match let alone better Eriksen's performances here.

I think this is a classic case of a shiny foreign player seeming better than what we've already got

 

[poc]

He's a worse player than Eriksen, who is also a year younger than him. I'd be very shocked if Shaqiri managed to match let alone better Eriksen's performances here.

I think this is a classic case of a shiny foreign player seeming better than what we've already got

Absolute nonsense but your entitled to it

 

[poc]

He has had plenty of opportunities at Bayern, and he has failed to make an impression during them. He is too selfish and he has failed to adapt his play to Pep's system. He expects to be a star. He hasn't been shut out for injury problems, it has been poor performances when played and a poor attitude when not.

How may consecutive gAmes has he started? He is almost always a sub. Or at least that was my understandingaybe someone who watches DE football can tell me I'm wrong and he's actually a regular starter and got 15 games straight?

 

[Lufti]

Absolute nonsense but your entitled to it

Mate, considering you're calling him the world class no. 10 we've been looking for when he's predominately a winger, you can call my posts nonsense until the sun goes down, I wont lose too much sleep over it

 

[TheAmerican]

How may consecutive gAmes has he started? He is almost always a sub. Or at least that was my understandingaybe someone who watches DE football can tell me I'm wrong and he's actually a regular starter and got 15 games straight?

He isn't good enough to start at Bayern, and his poor performances for the side when he is played is not helping him displace any player.

Most bayern fans I've talked with tend to agree with this view

From one particular fan:

"I know he hasn't gotten much game time, but when he plays, there's barely anything memorable about his performance apart from some nice passes and a good run from time to time. However, most of the time it is very frustrating to watch. Very often, when we're starting an attack and he gets a ball, I know nothing is going to happen. He dribbles past a few players which is okay, but instead of doing something productive, he either shoots from unreasonable positions (which is especially annoying when there are 4 players in a better position), or continues dribbling until he loses the ball or finds himself in a position where all he can do is a back pass. This happens from time to time for other players too. But with him, it happens way too often. Some may say this is only linked to the fact that he doesn't play enough to get a good run of form. However, this isn't how things work at a big club. If you get opportunities but don't show your quality, that's it."

In 2012/13, he did get quite a few runs in games, and he had a decent season. But, even then, he only had 4 goals and 6 assists in 1,374 minutes of gameplay. That's only a goal or assist in 1.5 games in a Bayern side that scored 98 goals and finished on 99 points (second was 66 pts).

 

[poc]

Mate, considering you're calling him the world class no. 10 we've been looking for when he's predominately a winger, you can call my posts nonsense until the sun goes down, I wont lose too much sleep over it

You can play people where you like, I see him as a creative 10 type of player if he is classed as a winger for club and country fine but I think if you read whats been said already he tends to drift inside and try to play as focal point up top but anyway you think he aint all that I think he is a great player who isn't getting a chance to establish himself at BM. If he goes to Liverpool I guess we will find out eh.

 

[poc]

He isn't good enough to start at Bayern, and his poor performances for the side when he is played is not helping him displace any player.

Most bayern fans I've talked with tend to agree with this view

From one particular fan:

"I know he hasn't gotten much game time, but when he plays, there's barely anything memorable about his performance apart from some nice passes and a good run from time to time. However, most of the time it is very frustrating to watch. Very often, when we're starting an attack and he gets a ball, I know nothing is going to happen. He dribbles past a few players which is okay, but instead of doing something productive, he either shoots from unreasonable positions (which is especially annoying when there are 4 players in a better position), or continues dribbling until he loses the ball or finds himself in a position where all he can do is a back pass. This happens from time to time for other players too. But with him, it happens way too often. Some may say this is only linked to the fact that he doesn't play enough to get a good run of form. However, this isn't how things work at a big club. If you get opportunities but don't show your quality, that's it."

In 2012/13, he did get quite a few runs in games, and he had a decent season. But, even then, he only had 4 goals and 6 assists in 1,374 minutes of gameplay. That's only a goal or assist in 1.5 games in a Bayern side that scored 98 goals and finished on 99 points (second was 66 pts).

"I know he hasn't gotten much game time

 

[TheAmerican]

"I know he hasn't gotten much game time

Not getting game time because he is not good enough. I don't know how else to approach this discussion.

 

[Lufti]

You can play people where you like, I see him as a creative 10 type of player if he is classed as a winger for club and country fine but I think if you read whats been said already he tends to drift inside and try to play as focal point up top but anyway you think he aint all that I think he is a great player who isn't getting a chance to establish himself at BM. If he goes to Liverpool I guess we will find out eh.

Well regardless of whether I think he's great or not, I'm still scared that he'd take off at Liverpool - would be just my (and Tottenham)'s luck!

Out of curiosity, if you don't watch German football but think he's world class, where are you getting that from? His performances for Switzerland? Cause if so Sigurdsson looks world class for Iceland as does Dos Santos for Mexico..

 

[poc]

I don't watch much DE football but when he plays he is a certain type of player nothing like Sigurdsson, you could make some slight comparisons to GDS but Bayern didn't buy GDS they bought Shaqiri because in the CL he looked the bollox playing for Basel. He is also as strong as an Ox isn't he named the Cube or something in DE? He to me is much more like a Hazard and with a run in a team where they want him I think he could be that good at least.

 

[poc]

Not getting game time because he is not good enough. I don't know how else to approach this discussion.

I would say you cannot judge till you get game time. It is easy to get lost a top club take VDV at Madrid was he shit? Anyway I am done, you think he's overrated and I do not.

 

[Gbspurs]

Nobody wanted Coutinho or Sturridge either when Liverpool snapped up those 2 in January.

We won't sign him anyway.