Michael Dawson

[haxman]

Wouldn't Stoke RFC be a better option for him as he is so good at finding the touchline with long aimless kicks from deep

Only joking of course. Will be sad to see him go, very solid defender who always gave 100% for us.

 

[SugarRay]

I thought Newcastle might be all over this, although he could be a touch expensive for them. They need centre halves.

 

[lenny7]

I'm just not sure how AvB can make the call on such a senior player without actually seeing him in the team in a competitive game. Especially given that you can say the same for Verts. Very odd.

 

[Mullers]

curious now he is available only QPR are showing interest, good brave CB who has strikers who are aerial threats in his pocket everytime

Liverpool were rumoured to be interested, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think Drogba only scored once in the whole of his prem career when Dawson played and that was the 5-0 in the FA semis.

 

[sam1972]

I'm just not sure how AvB can make the call on such a senior player without actually seeing him in the team in a competitive game. Especially given that you can say the same for Verts. Very odd.

You're 10000000000000000000000% correct
until someone has watched a player as a manager he has no preconceptions about them.
It's not like AVB was a scout for, I don't know, lets say Chelsea.

 

[Mullers]

I'm just not sure how AvB can make the call on such a senior player without actually seeing him in the team in a competitive game. Especially given that you can say the same for Verts. Very odd.

Are you implying this was Levy's call?

 

[lenny7]

You're 10000000000000000000000% correct
until someone has watched a player as a manager he has no preconceptions about them.
It's not like AVB was a scout for, I don't know, lets say Chelsea.

Not really what I'm getting at. Squad and fringe players I can understand getting shown the door, but someone who I'd consider a first-team regular not even getting much of a look-in and sold on, even before we've seen Verts in the Prem, we're short on CB's and Gallas isn't getting any younger. Strikes me as an odd decision to make given that we now only have a matter of days to get a replacement in, which I think we will need to as we were light on bodies at CB even before all this. AvB may have been a scout at Chelsea, but I doubt they had much of a look at Dawson while he was there and if he did, I doubt it would have been the basis for any decision to sell him. His comments about not wanting to play Sandro at the weekend due to not seeing him play properly have further confused this for me too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not on an AvB attack here, I just think this is a very strange call.

Are you implying this was Levy's call?

Not at all, I have no idea who's decision it was, just I find it a very odd one given his standing in the team (former captain and vice-captain, also touted by AVB as a potential captain) and we probably need to keep hold of our CB's at the mo.

 

[Spursking]

With the sales of Bassong and Dawson for decent transfer fee's, there should not be any problems with signing a replacement. I don't know if we will sign a new defender, tough. It is exciting to see how Levy and co deal with the transfers, as we actually have done some great business.

Looking forward to seeing some more players in now...

 

[Mullers]

Not really what I'm getting at. Squad and fringe players I can understand getting shown the door, but someone who I'd consider a first-team regular not even getting much of a look-in and sold on, even before we've seen Verts in the Prem, we're short on CB's and Gallas isn't getting any younger. Strikes me as an odd decision to make given that we now only have a matter of days to get a replacement in, which I think we will need to as we were light on bodies at CB even before all this.


Not at all, I have no idea who's decision it was, just I find it a very odd one given his standing in the team (former captain and vice-captain, also touted by AVB as a potential captain) and we probably need to keep hold of our CB's at the mo.

I think it was between him and Gallas who goes, Gallas I think will be gone next season, Dawson 28, coming into the latter stages of his career not really pushing for a first team place, he probably thought this is the best time to cash in on him. As for Verts, from what I understand AVB does a lot of research on players and watches a lot of football, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that he would have seen him play a number of times already.

 

[lenny7]

I think it was between him and Gallas who goes, Gallas I think will be gone next season, Dawson 28, coming into the latter stages of his career not really pushing for a first team place, he probably thought this is the best time to cash in on him. As for Verts, from what I understand AVB does a lot of research on players and watches a lot of football, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that he would have seen him play a number of times already.

I do not doubt that the man does a lot of research on players, probably like Maureen has many a meticulously compiled dossier on teams, players and managers etc, but then I don't think that will tell you how well anyone is going to play in a different league. We've seen it before many a time, big players that have been relentlessly scouted and phenomenal talents in their respective leagues move clubs and flop. I'm not saying that will happen with Verts, but there's a chance it will, and if there is that chance, then why take the gamble, and why make the statement that he'll be 3rd choice behind Verts without actually seeing them both in this team in competitive games?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Liverpool were rumoured to be interested, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think Drogba only scored once in the whole of his prem career when Dawson played and that was the 5-0 in the FA semis.

He skanked a befuddled Dawson two season's ago at the Lane and whacked it past Gomes.

 

[danielneeds]

He skanked a befuddled Dawson two season's ago at the Lane and whacked it past Gomes.

Wonderful case of "BC-Vision" again. An alternate descirption was that Drogba got a lucky bounce when the ball came off his or Dawson's shoulder and hit a weak shot which went through Gomes. But, yeah, don't let it spoil your narrative.

One player who did always own Dawson though was our own Ade. Let's hope that continues when we play QPR this year.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I think there are some who are really struggling to come to terms with the truth. Even last season, he was fourth choice most of the time when all a viable behind Kaboul, King & Gallas.

And that was a struggling king and an injury plagued, ageing Gallas. Hardly a ringing endorsement.

Seriously, it is much better for him that he finds his level and gets some regular football. I would never question his bravery or effort and he deserves to be playing not moping around in the hospitality suite on a match day.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Wonderful case of "BC-Vision" again. An alternate descirption was that Drogba got a lucky bounce when the ball came off his or Dawson's shoulder and hit a weak shot which went through Gomes. But, yeah, don't let it spoil your narrative.

One player who did always own Dawson though was our own Ade. Let's hope that continues when we play QPR this year.

It wasn't just a lucky bounce, Drogba bullied Dawson out of an ariel challenge and while Dawson was doing the cartoon look in all directions where's the ball gone thing Drogba was on it and in on goal. This is not a dig at Dawson, Drogba has done that to many (I remember him giving Senderos a right going over one game) and better players than Dawson - he is the arch bully. But that is what happened.

But let's not pretend that only world class players have made Dawson look less than good. Players like Nial Rainger and Darren Beckford have made him look clumsy. If that was Bassong it would have never been forgiven or conveniently forgotten as it frequently is with Dawson's.

 

[Spursking]

It is the right thing to do. Cash in on Dawson when he is 28 years old. Not bad at all. It is great, and for the combined transfer fee's of Bassong and Dawson, we can re-invest.....

 

[Mullers]

I do not doubt that the man does a lot of research on players, probably like Maureen has many a meticulously compiled dossier on teams, players and managers etc, but then I don't think that will tell you how well anyone is going to play in a different league. We've seen it before many a time, big players that have been relentlessly scouted and phenomenal talents in their respective leagues move clubs and flop. I'm not saying that will happen with Verts, but there's a chance it will, and if there is that chance, then why take the gamble, and why make the statement that he'll be 3rd choice behind Verts without actually seeing them both in this team in competitive games?

I guess he thinks it's worth the gamble and doesn't rate Dawson, for what it's worth I don't agree with telling anyone they are first, second, third choice etc. I think nobody should be sure of their place in the team.

 

[lenny7]

I guess he thinks it's worth the gamble and doesn't rate Dawson, for what it's worth I don't agree with telling anyone they are first, second, third choice etc. I think nobody should be sure of their place in the team.

Absolutely. And I think when a new manager comes in, generally you get that bit at the start where everyone gets a go in the team, like you say, a slate wiped clean sort of situation, which I don't think has really happened here except in the case of Gio, which I don't know whether that's just paper talk, but it seems even more odd that you'd have different logic for different players.

I think this is a similar situation to Carroll up at Liverpool, I just don't see how, without even being in the job 10mins just came out with how he doesn't think Carroll fits the team and he'll probably be moved on, despite the fact that Lolopool have as few strikers as even us and their chairman doesn't look like he wants to spend any money. Pretty baffling for the onlooker.

 

[bomberH]

Whether people think he's good enough for Spurs or not, he's far too good for QPR. I honestly think he'd be a big success at Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton, Villa etc. Even a couple of my gooner mates said they'd sign him up.

I love Daws. He may not be the most technically gifted player but he was someone (most of) the fans took to because he always gave 100% and never worried about getting his face kicked in when going in for a challenge. And as has been said a thousand times, he always comes across as a top bloke, which isn't really the norm with footballers nowadays. He seems the sort of person who'd give you a handjob if you asked nicely and he'd wait for well over 25 minutes, even if he was in a rush, for you to splooge.

Good luck and cheers Mr Dawson. Will always remember having an angry discussion with someone in the Park Lane whose sense of humour seemed to have left him when I pointed out there wasn't only one Michael Dawson, as the black guy in Lost was also called Michael Dawson. "What's Lost" was his angry reply, followed by "Get behind your team".

 

[Mullers]

Absolutely. And I think when a new manager comes in, generally you get that bit at the start where everyone gets a go in the team, like you say, a slate wiped clean sort of situation, which I don't think has really happened here except in the case of Gio, which I don't know whether that's just paper talk, but it seems even more odd that you'd have different logic for different players.

I think this is a similar situation to Carroll up at Liverpool, I just don't see how, without even being in the job 10mins just came out with how he doesn't think Carroll fits the team and he'll probably be moved on, despite the fact that Lolopool have as few strikers as even us and their chairman doesn't look like he wants to spend any money. Pretty baffling for the onlooker.

He said he was going to use preseason games to look at the player situation, that's really his best opportunity to look at players he wants and doesn't want and he seems to have taken it.

 

[kitchen]

It is the right thing to do. Cash in on Dawson when he is 28 years old. Not bad at all. It is great, and for the combined transfer fee's of Bassong and Dawson, we can re-invest.....

This is probably the most sensible thing you've ever written on this site!

What do those dot dot dots imply though???