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[Disco]

No, if Agne had taken a team like Hearts and won them the title, then I would be 100% onboard. Wouldn’t care about the standard of the league or his previous CV because it would be hugely impressive, his nationality isn’t important.

However we have gambled on someone that has achieved the norm, Celtic have won 5 trebles in 6 seasons.

While others find his shouting at players to be some new ingenious tactic, I find it to be dated and I don’t think top quality Premier League players will respond to it.

I don’t actively want him to fail, I hope he proves me and others wrong, but in the end its not even his fault, if we do fail then the blame has to be on Levy.

Didn't Celtic lose the title by like 25 plus points the season before Ange and lose both cups?

 

[Kirito]

Didn't Celtic lose the title by like 25 plus points the season before Ange and lose both cups?

Celtic hold the world record for domestic trebles, lets not cherry pick one season to act like miracles were performed.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

You are spot on and we will need very good defenders to compensate. Something the board must deliver if we are to have any chance.

Exactly! Thing which confuses me a little is I saw numerous people saying Enrique would be a bad fit because of the lack of players needed to make his system work. It’s the exact same thing with Ange yet nobody mentions it.

I’m extremely sceptical about him and not convinced like many are here, but given the right tools he’s obviously proved to some degree he can be successful. As the post you quoted says his defence is just not a strong suit. If it’s going to work it’s imperative we have an extremely good window because the team we have currently will get torn apart imo.

Really, now this decision has been made Levy and Munn are going to have to fully commit financially if this has any chance of working. If they don’t it will be a disaster but if they do it could be a success. Big IF tho as I can’t remember the last time Levy got a window spot on. Over to them now I guess.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

This is not the repeated joke passion video but a really interesting insight into how he prepared for the Celtic job. If you don’t watch it all, watch the first few minutes where he said he likes going into a situation where a team is coming to the end of a cycle and needs a rebuild as he can then imprint his style of play and way of working etc, very similar to the situation he is walking into with us.

 

[E17yid]

It’s so funny that an English coach has never even won the Premier League and yet we can still throw shade at someone for being Australian.

I don’t see many people throwing shade for him being Australian but the leagues and countries he has managed in.

He’s been coaching for almost 30 years. If after say 10 years he left Australia and went to manage a FC Twente/Sampdoria/Auxerre or even a club in one of Europes second tier divisions and done well people wouldn't care whether he was Australian or not.

I’ve seen people make comparisons with Poch and De Zerbi but Ange’s CV compared to Poch’s when he joined us and De Zerbi’s before joining Brighton, aren’t comparable imo.

From a cultural perspective I quite like the fact he’s Australian as I’m sure a lot of people will. Fluent in Australian so wil be able to understand most of what he says, Ozzies are generally seen as no nosense, say it how it is kind of people which will align with a lot of people over here but tbh I don’t know how much people really care about these things, they’re nice extras but we’re all fickle fuckers who want to see us win at the end of the day.

 

[mil1lion]

And the last time he stayed at a club team longer than 2 seasons was Brisbane Roar from 09-12. He might just not like committing to long term deals.

I think its more about his aspirations to move forward. We're talking about small clubs in small leagues here. He probably only has short term deals with plans to progress to bigger things.

 

[specspurs]

Exactly! Thing which confuses me a little is I saw numerous people saying Enrique would be a bad fit because of the lack of players needed to make his system work. It’s the exact same thing with Ange yet nobody mentions it.

I’m extremely sceptical about him and not convinced like many are here, but given the right tools he’s obviously proved to some degree he can be successful. As the post you quoted says his defence is just not a strong suit. If it’s going to work it’s imperative we have an extremely good window because the team we have currently will get torn apart imo.

Really, now this decision has been made Levy and Munn are going to have to fully commit financially if this has any chance of working. If they don’t it will be a disaster but if they do it could be a success. Big IF tho as I can’t remember the last time Levy got a window spot on. Over to them now I guess.

What a great post!

 

[hughy]

Even having been linked to him heavily for a couple of weeks I still feel I know very little about him. I'll be fully on board if it is Ange we appoint, however I'm a little bit nervous considering it's been a solid 16 years since we last appointed a manager I knew nothing about. Then again Ramos won us a trophy so maybe it's a good omen!

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Exactly! Thing which confuses me a little is I saw numerous people saying Enrique would be a bad fit because of the lack of players needed to make his system work. It’s the exact same thing with Ange yet nobody mentions it.

I’m extremely sceptical about him and not convinced like many are here, but given the right tools he’s obviously proved to some degree he can be successful. As the post you quoted says his defence is just not a strong suit. If it’s going to work it’s imperative we have an extremely good window because the team we have currently will get torn apart imo.

Really, now this decision has been made Levy and Munn are going to have to fully commit financially if this has any chance of working. If they don’t it will be a disaster but if they do it could be a success. Big IF tho as I can’t remember the last time Levy got a window spot on. Over to them now I guess.

If we sign Lenglet on a perm, we’ll need to sign at least 1 ideally 2 more top CB’s but also probably a left back.

That being said, Romero & Lenglet as ball playing CB’s in a possession based 4-3-3 would be quite tasty. It’s the full backs I’d worry about under Big Ange or L.Enriques 4-3-3’s.

 

[Flobadob]

So I have a Celtic mate (I know I know)..

He’s convinced a striker like Kane won’t work with Postecoglu’s system. Says he likes a fast, agile and hard working CF that will press like a maniac and we’d be better off selling him and building a young energetic front line. Will be interesting to find out what we do here

 

[danielneeds]

Got to be honest I've not seen hardly any of this on here, and in fact I think it's just becoming a generalisation thrown around at everyone who is not keen on him.

There is just a latent bias against countries that aren’t footballing powerhouses, though. I doubt the majority of fans have never seen ball kicked by either an Ange team or a Gallardo team, but because of the Argentinian tradition there is a bias.

 

[Albertbarich]

Celtic hold the world record for domestic trebles, lets not cherry pick one season to act like miracles were performed.

It's not a miracle but it's a fact that he took over a club miles behind its rivals with fans up in arms and directors quitting.

He built a whole new team in one summer and very very quickly moulded them into his own and surpassed his rivals..

Scotland is a shit league nobody is arguing that but he can only beat what's put in front of him and he's done that.

There is no doubt his system works as it's used by others. His man management works too , people like Joe Hart and Harry Kewell both of whom have played at the top will attest to it and he can get a huge fanbase onside.

I know he will need a strong backroom team to support and guide him, personally I'd love to see Mason and Wells stay on in prominent roles and someone like Chris Powell also brought in and I know of course the board need to back him but that would be the same for anyone.

He deserves a chance.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Even having been linked to him heavily for a couple of weeks I still feel I know very little about him. I'll be fully on board if it is Ange we appoint, however I'm a little bit nervous considering it's been a solid 16 years since we last appointed a manager I knew nothing about. Then again Ramos won us a trophy so maybe it's a good omen!

There’s a couple of good videos knocking about if you’re still not up to speed

 

[Disco]

Celtic hold the world record for domestic trebles, lets not cherry pick one season to act like miracles were performed.

You're the only one dropping mircle, nobody said such a thing.

But he didnt just walk into a business as usual situation. They had a poor season (from their standards) and he came in and won 5-6 trophies. He cant do much better.

Now by all means you can argue you like to see another step in his career before Spurs.....I'd probably tend to agree a lower team in a bigger league would be logical.

But i don't see what dimishing his achievements achieves.

 

[Kirito]

There is just a latent bias against countries that aren’t footballing powerhouses, though. I doubt the majority of fans have never seen ball kicked by either an Ange team or a Gallardo team, but because of the Argentinian tradition there is a bias.

The Argentinian league is ranked 11th in world football. SPL is 60th. Totally different standards

 

[worcestersauce]

If we sign Lenglet on a perm, we’ll need to sign at least 1 ideally 2 more top CB’s but also probably a left back.

That being said, Romero & Lenglet as ball playing CB’s in a possession based 4-3-3 would be quite tasty. It’s the full backs I’d worry about under Big Ange or L.Enriques 4-3-3’s.

I'm afraid I've seen nothing from Lenglet to recommend him to me, genuinely think we need better and can do better.

 

[danielneeds]

I don’t see many people throwing shade for him being Australian but the leagues and countries he has managed in.

He’s been coaching for almost 30 years. If after say 10 years he left Australia and went to manage a FC Twente/Sampdoria/Auxerre or even a club in one of Europes second tier divisions and done well people wouldn't care whether he was Australian or not.

I’ve seen people make comparisons with Poch and De Zerbi but Ange’s CV compared to Poch’s when he joined us and De Zerbi’s before joining Brighton, aren’t comparable imo.

From a cultural perspective I quite like the fact he’s Australian as I’m sure a lot of people will. Fluent in Australian so wil be able to understand most of what he says, Ozzies are generally seen as no nosense, say it how it is kind of people which will align with a lot of people over here but tbh I don’t know how much people really care about these things, they’re nice extras but we’re all fickle fuckers who want to see us win at the end of the day.

Aussie sporting culture is up there with any other country for sure. We could do with some no nonsense plain talking in the dressing room. Maybe not so much David Boon drinking 50 cans of lager on a flight back from India, but all the rest!

 

[danielneeds]

The Argentinian league is ranked 11th in world football. SPL is 60th. Totally different standards

And yet it’s not a hot bed of coaching talent when you look at coaches who’ve won there and gone on to be successful in Europe.

 

[AngryBob]

If we sign Lenglet on a perm, we’ll need to sign at least 1 ideally 2 more top CB’s but also probably a left back.

That being said, Romero & Lenglet as ball playing CB’s in a possession based 4-3-3 would be quite tasty. It’s the full backs I’d worry about under Big Ange or L.Enriques 4-3-3’s.

If we sign Lenglet on a perm, we're fucked.

 

[rabbikeane]

So I have a Celtic mate (I know I know)..

He’s convinced a striker like Kane won’t work with Postecoglu’s system. Says he likes a fast, agile and hard working CF that will press like a maniac and we’d be better off selling him and building a young energetic front line. Will be interesting to find out what we do here

Think Kane might be out of his hands any way. But yes, our stale immobile front line isn't perfect for I'm a hipster ball.
Not sure Kulusevski is ideal neither, would think he'd prefer quicker feet. It's no surprise he like Asian signings, they run their socks off.
He'd probably prefer Lee Kang-in