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only1waddle

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We have a sort of stockholm syndrome to mediocrity at this club.

It's very odd.

I think where we are in the food chain we have to accept some of our squad will be mediocre, the problem is these players currently seem to be inconsistent mediocre, not solid, makes me laugh when people say Milner is beneath us, he may not set the world alight but he rarely puts in a really poor display, i would take a few Milners over a few Lennon's.
We simply need a better balance, back up players for a Europa league team are never going to be world beaters, it's a real fine line and this is where a decent coach and some common sense plays it's role.
 

TheAmerican

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I think Townsend has the natural talent and he can be coached to improve.
He isn't a good decision maker. I don't think he has the highest football iq. IF he were to be coached to be a role player, doing one specific thing very well, I could see him becoming a good player. I think he would need every decision to be made for him though, he needs to have a gameplan that he cannot deviate from. I suspect that a strong manager could do this.
 

TheAmerican

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I think where we are in the food chain we have to accept some of our squad will be mediocre, the problem is these players currently seem to be inconsistent mediocre, not solid, makes me laugh when people say Milner is beneath us, he may not set the world alight but he rarely puts in a really poor display, i would take a few Milners over a few Lennon's.
We simply need a better balance, back up players for a Europa league team are never going to be world beaters, it's a real fine line and this is where a decent coach and some common sense plays it's role.
Milner is consistently average, with the odd game where he is poor.

Some of our players are consistently poor, with the odd game where they are average.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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We can win with some mediocre players, if they understand their specific role on the pitch, and give 100% effort towards that role. Where we get in trouble is when mediocre players don't understand their limitations or their role, and try to do more than they are capable of, or play outside their intended role (or are not given a limited role by the manager).
 

SpursDave88

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He isn't a good decision maker. I don't think he has the highest football iq. IF he were to be coached to be a role player, doing one specific thing very well, I could see him becoming a good player. I think he would need every decision to be made for him though, he needs to have a gameplan that he cannot deviate from. I suspect that a strong manager could do this.

I half agree, I could be wrong but I think decision making can be learned with time and practice. I know they are not of the same ability, but Mr. Ronaldo went from doing a million step overs in blind alleys to becoming a world beater.
 

TheAmerican

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I half agree, I could be wrong but I think decision making can be learned with time and practice. I know they are not of the same ability, but Mr. Ronaldo went from doing a million step overs in blind alleys to becoming a world beater.
That is what I am saying. If he were coached properly, he could become a fine player
 

mattyspurs

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I think where we are in the food chain we have to accept some of our squad will be mediocre, the problem is these players currently seem to be inconsistent mediocre, not solid, makes me laugh when people say Milner is beneath us, he may not set the world alight but he rarely puts in a really poor display, i would take a few Milners over a few Lennon's.
We simply need a better balance, back up players for a Europa league team are never going to be world beaters, it's a real fine line and this is where a decent coach and some common sense plays it's role.
I also think part of the problem with Dawson and Lennon, for me anyway, is that they may not be good enough anymore, but it's kinda hard to let go, I mean, they played a huge part in getting us from where we were, the beginnings of the Arneson/Jol era to where we are now. That involvement cannot be underestimated.

I feel like they deserve so much more for those reasons...bless them :(
 

yankspurs

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It's worrying that out of daws, naughton, rose and Townsend naughton has played better, for the most part.
Naughton at RB is alot different than Naughton at LB. He's been better because he's been playing RB recently. At LB, he was still abysmal, for the most part.
 

Locotoro

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That is what I am saying. If he were coached properly, he could become a fine player

Lets not forget the swift development of our very own prodigal son, Bale, who went from being an unlucky and physically weak left back to being a powerful left winger and then was forced to develop when teams doubled up on him. Now hes part of that very top band of elite world class player.

If Townsend can be coached to be a left winger first, im certain he would be very effective. Cross first, shoot last!
 

yankspurs

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Lets not forget the swift development of our very own prodigal son, Bale, who went from being an unlucky and physically weak left back to being a powerful left winger and then was forced to develop when teams doubled up on him. Now hes part of that very top band of elite world class player.

If Townsend can be coached to be a left winger first, im certain he would be very effective. Cross first, shoot last!
Meh. Andros is already convinced he's the second coming of Bale. Now you wanna put him in Bale's position full time? That'll just make him more convinced and decidedly worse off.
 

onthetwo

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apologies if this has already been mentioned but isnt the Barca job about to come up and isnt he a legend there?
 

Jaesen1

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@Jaesen1 mind explaining the doh on my opinion? Hate it when idiots don't clarify the reasons!

Sorry mate - I was checking through the thread on my phone and must have accidentally pressed something when trying to scroll through the page. No offence and apologies as, having actually read your original message, I agree with your comments re: Martinez. Just for the record, I'm not an idiot, but my phone is.
 
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