The Case For Frank de Boer...continued

[Veuve Clicquot]

you are right but we are Tottenham and Levy rarely has the best interests of the club in mind

he wants to be in control and do everything on the cheap, he wants Champagne football on a Lemonade budget

Yep, if Pochettino is appointed then we can copy Man Utd and unfurl a nice banner 'The cheap one' , in honour of Levy.

 

[SpursDave88]

Interesting blog

http://tottenhamhotspur.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/if-you-dont-want-tim-sherwood-you-dont.html

If you don't want Tim Sherwood you don't want Frank De Boer

Frank de Boer has once again confirmed Tottenham have informally spoken to Ajax despite the official denial.

"They talked informally with Ajax about my contract," said De Boer. "I think they are quite happy with their manager, but it is normal that they get information about a possible successor, as have Liverpool in the past. Liverpool had four candidates and asked me if I was interested. That time I said I wanted to stay at Ajax.

"I'm very happy here, but if a club came with an interesting perspective and a good team, I would consider the proposal. I want to understand what contribution I could give."
The approach was not official and therefore the Tottenham statement that they have not contacted any clubs about coaching appointments is legally correct, if not actually correct. Two friends have just had a chat, that's all, nothing illegal about that.


"We have not contacted any club regarding coaching appointments."

Compare this situation where Spurs can't actually tell the truth to that of Head Coach Tim Sherwood who tells the truth and gets insulted and abused by mindless supporters.
If these supporters are moaning at Sherwood for telling the truth then they won't want Frank de Boer here either will they, he tells the truth also. The claim is Sherwood embarrasses the club when he speaks which is of course nonsense, but if it is what you claim then what Frank de Boer is consistently saying has to be viewed in the same light. He is forcing Spurs to officially deny something that is true, but legally untrue.
Isn't the truth better than playing this media game to avoid being sued for breaching employment law. But then there is little chance of football being a clean game, poaching or tapping up of players and managers will always take place, as will informal phone calls.

Not interesting a stupid article making a few, very stupid points and drawing a false conclusion that the reason we don't like Sherwood is because he tells the truth and therefore we won't like De Boer.

"Compare this situation where Spurs can't actually tell the truth to that of Head Coach Tim Sherwood who tells the truth and gets insulted and abused by mindless supporters."

Erm..mindless supporters? No a mindless writer, Tim gets abuse for saying stupid stuff which is to the detriment of our team and its reputation, as well as for being a rubbish manager who is deluded regarding his own ability.

" The claim is Sherwood embarrasses the club when he speaks which is of course nonsense,"

No it isn't. "If it was up to me I'd give myself a ten year contract"

"but if it is what you claim then what Frank de Boer is consistently saying has to be viewed in the same light"

No it doesn't, the conclusion doesn't follow at all. What is said obviously matters, not just whether it is true or false.

"Isn't the truth better than playing this media game to avoid being sued for breaching employment law."

Although the writer tries to beg the question here, implying the answer is "Yes", the answer is quite obviously "no".

The writer is clearly an idiot and reading his article and rebutting it has wasted 3 minutes of my life I will never get back.

 

[Tom Pops]

A successful manager will make Levy tens of millions in CL money, i doubt he would sacrifice that over someone being a bit gobby to the media, he is a businessman first and foremost

Ignore that, keep accidentally giving ppl spam ratings when I scroll up the page on my phone

 

[shelfboy68]

you are right but we are Tottenham and Levy rarely has the best interests of the club in mind

he wants to be in control and do everything on the cheap, he wants Champagne football on a Lemonade budget

Of course he does that is why we probably will end up with the Southampton manager as it's likely he will be cheap plus not kick up a fuss to much when he he doesn't get want he wants.
I can't get over why avb agreed to a gagging order on him so he can't reveal what went on that seems a bit suspicious to me what is Levy hiding that he is frightened what may come out.

 

[Tom Pops]

as it's likely he will be cheap plus not kick up a fuss to much when he he doesn't get want he wants .

What makes you think that? He's never come across that way at Soton, he nearly left the club with that whole Cortese business

 

[mattstev2000]

Interesting blog

http://tottenhamhotspur.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/if-you-dont-want-tim-sherwood-you-dont.html

If you don't want Tim Sherwood you don't want Frank De Boer

Frank de Boer has once again confirmed Tottenham have informally spoken to Ajax despite the official denial.

"They talked informally with Ajax about my contract," said De Boer. "I think they are quite happy with their manager, but it is normal that they get information about a possible successor, as have Liverpool in the past. Liverpool had four candidates and asked me if I was interested. That time I said I wanted to stay at Ajax.

"I'm very happy here, but if a club came with an interesting perspective and a good team, I would consider the proposal. I want to understand what contribution I could give."
The approach was not official and therefore the Tottenham statement that they have not contacted any clubs about coaching appointments is legally correct, if not actually correct. Two friends have just had a chat, that's all, nothing illegal about that.


"We have not contacted any club regarding coaching appointments."

Compare this situation where Spurs can't actually tell the truth to that of Head Coach Tim Sherwood who tells the truth and gets insulted and abused by mindless supporters.
If these supporters are moaning at Sherwood for telling the truth then they won't want Frank de Boer here either will they, he tells the truth also. The claim is Sherwood embarrasses the club when he speaks which is of course nonsense, but if it is what you claim then what Frank de Boer is consistently saying has to be viewed in the same light. He is forcing Spurs to officially deny something that is true, but legally untrue.
Isn't the truth better than playing this media game to avoid being sued for breaching employment law. But then there is little chance of football being a clean game, poaching or tapping up of players and managers will always take place, as will informal phone calls.

That's without doubt one of the worst things I've read on the whole situation.

It reads like it was written by a child and if the author honestly can't see the difference between FDB confirming an approach and Sherwood shooting his mouth off week in week out about the players and saying how fantastic he is then I despair for them.

If anything the club made the FDB situation ridiculous by denying it rather than ignoring it. Everyone knows that the club is scraping around desperately trying to replace Sherwood - coming out and denying an approach that has clearly been made just looks foolish.

 

[tototoner]

http://www.london24.com/sport/tottenham/frank_de_boer_would_definitely_succeed_at_spurs_1_3590565

Frank de Boer would ‘definitely succeed’ at Spurs


Shota Arveladze, who played with de Boer at Ajax and Rangers

“Frank is doing fantastic at Ajax. Frank is a very serious person and he’s always looking to progress,” he told talkSPORT.

“He was a top football player himself so he knows the language of the boys. He knows all of the various generations at Ajax because he’s been with the youngsters for the last four years.

“I believe it’s a big challenge that he wants to come to the Premier League and show his quality. He will definitely succeed whatever the next step is that he takes.”

 

[THFC 1882]

Sporting Lisbon boss Leonardo Jardim is reportedly being monitored by Spurs chief Daniel Levy, who has not been put off by his experiences with recent White Hart Lane coach Andre Villas-Boas,another import from Portugal.
Read more at http://talksport.com/football/sport...tottenham-job-14050890283#1KmPcuEHAiR7GzmS.99

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

I highly doubt that Levy will be put off by what De Boer is saying in the media. It's pro-Spurs ffs.

If Sherwood has survived with the smack talk he has laid down about the board, players and general anti-Spurs shit, i'd be incredibly surprised if what FDB is saying bothers him as much the media makes out.

 

[FinnYid]

I highly doubt that Levy will be put off by what De Boer is saying in the media. It's pro-Spurs ffs.

So what? Levy should consider it more from an viewpoint of Ajax, I mean we might be in their shoes in short time if we appoint Frank and he is succesful.

 

[only1waddle]

Yet when we tried to poach FdB in January there was no moral issue with Levy because it fitted his terms.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

So what? Levy should consider it more from an viewpoint of Ajax, I mean we might be in their shoes in short time if we appoint Frank and he is succesful.

Levy's first priority is Spurs. If he wins us titles and trophies i would give him my blessing to move onto the likes of Barcelona/Real Madrid.

I'm not too naive to understand we aren't at the top of the ladder in terms of top teams in world football, and if he does win us titles/trophies or even makes us a consistent top 4 team, he would have earnt the right to move up to a bigger team.

 

[FinnYid]

Levy's first priority is Spurs.

Yes, and that's exactly why he should watch how FdB conducts himself from viewpoint of Ajax.

 

[Dirty Ewok]

I highly doubt that Levy will be put off by what De Boer is saying in the media. It's pro-Spurs ffs.

If Sherwood has survived with the smack talk he has laid down about the board, players and general anti-Spurs shit, i'd be incredibly surprised if what FDB is saying bothers him as much the media makes out.

I tend to agree....I could see Levy being bothered by Overmars letting it be known that he had been contacted. But once that is out there what is De Boer supposed to say?....he can't say that he knew nothing about it without making Overmars (a friend of his) look bad. The press keep asking him so he has to give some form of answer. So he acknowledged it and has been fairly positive but very professional (all the "I would be interested but that is not for now" and "Spurs seem happy with their current manager but if they want to talk i will") about the whole thing.

If we don't at least sit down with the guy and see what he thinks he could bring to the table it would be a spectacular mistake. I'm not saying that we have to hire him (he is my preference personally) but bring him in as well as the other candidates and actually speak with them before you make the final decision. Any one of them may change your mind if you actually let them explain their plans and philosophy. To cut one out (who seems very interested) before you do that is just asinine.

 

[spursfan77]

I highly doubt that Levy will be put off by what De Boer is saying in the media. It's pro-Spurs ffs.

If Sherwood has survived with the smack talk he has laid down about the board, players and general anti-Spurs shit, i'd be incredibly surprised if what FDB is saying bothers him as much the media makes out.

I agree. It's just the papers filling column inches and regurgitated old quotes. Ie. what they usually do.

 

[parklane1]

I agree. It's just the papers filling column inches and regurgitated old quotes. Ie. what they usually do.

And so many fans fall for it hook line and sinker.

 

[Bobbins]

Yes, and that's exactly why he should watch how FdB conducts himself from viewpoint of Ajax.

So we should get a worse manager in case the good one is too successful and eventually leaves?

Maybe we should stop buying the likes of Modric, Bale and Eriksen because we'd be better off with Jozy Altidore - at least no-one will want him, right?

Blimey.

 

[only1waddle]

De Boer's stock has been rising this last season and I am sure the Ajax board will have spoken to him, they might have privately given him their blessing to move on.

 

[FinnYid]

So we should get a worse manager in case the good one is too successful and eventualy leaves?

No, but if he is fine on how FdB is conducting now (I've no problem with it), then he should be fine when FdB pines after bigger things publicly while on helm of Spurs. Bit like 'arry and England job, well apart from timing.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Yes, and that's exactly why he should watch how FdB conducts himself from viewpoint of Ajax.

From Ajax's point of view, FDB has said he wants to go if Spurs want him. They have a history of selling their top players, and the touted 5 million in compensation is nothing to be sniffed at for a manager.

It's a tricky situation for the Ajax board, their fans are unanimous in wanting FDB to stay, but he clearly wants a move, and regardless of what Overmars/Cryuff etc say about wanting him to stay to appease the fans, they won't stand in his way when he does go.

For all we know, Ajax have asked him to go public to drum up interest in him for the compensation, in fairness, it was Overmars who broke the news, not FDB, so he cant be blamed for the questions being asked of him in the media, he's just being honest.