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C0YS

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I've never seen saka play well. Not once. He is very ordinary imo. Is he a winger? A striker?
He's clearly not a striker and never has been. The only positions he's ever played with any regularity are as a winger or a wing back.

Saka is one of if not arsenal's best player and he is quite rightly lauded over by Arsenal fans. sure some overrate him. But, while I don't think he is world class he is exceptional for a 20 year old, more than exceptional.

Arsenal fans haven't had a lot to cheer about recently so I personally can understand why they'd get a bit excited and overboard on Saka.

On a joint team I'd have saka there, but at wing back. He's not as good as Deki obviously. But football doesn't work in that way anyway.
 

HNIM

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Sky Sports News viewers have been picking their transfer window XI...
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Arsemania not taken this well:

State of this. Also the window is not done yet.

Perisic over Zinchenko and Richarlison over Jesus is a joke.

I think we have got real value for money with our central defenders:

White, Saliba, Gabriel and Holding £111m
Varane, Maguire, Martinez and Lindelof £205m
Ake, Laporte, Stones and Dias £208m
VVD, Kounde, Matip and Gomez £120m
Sanchez, Romero, Davies and Dier £105m

I've left Chelsea out as their business in central defence is unfinished. I think our options are much better than Sp**s and Man Utd and if they all reach their potential they could get close to Liverpool and City in 3-4 years.

Damn manutd seriously overpaid for thier defense also Sp**s defense is seriously average lucky they got Conte coaching them

Yeah I don't rate the Sp**s defence at all outside of Romero, definitely have their weaknesses masked by the system.
Wait. Isn’t there a media conspiracy against Spurs?
 

PrettyColors

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Kind of agree, he is good, but of Arsenal sides gone by he wouldn’t even get a sniff of the first team. He’s got more ability and footballing brain than peak Walcott but that doesn’t make him Henry or Pires just yet. He has the talent and he plays with freedom,but we have seen this with players like Dele and Rashford.
Not sure if Mikel is the right coach to get the best out of him.
Yeah that’s the sad part, Arsenal have had way, way better players than him. I mean even Nasri and Arshavin had better seasons than what he did last year, to say nothing of their actual quality attackers in the 2000s…

Arsenal are quite sad.
 

KILLA_SIN

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Watched the game on Sky again Ryan was very good today. He will start his fair share of games this season. Keen to see Spence and Ryan. But Emerson was decent today his natural instinct isn't as attacking but he's getting better understanding of his role.
 

JCRD

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Arsenal fans have this certain look and act. Im not talking race, colour, etc im more talking how they talk how they act. You can pretty much guess an Arsenal fan based on how they talk and act.

Apart from Laura Woods, she is lovely and really what the fuck happened for her to be a Gooner

Oh and Ian Wright - awesome guy
 

KILLA_SIN

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Sky Sports News viewers have been picking their transfer window XI...
View attachment 115342

Arsemania not taken this well:

State of this. Also the window is not done yet.

Perisic over Zinchenko and Richarlison over Jesus is a joke.

I think we have got real value for money with our central defenders:

White, Saliba, Gabriel and Holding £111m
Varane, Maguire, Martinez and Lindelof £205m
Ake, Laporte, Stones and Dias £208m
VVD, Kounde, Matip and Gomez £120m
Sanchez, Romero, Davies and Dier £105m

I've left Chelsea out as their business in central defence is unfinished. I think our options are much better than Sp**s and Man Utd and if they all reach their potential they could get close to Liverpool and City in 3-4 years.

Damn manutd seriously overpaid for thier defense also Sp**s defense is seriously average lucky they got Conte coaching them

Yeah I don't rate the Sp**s defence at all outside of Romero, definitely have their weaknesses masked by the system.
Yeah they are overrating their defence ours was 8 goals better last season they were three better 48 than West ham 51 and they conceded 31 goals away from home to our 21. At home it was 17 against 19 in there favour

Saliba coukd make a difference but I fully expect us to concede less than the 40 we conceded last season

They were pretty shaky last night again

Also didn't we have Romero unavailable for 16 games
 
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tommo84

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Some snippets from SaintsWeb about today’s game (to break up the obsession over what Arsenal fans are saying about Arsenal):
Spurs will spank plenty of teams at home this season - the depth of their bench is ridiculous when you see the four subs they can bring on at once.
Just seen snippet of JWP grinning and laughing with one of the Spurs players after the game. Doesn’t sit well, that.
On the train back, left after 75 minutes.

We started alright, nice goal and Spurs were huffing and puffing without doing much, their fans very quiet.

Then 2 poor pieces of defending and suddenly we are behind. 3rd goal killed the game, no idea what Salisu was doing there although was up the other end.

Positives were Lavia who I thought was excellent, and Aribo who had a decent game.

Negatives was Djenepo reverting to pre pre season type and forgetting how to defend, plus the lack of threat up front from Armstrong. Surely it would have been better to play Adams because he at least can hold the ball up.

Had a good day out drinking at Pressure Drop taproom around Tottenham Hale in the sun and saw a few people I hadn't seen for ages. So at least the day wasn't a complete waste of time, haha.

Also, Spurs fans are massive twats. Couldn't believe how many of them were walking back to the station when we left. They were 4-1 up FFS. Awful fans really, just another London ground full of rich, part time fans and tourists.
Well that was fun ... not.

Pretty grim performance all round.

Spurs are a better side but they aren't unbeatable. If you have a decent game plan then you have a chance.

The fact we had a 1 0 lead but didn't know what to do with it, is scandalous.

The good thing about being in the stadium is, you miss loads. None of us saw the OG ... Good.
Surprised absolutely nothing being said about the two Spurs horror tackles. I know it wouldn't make any difference to the result but both were pretty bad....especially the one that didn't even get a booking.
I expected us to lose, no surprise there. Spurs are a very decent side, will I’m sure be top four again.


However the concern for me was Spurs didn’t need to play well to beat us. They didn’t get out of third gear, got to 4 up and eased off (thankfully).
We went 2-1 down, came out at half time and instantly conceded again (offside) thankfully.
Heads went down at 3-1 and sat there I was convinced 6 or 7 were going past us. Luckily Spurs were done with us, but my word we were so open at the back. Kane was fortunately crap and Son not at his best.
Could have been so much worse….
 

TheVoiceofReason

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To be fair I was at the game and couldn’t believe how many of our fans were leaving around 83 mins, I just don’t understand it, it’s really not that busy after games that you can’t get a tube. Also it’s fucking annoying people budging past you for 10 mins after half time then 10 mins before the end. Anyway rant over, only negative in an ocean of positives.
 

wadewill

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To be fair I was at the game and couldn’t believe how many of our fans were leaving around 83 mins, I just don’t understand it, it’s really not that busy after games that you can’t get a tube. Also it’s fucking annoying people budging past you for 10 mins after half time then 10 mins before the end. Anyway rant over, only negative in an ocean of positives.

Noticed the same thing

Shame that Sess goal just after HT was ruled out. Would have served the 1/3 of people who hadn’t bothered getting back to their seat right.

I still do get why necking a pint at HT is more important than watching the first five mins of the second half
 

Aphex

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Noticed the same thing

Shame that Sess goal just after HT was ruled out. Would have served the 1/3 of people who hadn’t bothered getting back to their seat right.

I still do get why necking a pint at HT is more important than watching the first five mins of the second half

Because England is full of people with drink problems, seriously.
 

Aphex

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Saka is crazily overrated. He’s a decent young player but he’s never going to be world class. He doesn’t possess any outstanding attributes or the X factor. Kulu is already a much better player.
 

rossdapep

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Arsenal fans have this certain look and act. Im not talking race, colour, etc im more talking how they talk how they act. You can pretty much guess an Arsenal fan based on how they talk and act.

Apart from Laura Woods, she is lovely and really what the fuck happened for her to be a Gooner

Oh and Ian Wright - awesome guy
You are absolutely right. Its is rather odd.
I've often been introduced to people and you just get a feeling
 

nferno

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He's clearly not a striker and never has been. The only positions he's ever played with any regularity are as a winger or a wing back.

Saka is one of if not arsenal's best player and he is quite rightly lauded over by Arsenal fans. sure some overrate him. But, while I don't think he is world class he is exceptional for a 20 year old, more than exceptional.

Arsenal fans haven't had a lot to cheer about recently so I personally can understand why they'd get a bit excited and overboard on Saka.

On a joint team I'd have saka there, but at wing back. He's not as good as Deki obviously. But football doesn't work in that way anyway.

Still need revenge for Judas…
 

DenverSpur

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Both the SLNs and ourselves have bought well this window. We both bought players that suit our respective systems and both teams players have bought into their respective managers system.

Going by the opening games( a minuscule sample I admit) you can see both teams are going to have success- how much time will tell.

The SLNs are a good team but what I think will let them down over the course of the season is:
Their youth and lack of experience- you saw that in the run in last season where they buckled under the pressure. We on the other hand have bought and already had experienced players.
They lack physicality- they are a small team and the PL is a very physical league making them an easy team to bully. Despite playing an under cooked Palace team they controlled the game only in patches. Our squad is slowly becoming a tribe of giants.
Although they’ve bought well they haven’t added any real depth. Last year they had no European football and were knocked out of the domestic cups early. That as much as anything helped them challenge for 4th place. This year with theThursday EuropaLeague their squad is going to be stretched. The experienced depth we’ve bought will help us negotiate all the competitions.

Overall there is no denying they have a good team but I don’t feel they have the depth, physicality or experience to overtake us in the League. It maybe more worthwhile for them to concentrate on winning the Europa League in order to qualify for the CL because if they fail to qualify for it this season they may start to lose some of their better players to bigger clubs which is a fate we suffered from pre Poch.
 

animalmom

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Arsemania:

Despite that I've constantly been told how amazing Sp*rs transfer window has been and how it's gonna raise them to another level they haven't started a single one of their new signings

Didn't people banter us at the start of last season with "How do you spend 100m without improving your first team"?

Looking at Sp**s starting 11 they have 3 cbs ( Dier, Davies, Romero) and two wing backs ( Royal and Sessegnon). Not single one of them would come close to starting for us, how the hell did they finish above us?

This team is totally average, and Conte won't change that.

Front three is good but the rest are painfully mid.

Big teams look to control matches, always.

That team finished above us. :LOL:

I would take Son though, but i think overall we have the better squad.

Kane, Son and Romero walk into our team mate. even Kulusevski. Stop overrating our players.

Romero starts where ahead of Gabriel? No Saliba? No White? Maybe Let him play in back 4 first And Saka is miles ahead of kulu. Only son and Kane that's about it because our team lack that. :LOL:

Romero wouldn't start over Saliba, Gabriel or Ben White. Red card waiting to happen

Kane nearing 30, frustrated that he is still stuck at Sp**s and hasn't won a single thing in his career. Can see Jesus having a better season than him.

Sp**s team is not class but Conte get players that suit his style. It's not hard to figure that out.

The footballing guru - SA_Gunner - see Sp**s are pushing up and pressing higher. That's good from Conte. You cant be a title challenger without doing that these days.

SA_Gunner - Southampton up. Now sit back and lets see what our "title contenders" can do.

Here you go title contenders

Lol these ****s cant even keep a cleansheet for more than 20 mins and they were sayin they werent worried about us based on yesterdays performance. Mugs!

1-1

Everything good from Sp**s comes from Kulesevski. He really is insanely good, his movement is just elite. Saka could learn a lot from him.

Kulu would have been the perfect RW for us, especially as Gunenr Fan. Shame he hasn't waited some months

2-1

Well, that was short-lived, not suppried though. Spuds won't loose this (sadly)

How can you guys watch Sp**s vs opposition they usually beat while at home? Their football is crap and the hope of watching them lose vs the reality of them winning easily isn't worth it.

SA_Gunner - Of course I want them to lose, but I also watch to see what makes Conte an elite manager there. Spoiler alert... there is nothing. He has brought in some more agressive pressing when wanting to get the advantage, but other than that... he has them playing like a small team.

Pretty quick comeback from the title contenders, I wonder if our current version can finally do something like that.

SA_Gunner - Their football is rubbish dude, you wont win a title or get close to the top four sitting back against small teams and relying on set pieces alone.

Sp**s are such a boring team.

Just got in, apparently Sp**s are playing like prime Barca?

Give them title already. It's over.

Sp**s top of the table and will likely end the week there I guess.

Unbelievable no card for that, Romero tackle

I got use to it with Sp**s the way they get away with many things is unbelievable. Surprised Kane didn't have his usual penalty today

Damn Sp**s got a lot of options, their squad looks pretty strong now

Man we really fumbled not getting Kulusevski in winter. The guy would add competition to Saka plus can play CF plus carried Sp**s to top 4 and now again unplayable.

Kulusevski is always been good player but if we bought him we'd play him LW not sure he'd he successful there his best position is RW since parma days and no way you drop generational talent as saka. He chose the right team and system imo.

SA_Gunner went silent after the 3rd goal went in and never returned.

I dont think anyone but these guys have said that we were title contenders - haven’t seen anyone say it really
 

walworthyid

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He's clearly not a striker and never has been. The only positions he's ever played with any regularity are as a winger or a wing back.

Saka is one of if not arsenal's best player and he is quite rightly lauded over by Arsenal fans. sure some overrate him. But, while I don't think he is world class he is exceptional for a 20 year old, more than exceptional.

Arsenal fans haven't had a lot to cheer about recently so I personally can understand why they'd get a bit excited and overboard on Saka.

On a joint team I'd have saka there, but at wing back. He's not as good as Deki obviously. But football doesn't work in that way anyway.
I'm sure he is fantastic, I've just never seen it.

What I would say though, is he better than 20 year old Alli? Or 21 year old kulu? I'm not sure he's a significant upgrade on sess at all. Royal, offensively, yes.

It's not anti-scum bias because I really like smith-rowe and martinelli, but neither get close to our 11 and would struggle for much game time at all.
 

allatsea

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He's clearly not a striker and never has been. The only positions he's ever played with any regularity are as a winger or a wing back.

Saka is one of if not arsenal's best player and he is quite rightly lauded over by Arsenal fans. sure some overrate him. But, while I don't think he is world class he is exceptional for a 20 year old, more than exceptional.

Arsenal fans haven't had a lot to cheer about recently so I personally can understand why they'd get a bit excited and overboard on Saka.

On a joint team I'd have saka there, but at wing back. He's not as good as Deki obviously. But football doesn't work in that way anyway.
The main thing Kulu has over Saka, who IMO is a very good player, is a brilliant footballing brain.
 
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