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tototoner

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I have had enough. It is not Erikson, or Erikssen, or Eriksson, it is ERIKSEN. It is not Saldado, it is SOLDADO. For goodness sake it is not Norton, it is NAUGHTON. You support the club, the names are on the back of the shirts. How hard is it to spell the players' names right? :banghead::mad::banghead::mad::banghead::mad::banghead::mad::banghead:

This angers me so much. We do not have a player called Verthongen, or Kabul, or Loris. We do have players called Vertonghen, Kaboul, and Lloris.

For the love of mankind, would you please just spell them correctly?

Thanks xo

agree it justs takes the biscut when people incorrectly spell names
 

raf18

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Thought I'd have a go at writing them with the correct spelling on phone and see what they auto corrected to. These were the standouts

You new Kaboul
Clad Churches
Danny Rise
Manila Bentaleb
Her main Defoe

Just typed Jermain again three times and it came out with "Keema in" and "Jerks in". WTF is going on! Oh and it p*ssed me off when it wrote Erikseb instead of Eriksen - just because I once typed that accidentally.
 

pook

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Sorry to be really, really pedantic - but ...

... And if I don't know how to spell or say a player's name, I look it up. Takes literally two seconds ...

how can one casually stroll through this pedants' penthouse of a thread, leave that sitting in the middle of the table, then stroll out, and get away with it? 'not a word ... no one dared to speak'.

you're like clint eastwood in high plains drifter. pure brass. I salute you.
 

Bulletspur

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This thread sounds like snobbery and lack of tolerance on a different level. I cannot believe that how someone spells another name can get your collective knickers in such a twist. You really need to have real problems then you would probably appreciate how petty and silly you sound.

Not every one is blessed with literary and computer skills so deal with it.

Loris, Verthonghen, Ericson, Siggrudson, If I was to use these four names in a conversation, I am sure you would know who I was talking about.
 

davidmatzdorf

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I read a lot of posts here, especially on this thread, that assume that, provided someone understands which player you're referring to, it doesn't matter if you mangle the spelling - or usage, punctuation and idiom, for that matter.

That's bullshit. It's basically the same as saying that it's OK to be mediocre and semi-competent. It's not. If you're going to express yourself in a public place, take some care and pay attention to the details. It's an admission of inadequacy to say 'it's OK to spell names wrong, as long as the reader doesn't confuse Sigurdsson with Eriksen, and it's OK to write confusing, half-cooked posts'.

It just takes a few seconds longer to check and proofread what you write. I do it as a matter of routine, because I care about how my writing portrays me as a person and I consider it a matter of courtesy to other people that my writing should be clear, understandable and accurate.

Basically, have some fucking pride.
 
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Kingstheman

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I read a lot of posts here, especially on this thread, that assume that, provided someone understands which player you're referring to, it doesn't matter if you mangle the spelling - or usage, punctuation and idiom, for that matter.

That's bullshit. It's basically that same as saying that it's OK to be mediocre and semi-competent. It's not. If you're going to express yourself in a public place, take some care and pay attention to the details. It's an admission of inadequacy to say 'it's OK to spell names wrong, as long as the reader doesn't confuse Sigurdsson with Eriksen, and it's OK to write confusing, half-cooked posts'.

It just takes a few seconds longer to check and proofread what you write. I do it as a matter of routine, because I care about how my writing portrays me as a person and I consider it a matter of courtesy to other people that my writing should be clear, understandable and accurate.

Basically, have some fucking pride.
I was going to say, 'I expect to see you soon for tea' and I considered offering you a scone with jam and the possibility of choosing a single lump or two but after this post... Nay sir.

Instant coffee for you.
 

Spurger King

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I read a lot of posts here, especially on this thread, that assume that, provided someone understands which player you're referring to, it doesn't matter if you mangle the spelling - or usage, punctuation and idiom, for that matter.

That's bullshit. It's basically that same as saying that it's OK to be mediocre and semi-competent. It's not. If you're going to express yourself in a public place, take some care and pay attention to the details. It's an admission of inadequacy to say 'it's OK to spell names wrong, as long as the reader doesn't confuse Sigurdsson with Eriksen, and it's OK to write confusing, half-cooked posts'.

It just takes a few seconds longer to check and proofread what you write. I do it as a matter of routine, because I care about how my writing portrays me as a person and I consider it a matter of courtesy to other people that my writing should be clear, understandable and accurate.

Basically, have some fucking pride.

*the

;)
 

Bulletspur

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I read a lot of posts here, especially on this thread, that assume that, provided someone understands which player you're referring to, it doesn't matter if you mangle the spelling - or usage, punctuation and idiom, for that matter.

That's bullshit. It's basically that same as saying that it's OK to be mediocre and semi-competent. It's not. If you're going to express yourself in a public place, take some care and pay attention to the details. It's an admission of inadequacy to say 'it's OK to spell names wrong, as long as the reader doesn't confuse Sigurdsson with Eriksen, and it's OK to write confusing, half-cooked posts'.

It just takes a few seconds longer to check and proofread what you write. I do it as a matter of routine, because I care about how my writing portrays me as a person and I consider it a matter of courtesy to other people that my writing should be clear, understandable and accurate.

Basically, have some fucking pride.
My God, the arrogance and contempt. Good on you, I will try not to be the first to point out your next typo Mr Perfect!

EDIT: I don't have to worry about that happening as Spurger King has done the honours!
 

tiger666

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I read a lot of posts here, especially on this thread, that assume that, provided someone understands which player you're referring to, it doesn't matter if you mangle the spelling - or usage, punctuation and idiom, for that matter.

That's bullshit. It's basically that same as saying that it's OK to be mediocre and semi-competent. It's not. If you're going to express yourself in a public place, take some care and pay attention to the details. It's an admission of inadequacy to say 'it's OK to spell names wrong, as long as the reader doesn't confuse Sigurdsson with Eriksen, and it's OK to write confusing, half-cooked posts'.

It just takes a few seconds longer to check and proofread what you write. I do it as a matter of routine, because I care about how my writing portrays me as a person and I consider it a matter of courtesy to other people that my writing should be clear, understandable and accurate.

Basically, have some fucking pride.

Is it lonely up there on your pedestal?
 

Vulcan10

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I read a lot of posts here, especially on this thread, that assume that, provided someone understands which player you're referring to, it doesn't matter if you mangle the spelling - or usage, punctuation and idiom, for that matter.

That's bullshit. It's basically that same as saying that it's OK to be mediocre and semi-competent. It's not. If you're going to express yourself in a public place, take some care and pay attention to the details. It's an admission of inadequacy to say 'it's OK to spell names wrong, as long as the reader doesn't confuse Sigurdsson with Eriksen, and it's OK to write confusing, half-cooked posts'.

It just takes a few seconds longer to check and proofread what you write. I do it as a matter of routine, because I care about how my writing portrays me as a person and I consider it a matter of courtesy to other people that my writing should be clear, understandable and accurate.

Basically, have some fucking pride.

Oh dear, that's a tad harsh. I know what you mean in a lot of ways & obviously in most situations in life you would always look up info first, that's why I personally shorten to Pav etc if I'm not sure as looking up on the Internet isn't always as quick as some make out, especially if using an old mobile etc. I'm also aware that in life in general getting someone's name wrong is considered a huge sin.
However it's not a business email to the CEO it's a (supposedly) fun forum so i'm surprised at the depth of strong feelings on this. Personally I think poor grammar or a lack of politeness/ability to articulate shows more about a person than if they have the exact correct spelling of a foreign player's name. I mean who can even see the names on the shirts from row w of the east upper or who pays attention to this anyway rather than watching the actual game. I don't personally buy a programme for example. I guess some people are more tuned into this sort of thing than others.
After all it's the badge on the front not the names on the back anyway.
I know I'm in the minority here but just thought I'd play devil's advocate & put across another view point. I'm sure many come on here just to relax & unwind from their day/stresses so I personally am a bit more forgiving (unless it's a really daft easy one) and then surely it's just funny.
 
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Spurger King

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I read a lot of posts here, especially on this thread, that assume that, provided someone understands which player you're referring to, it doesn't matter if you mangle the spelling - or usage, punctuation and idiom, for that matter.

That's bullshit. It's basically that same as saying that it's OK to be mediocre and semi-competent. It's not. If you're going to express yourself in a public place, take some care and pay attention to the details. It's an admission of inadequacy to say 'it's OK to spell names wrong, as long as the reader doesn't confuse Sigurdsson with Eriksen, and it's OK to write confusing, half-cooked posts'.

It just takes a few seconds longer to check and proofread what you write. I do it as a matter of routine, because I care about how my writing portrays me as a person and I consider it a matter of courtesy to other people that my writing should be clear, understandable and accurate.

Basically, have some fucking pride.

I generally agree. Then again, proofreading was a large part of my old job for several years, and still constitutes a significant part of my current job via marking papers. It's certainly the case that, within academic circles, papers containing errors (even if only a few) tend to reflect badly on the student, and can even influence the way in which the content is viewed. In short, poor grammar can undermine the impact of an argument by suggesting that if they haven't given due consideration to their grammar, perhaps the same could be said of their thought process.

Having said that, I understand that this is a football forum, and not a site for academic works. With many people posting via mobile phones it's inevitable that mistakes will appear. For the most part it doesn't bother me. However, there really is no excuse for repeatedly getting the names of our own players wrong.
 

Vulcan10

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I generally agree. Then again, proofreading was a large part of my old job for several years, and still constitutes a significant part of my current job via marking papers. It's certainly the case that, within academic circles, papers containing errors (even if only a few) tend to reflect badly on the student, and can even influence the way in which the content is viewed. In short, poor grammar can undermine the impact of an argument by suggesting that if they haven't given due consideration to their grammar, perhaps the same could be said of their thought process.

Having said that, I understand that this is a football forum, and not a site for academic works. With many people posting via mobile phones it's inevitable that mistakes will appear. For the most part it doesn't bother me. However, there really is no excuse for repeatedly getting the names of our own players wrong.

Fair enough and a good debate.
We're all a mixed bag on here, others will have jobs where they get 100 emails a minute that need reading & prioritising so perfect the art of essentially skim reading info quickly to sort the vital info from the fluff. It's habit forming so this then applies to football, especially if juggling say sorting the kids or working from home whilst also watching the game on tv, when the line ups come up on screen you essentially skim read it to see who is playing in the quickest time possible, only taking in the vital info as this is all you have time for. Seeing what way round the s and the d go really isn't in the mind set. You see the first couple of letters, know who it is and move onto the next player etc. I personally don't think it's a big deal.
I do hope we sign Luke Shaw though over the Portuguese chap ha ha & make this thread redundant.
 

Spurger King

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Fair enough and a good debate.
We're all a mixed bag on here, others will have jobs where they get 100 emails a minute that need reading & prioritising so perfect the art of essentially skim reading info quickly to sort the vital info from the fluff. It's habit forming so this then applies to football, especially if juggling say sorting the kids or working from home whilst also watching the game on tv, when the line ups come up on screen you essentially skim read it to see who is playing in the quickest time possible, only taking in the vital info as this is all you have time for. Seeing what way round the s and the d go really isn't in the mind set. You see the first couple of letters, know who it is and move onto the next player etc. I personally don't think it's a big deal.
I do hope we sign Luke Shaw though over the Portuguese chap ha ha & make this thread redundant.

All valid points. I'm not a snob, but I can also see where davidmatzdorf is coming from. I tend to check spelling as a matter of courtesy, and through a general attention to detail. That's not to say that I don't make mistakes...just that for me it's an aspect of what I value when posting something in the public sphere.

I recently had to hand in a draft of my thesis, and one of the last things I did was run a spell-check. It was five years worth of work, but nevertheless I was shocked by the amount of errors I'd left in. Much of it was produced through a burst of writing, so at that point I was prioritising getting my thoughts down, instead of stopping and checking the finer details. With that in mind, I can certainly understand how someone might fire off a quick reply that isn't perfectly written, and I wouldn't be quick to judge the content on that alone. The names of our players is something a little different for me though.

Rightly or wrongly, if someone makes a post where they consistently refer to Lamela as Lamella, Lamala, or Lalalalalabamba, I tend to be more inclined to discount their view as that of someone who has little more than a superficial knowledge of the player, or perhaps even our club in general.

A friend of mine wrote his dissertation on the philosopher Roland Barthes. When he ran a final spell-check, his computer automatically changed 'Barthes' to 'Bart' without him noticing. His tutor later admitted to me that my mate immediately dropped a grade, as it looked like he'd taken it upon himself to write knowledgeably about someone despite not even knowing how to spell their name correctly. Mistakes like that can heavily influence the way in which an entire statement or text is interpreted...even if the content is valid.
 

Bulletspur

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All valid points. I'm not a snob, but I can also see where davidmatzdorf is coming from. I tend to check spelling as a matter of courtesy, and through a general attention to detail. That's not to say that I don't make mistakes...just that for me it's an aspect of what I value when posting something in the public sphere.

I recently had to hand in a draft of my thesis, and one of the last things I did was run a spell-check. It was five years worth of work, but nevertheless I was shocked by the amount of errors I'd left in. Much of it was produced through a burst of writing, so at that point I was prioritising getting my thoughts down, instead of stopping and checking the finer details. With that in mind, I can certainly understand how someone might fire off a quick reply that isn't perfectly written, and I wouldn't be quick to judge the content on that alone. The names of our players is something a little different for me though.

Rightly or wrongly, if someone makes a post where they consistently refer to Lamela as Lamella, Lamala, or Lalalalalabamba, I tend to be more inclined to discount their view as that of someone who has little more than a superficial knowledge of the player, or perhaps even our club in general.

A friend of mine wrote his dissertation on the philosopher Roland Barthes. When he ran a final spell-check, his computer automatically changed 'Barthes' to 'Bart' without him noticing. His tutor later admitted to me that my mate immediately dropped a grade, as it looked like he'd taken it upon himself to write knowledgeably about someone despite not even knowing how to spell their name correctly. Mistakes like that can heavily influence the way in which an entire statement or text is interpreted...even if the content is valid.
While I see where you and Davidmadwhatever is coming from, that is your prerogative to proof read edit or adjust as you see fit, but don't berate someone who doesn't or possibly cannot.
 
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