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Greece remind me of England.
But Greece can defend lol
Greece remind me of England.
Totally agree on Henderson - he was good tonight. The correct move would of been to take off Gerrard - it was blindingly obvious.
Until we stop obsessing over individuals we never become a real collective force.
I honestly thought Gerrard was very poor.
Totally agree on Henderson - he was good tonight. The correct move would of been to take off Gerrard - it was blindingly obvious.
Until we stop obsessing over individuals we never become a real collective force.
I honestly thought Gerrard was very poor.
Has he lamped Mark Saggers yet?Stan Collymore is making brilliant points here (he's still a ****)
For some reason I thought you were Irish ?
We said that last time though... 'Well at 2014 Gerrard is 34 and Lampard even older, it will be time for the new guard' and yet we still have the team built round one of them. They'll probably still be there next tournament!
I'm Northern Irish - but I was born in London and didn't move over to Northern Ireland until I was 8!!
Have always supported England.
Yeah but what players do this? They study their game in England and think it's the best league in the world... Get paid shed loads and what. World class players can play in any league. In that respect Roy has a lot more experience.Foreign coaches go to several clubs in several countries to learn (not always as an employee, sometimes just visit with permission) but the only British coach I have heard doing this is Rodgers.
Wow, you had a choice and you chose England. Tough break.
It's got fuck all to do with quotas of English players (@Mustard ), or any other of those lame bollocks excuses, it's got to do with the quality, intelligence and coaching of those players.
Man for man, individually, I don't think Uruguay were any more talented collectively than England, the problem is continually England's inability to get the best from their resources (players), so what the fuck have quotas got to do with anything ? The English game and English players would be even further behind now if it wasn't for the influence of foreign players and coaches on their game.
Italy & Spain have had less stringent football quota rules and have done shitloads better than England.
the thing is Henderson will be getting more flac because he doesnt have hype, becoming about a modern day england great is about having the hype!Yep I said after the last game that it looked like Redknapp football at the very worst. Random chaos hoping that individuals pull something out of the bag. Problem being that a) they didn't choose Redknapp to manage the team to play this way and b) Hodgson has decided just before the tournament to 'have a go', and just put a team out there with no working structure behind it.
I agree about Henderson, he was one of the very few who did ok. Woy's subs are predictable though; take off two of the 4-2-3-1 that aren't named Rooney and then for the last sub take off the centre mid that isn't Gerrard.
rooney missed from 8 yds just the keeper to beat, just not good enough. defence beaten hands down twice for two goals, just not good enough. englands world cup performance: just not good enough.
This is sad because its true. Everyone said the old guard wouldnt be there after the world cup yetWe said that last time though... 'Well at 2014 Gerrard is 34 and Lampard even older, it will be time for the new guard' and yet we still have the team built round one of them. They'll probably still be there next tournament!
Greece remind me of England.
Why do people consider Rooney to be part of the "old guard"- he's 28 FFS.This is sad because its true. Everyone said the old guard wouldnt be there after the world cup yet
2012: Terry, Cole, Lampard, and co were there
2014: Lampard, Gerrard, Johnson and Rooney are there(rooney should be there but not undroppable)