Arsenal Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

THFC 1882 · Nov 8, 2015

feel we should have won this
but its a good point in the end!!

Teddy Klinsmann · Nov 8, 2015

Feel very proud of our club tonight. A tough week of fixtures and our boys fought every minute together. We actually have a team for a change and not simply a splattering of decent players. Long may it continue.

guiltyparty · Nov 8, 2015

Jenas good value on MOTD2

Looking particularly 'Dr Dre'. Hench

millsey · Nov 8, 2015

guiltyparty said:
Jenas good value on MOTD2

Looking particularly 'Dr Dre'. Hench

Think he's out on a bit of chunk

Led's Zeppelin · Nov 8, 2015

Was Sanchez playing?

Oh yes, I remember now, he was sitting on the ground wondering what had hit him most of the time wasn't he?

Damian99 · Nov 8, 2015

Just watched the game over again and for all we were the better team overall and deserved to win?? The start of that second half and those two headers - Giroud and Koscielny - nobody anywhere near them, its awful. It is our achilles heel (still) as it was for a lot of last season. Toby and Jan need to be much more commanding from set piece situations, against.

Led's Zeppelin · Nov 8, 2015

Damian99 said:
Just watched the game over again and for all we were the better team overall and deserved to win?? The start of that second half and those two headers - Giroud and Koscielny - nobody anywhere near them, its awful. It is our achilles heel (still) as it was for a lot of last season. Toby and Jan need to be much more commanding from set piece situations, against.

I don't disagree and I hope they can improve a bit but it may just not be possible for them to out-jump taller players who are exceptionally good in the air.

Cutting out crosses would help but in fairness you can't stop every attack from every angle all the time, and the defence actually did a very convincing job overall.

I'd rather keep Jan and Toby with their potential aerial weakness (it's not as bad as all that, either) than lose the many other qualities they contribute to the team that we've been lacking for a very long time.

Damian99 · Nov 8, 2015

Led's Zeppelin said:
I don't disagree and I hope they can improve a bit but it may just not be possible for them to out-jump taller players who are exceptionally good in the air.

Difficult to tell really to be fair, as those two headers were totally unchallenged. You don't have to out jump your opponent, but you do have to make a challenge, anything to stop a free header in and around the 6 yard box. Its also down to timing the challenge or atleast do something that will put the attacker off and make it difficult to get a clear header in.

thinktank · Nov 8, 2015

Damian99 said:
Just watched the game over again and for all we were the better team overall and deserved to win?? The start of that second half and those two headers - Giroud and Koscielny - nobody anywhere near them, its awful. It is our achilles heel (still) as it was for a lot of last season. Toby and Jan need to be much more commanding from set piece situations, against.

Can't rely on verts in the air tbh, would prefer Dier to have marking duty on main threat on oppo. set pieces.

slartibartfast · Nov 8, 2015

Led's Zeppelin said:
I don't disagree and I hope they can improve a bit but it may just not be possible for them to out-jump taller players who are exceptionally good in the air.

Cutting out crosses would help but in fairness you can't stop every attack from every angle all the time, and the defence actually did a very convincing job overall.

I'd rather keep Jan and Toby with their potential aerial weakness (it's not as bad as all that, either) than lose the many other qualities they contribute to the team that we've been lacking for a very long time.

It wasn't down to out jumping them or not, nobody was anywhere near them, on 3 occasions plus.
It was and still is an issue we just don't seem to address although we have improved defensively in other areas.
For me it looks like we simply do not decide who's marking who before or even during a game.
If you're playing Arseholes you know Giroud and Scrotumsacker are the biggest aerial threat. So why wasn't Verts marking one and Alder marking the other?
To me it actually looked a few times like Lamela had been given the task of marking Giroud and thats nuts.
Any high balls in worry me but I suppose its a testament to how well we played that we reduced them to long ball in their own back yard.
It is an issue but boys played really well today bar that.
We're definitely stronger than the sum of our parts. Great team work.

sak11 · Nov 9, 2015

slartibartfast said:
It wasn't down to out jumping them or not, nobody was anywhere near them, on 3 occasions plus.
It was and still is an issue we just don't seem to address although we have improved defensively in other areas.
For me it looks like we simply do not decide who's marking who before or even during a game.
If you're playing Arseholes you know Giroud and Scrotumsacker are the biggest aerial threat. So why wasn't Verts marking one and Alder marking the other?
To me it actually looked a few times like Lamela had been given the task of marking Giroud and thats nuts.
Any high balls in worry me but I suppose its a testament to how well we played that we reduced them to long ball in their own back yard.
It is an issue but boys played really well today bar that.
We're definitely stronger than the sum of our parts. Great team work.

It looked more simple to me. It seemed we were marking zonally. As soon as Giroud got that first header which hit the bar, Poch should have got Dier to man mark him at any set piece. Unfortunately that did not seem to happen and each time he had a free header. Lucky for us he didn't take advantage.

davidmatzdorf · Nov 9, 2015

An extraordinary statement in yesterday's Guardian's preview of today's match, which I have to assume they have bothered to check:

...nine of the last 16 England debutants have worked under Pochettino either at Tottenham or on the south coast.

Damian99 · Nov 9, 2015

Assigning players to mark should surely be all sorted well beforehand, that said if those players don't come forward from the back for a particular set play, then players need to sort that out during the game itself. I still think we are lacking a real leader out on the pitch and players have to take on responsibility during the game and take charge of situations that develop, our CBs have to boss their opponent and not the other way around, we are taken massive strides this season - so its wrong to be over critical - but its a worrying weak spot none the less.

thinktank · Nov 9, 2015

davidmatzdorf said:
An extraordinary statement in yesterday's Guardian's preview of today's match, which I have to assume they have bothered to check:

Don't care, he's shit....

mpickard2087 · Nov 9, 2015

thinktank said:
Can't rely on verts in the air tbh, would prefer Dier to have marking duty on main threat on oppo. set pieces.

Dier was one of the main culprits today at set pieces I felt, certainly guilty on a couple of occasions.

slartibartfast · Nov 9, 2015

sak11 said:
It looked more simple to me. It seemed we were marking zonally. As soon as Giroud got that first header which hit the bar, Poch should have got Dier to man mark him at any set piece. Unfortunately that did not seem to happen and each time he had a free header. Lucky for us he didn't take advantage.

Oh God please don't tell me we were using zonal marking.
Explains everything.
Its shit and doesn't work imo.
Has a zone ever scored a goal?
Not to my knowledge lol.

thinktank · Nov 9, 2015

mpickard2087 said:
Dier was one of the main culprits today at set pieces I felt, certainly guilty on a couple of occasions.

He wasn't stellar, but he's the best option we have imo. Has the height and physicality and is, generally, good in the air.

arunspurs · Nov 9, 2015

IMO, Dele Alli had the best game in Spurs shirt till now. Alli & Dier outran & outplayed Cazorla & Coquelin , so much so that , Cazorla was taken off at HT feeling "dizzy".
Not an easy feat at library for a 19 year old playing in first NLD.

markdadude · Nov 9, 2015

Did anyone watch the MOTD2 highlights edit?

It was basically all Arsenal highlights. It included our goal plus about 2 spurs chances. What a joke.

Then Jenas proceeded to say it was the most complete performance he'd seen from a spurs side -
Well you wouldn't have had a clue from watching the shit the BBC put out!

kaz Hirai · Nov 9, 2015

markdadude said:
Did anyone watch the MOTD2 highlights edit?

It was basically all Arsenal highlights. It included our goal plus about 2 spurs chances. What a joke.

Then Jenas proceeded to say it was the most complete performance he'd seen from a spurs side -
Well you wouldn't have had a clue from watching the shit the BBC put out!

Well in the limited highlights package they have they can only show the key moments in a game rather than our passing or pressing

Forums

What's new

Matches

Sportsbook

Members

Arsenal Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Official SC Numpty

Can't Re Member

Well-Known Member

Can't Re Member

Well-Known Member

Hmmm...

Grunge baby forever

Well-Known Member

Front Page Gadfly

Well-Known Member

Hmmm...

Patient Zero

Grunge baby forever

Hmmm...

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Similar threads