Poch will not play a 90% fit player let alone 50% fit. I suggest you quit your futile effort to defend mason with this lame excuse, unless of course your name is ryan.
Player Watch: Ryan Mason
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Poch will not play a 90% fit player let alone 50% fit. I suggest you quit your futile effort to defend mason with this lame excuse, unless of course your name is ryan.
Jack
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He's slightly out of his depth anyway, but 100% yes it does.
michaelden
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ITK suggests he's been sold...
mason is delaying a surgery to correct a problem. He is not really injured. If Poch actually send out players who are not fit to play then Poch is going against his own philosophy. I have watch Lineker played in pain and he scored a hattrick.
sirleytonbrisbane
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I like mason and he has been carrying injuries. He's been better than Lamela was in his first two seasons.
Matrix
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How does that have any bearing now?! The being better the last 2 years not the injuries.
Nigel Spinal
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He can't turn properly on his ankle, which has a massive impact on all parts of his game.
I am a football coach and I find it impossible to believe any other professional coaches will allow a player with a condition you have described, to continue playing especially in a system as demanding as the Spurs one. It makes no sense at all. mason isnt even half as important as kane.
LexingtonSpurs
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He also is not settling into a country where he does not know the language...
Mason has likely plateaued as a player - decent player, but not good enough to have a big role in a title-contending team. he will be a better fit in a mid-table squad, maybe one that plays 3 in the midfield.
sirleytonbrisbane
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The team clearly ran out of steam. One of the problems with a clearly defined first team is the number and frequency of games and another is getting the confidence of bit part players up.
Ryan mason is a player without confidence at the moment. Most players are carrying some Kind of physical problem at some point in the season. Mason has looked like he's struggling this season whereas when he was playing last year he looked good.
Ryan mason is a player without confidence at the moment. Most players are carrying some Kind of physical problem at some point in the season. Mason has looked like he's struggling this season whereas when he was playing last year he looked good.
Indacupfortottenham
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I'd keep him around, think he proved himself last season and has been unlucky with injuries since scoring the winner against Sunderland.
Would rather get rid of Bentaleb.
Would rather get rid of Bentaleb.
Bus-Conductor
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If I'd said Mason was great that would be different, but what irks me is the bullshit bias that gets spouted. At half time yesterday it was all Mason's fault, which was bollocks. Dier was worse than Mason that first half, and much worse second half. For a month now Dier's been poor and has been getting away with very little criticism on here, in fact a week ago some whack job was calling him the new Xabi Alonso in the Summer transfer wish list thread. Dier and Dembele were fucking dreadful second half against Chelsea and second half against West Brom.
Last year Mason was part of CM2 with another (20yo) rookie having their first full season as EPL players in a transitional side that didn't work like this team works and didn't have the benefit of the likes of Alderwireld and a safety first Walker, yet still managed 5th place and generally, without being perfect, and both having faults to work on, performed pretty well pretty consistently.
Now he gets brought into a floundering team, carrying an injury and all of a sudden he's total dogshit and not good enough to part of this squad ? A year ago that was Dembele.
Bus-Conductor
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Yeah, because the only stats that count are the last 5 games. Last 4 games Dier's started we've taken 2 points from 12, giving up leads in three of them. I guess the only reason you're not criticising our Defensive Midfielder's positional awareness whilst getting slabbed 5-1 by a wanky 10 man relegation team is your huge brave balls.
Jack
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Unfortunately it isn't as simple as that, injuries are not fixed they are managed. It is possible to get by for large chunks of an athletic season with an injury, which could be argued requires intervention, but tactical and individual circumstance require the individual to play on. This is very common.
We can only speculate as to what, or whether he is indeed injured. And saying 'he has an ankle injury' is like saying 'my car engine is faulty' - it could be caused by any number of things which will all vary in severity and management.
My patience has run thin with Mason recently but if it transpires that he has been carrying injuries through the season then I empathise with him as it would certainly prevent him giving a true account of himself. As one poster mentioned if Poch is preferring a half fit Mason over a fully fit Carroll that says all we need to know about who may be moved on this summer.
SargeantMeatCurtains
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LOL you talk so much shit its untrue. How dare you have the audacity to bring into question somebody else's opinion. Just because you've donated over £1000 to this site doesn't make your opinion better than mine or any less nonsensically retarded. Please dont ever @ me ever again.
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worcestersauce
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Last season Mason was measured against Capoue and he took charge of that roll, in fact he earned his place but doing his own job and capoue's, his attitude was pretty magnificent but sadly I think we can, and therefore have to, improve on him to meet our ambition.
Don't think we ran out of steam by the way, we ran out of Alli and Dembele.
fecka
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But what if it's not biased? Sure, I agree that Dier hasn't been at his best but calling him dreadful against chelsea and these last four games is wrong and simply not true. If anything you seem to have some bias against Dier which can be seen over and over again in several threads.
The reason Mason is getting so much flak is simply because he has been a standout performer in the lousiest way possible for so many games now that I can't help but laugh at some of his actions on the pitch, time and time again. I mean, Nigel is saying that Mason is playing with an injury but he's less than average in every aspect of the game. His touch, passing, positional awareness and decisiveness is barely League 1 standard while Dier has been one of the biggest reasons for us turning around one of the worst defences in the league to one of the best. When Mason is on the pitch he fucks up the whole press by not knowing what to do and when, repeatedly getting caught in no man's land leaving his teammates exposed.
Our collapse these last 4 games is not Mason's fault but I'll tell you right now that I very much doubt that we would have gotten only 2 points out of 12 with Dembele and/or Alli instead of Mason.
And whose fault is that.
Typical Spurs
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Ryan Mason - decent footballer. No more than that. I would keep him due to the home grown quota we need. An alright squad player. Hes tenacious and I like that in a player. But for me limited ability. Yes he was part of a young 2 man partnership in Bentaleb, but them 2, along with the team were steamrollered at times the last 2 seasons.
Ask yourself if one of the big clubs would have him - arse, citeh, yanited, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. No chance. If he went he would at a middle of the road club like Stoke.
Then ask yourself if Dembele would get in those clubs. He absolutely would easily.
Then ask yourself why we've been poor since Dembele has been suspended vs wba, soton and Newcastle.
Then ask yourself why we lost home vs Newcastle, away to West Ham. No Dembele.
Mason is nowhere near the standard required to challenge for league honours, let alone deputise for Dembele who is in a totally different class
Ask yourself if one of the big clubs would have him - arse, citeh, yanited, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. No chance. If he went he would at a middle of the road club like Stoke.
Then ask yourself if Dembele would get in those clubs. He absolutely would easily.
Then ask yourself why we've been poor since Dembele has been suspended vs wba, soton and Newcastle.
Then ask yourself why we lost home vs Newcastle, away to West Ham. No Dembele.
Mason is nowhere near the standard required to challenge for league honours, let alone deputise for Dembele who is in a totally different class
fecka
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It was a collective fuck up of grand proportions. Throwing the blame at Alli, Dembele or Mason is stupid and childish as it was the whole team that failed to turn up when we needed it the most. Our pressing against Soton and Newcastle was atrocious and they punished us for it badly.
