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Swansea Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

Gb160

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Each and every fan is entitled to go about it how they see fit.
What gives you the right to say how people should comment? Utter nonsense.
You're right in one respect, but if every fan has the right to post whatever's running through their minds, then surely every fan has the right to highlight and laugh at these later when the posters made a complete tit out of themselves?...you can't have it both ways mate, its not an amnesty thread.
 
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Drink!Drink!

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people need to get a grip...get some perspective...otherwise...opposition fans setting up humorous SC meltdown twitter accounts...it's gonna happen
 

JollyHappy

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I'd just add that I was watching last night and other than one early instance of poor ball control, Sissoko was ok. It's not his fault he has a £30m tag but he put in the effort, won challenges, passed well and contributed to the team.

I agree that he didn't help break through the Swansea massed defence but then neither did Dembele or Dier.

All this rubbish about him being the worst player ever to play for Spurs is really funny for those who remember and watched our team in the late 1990's and 2000's. Who remembers Toda!!
 

shelfboy68

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I'd just add that I was watching last night and other than one early instance of poor ball control, Sissoko was ok. It's not his fault he has a £30m tag but he put in the effort, won challenges, passed well and contributed to the team.

I agree that he didn't help break through the Swansea massed defence but then neither did Dembele or Dier.

All this rubbish about him being the worst player ever to play for Spurs is really funny for those who remember and watched our team in the late 1990's and 2000's. Who remembers Toda!!

Indeed Yoda was better than toda.
 

Dougal

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We were poor for 88 mins because we were close to losing 1-0 to an extremely shit Swansea team. It's very easy after the event to say keep the faith isn't it!!
We're all still wanting the team to win, we all celebrated at the end, can you not see that?
How some people go over an old match thread digging out fans is laughable.
But your missing the fucking point.
It's an off the cuff emotional rollercoaster in the match day thread. Positive and negative posts. Good and bad posts.
Each and every fan is entitled to go about it how they see fit.
What gives you the right to say how people should comment? Utter nonsense.
What gives you the right to question how he questions the comments of people? What gives me the right to question your questions on the questions of the comments? What gives me the right to question myself?

This is getting confusing. It'd be a lot easier if you'd just admit you threw you're toys out of the pram and now look a little silly :D
 

Monkey boy

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Have only now had a chance to see the goals again. I must say that my initial thought about appalling defending by Ben Davies for the goal was absolutely correct. How he let himself get done so close to the byline I'll never know. Verts and Toby didn't cover themselves in glory either if truth be told.

That said Janssen assist for the second and Eriksen finish for the 3rd were a joy to witness.
 

Damian99

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One thing i do/did like about last night, was Toby's reaction when we conceded - he clearly hates giving any type of goal away and show it, unlike some (Davies who simply stand there looking gormless)

Also must apologise to anyone who took offence to my comment about punching my wife when we were 1-0 down, it was just a joke and obviously isn't really something to laugh about. I simply don't condone violence towards women and certainly not just because we had gone a goal down to Swansea.......... Now had we gone two down then fair enough ;)
 

Sarsipius

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I'd just add that I was watching last night and other than one early instance of poor ball control, Sissoko was ok. It's not his fault he has a £30m tag but he put in the effort, won challenges, passed well and contributed to the team.

I agree that he didn't help break through the Swansea massed defence but then neither did Dembele or Dier.

All this rubbish about him being the worst player ever to play for Spurs is really funny for those who remember and watched our team in the late 1990's and 2000's. Who remembers Toda!!

Dembele, Dier and Toda aren't / weren't attaching midfielders.

There's a difference in the expectation of role they perform for the team.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I only caught the back end of it so apologies if I got it wrong but I thought I saw a stat on SSN earlier saying no team had ever won the title from 7 points behind with however many games it is we have left to play, which only illustrates how much of a tall order it is. Bottle/Spursy simply doesn't come into it.
 

degoose

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People use the match day thread as a kind of punch bag to let out and share their fears and frustrations. It is what it is and I don't think we should be too hard on people for using it that way.
i generally avoid it completely when a match is on, it's just lot of knee jerk reaction and yelling.Ages ago i'm sure it use to be locked which i kind of preferred.
 

Shadydan

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Those back to back Fa Cup wins for Arsenal brought Wenger a lot more time and got the monkey off their back. No one called them legends during that period

It also was actually a positive period for the club because for the first time in about 6 years it seemed like the club was going to challenging for title and they did before they bottled it again.

Of course no one said well, Arsenal aren't bottling it since they didnt bottle it more times than bottling it since they finished second for the first time in 11 years? Of course not they said they bottled it.

The point is that unless you are winning for a sustained period, the label of legends wont go away.

We hope its different and hopefully it will be but until we win a major trophy we cant ignore the last 26 years

Also the subject was about the label of legends, I never called us a team of legends (y)

The comparison was more to do with the fact if we dont win anything over the next couple of years then we wont shake of that monkey

lol You sure about that? Arsenal have continually had their mentality questioned by the media and their fans, that period coincided with them getting smashed in the big matches and not pushing on. If anything those FA cups win did nothing but paper over cracks and masked the deficiencies in their team. The reason why I bought up Arsenal is because it's an example that merely winning trophies isn't a sign of losing a bottler mentality especially winning a cup which is a lottery, you even admit that they bottled it again so I'm not really sure what your argument is? :confused:

As an aside, bottling is such an overused and lazy term used by people to describe when a team loses to the point that it's beginning to lose all it's context. Bottling isn't just about losing matches it's about letting the pressure get to you when the heat is on. Having a bottler mentality is all about consistency and if you consistently come up short when it matters then you can rightly be questioned. The truth is though under Poch in which I keep saying is that we've done much more to rid of that flaky mentality and there is clear progression there which suggests that 'Spursy' is a thing of the past,

So if you're not winning for a sustained period you're a bottler...this is totally subjective, what is a sustained period? Why do you only take into account major trophies, doesn't have anything to do with the fact that our last trophy came 9 years ago which doesn't fall in line with your arbitrary criteria? Are Chelsea legends because they downed tools last season? Are Man City legends because they haven't won the league for 3 years? Are Liverpool legends because their last major trophy came over a decade ago?

The term needs to be taken into context, if people are so desperate to throw this ridiculous term at us then they need to look at the bigger picture and realise the kind of level we're playing at...Spurs don't have anywhere near the same infrastructure or monies as the five clubs above us, we don't pay anywhere near the highest wages in the league, we are building a stadium which is a massive hindrance on our player trading yet here we are...youngest team in the league, finishing above teams we have no right to finish above and surpassing all expectations once again, so even if we don't win the title or even the FA Cup, anyone that calls us legends taking the above into account either is being spiteful or doesn't know anything about football.
 
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Tucker

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people need to get a grip...get some perspective...otherwise...opposition fans setting up humorous SC meltdown twitter accounts...it's gonna happen

I think The Fighting Cock forum will be much more of a target for that kind of thing.
 

Shadydan

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I really don't get the fascination with going through the match day thread and reading old posts, it's just odd tbh, like an obsessive need to pick faults in peoples passion.

I said some stuff that I was wrong about but I was reacting in the moment, emotionally, this is what football does to you, you think Poch doesn't do the same thing?

He even said at the end of the game that whilst he always believes (I think all of us do deep down, or at least know we have the talent to always pull it back) he didn't think we were going to win it, Eriksen said he didn't think we played well until the end.

These are normal thoughts, the only difference is, you don't get the players thoughts in real time and you don't get their instant opinions from inside their brain shared on a message board, if you did then you would likely be complaining about them as well, people ultimately get passionate because they want to see us succeed, that's not to say people who don't react in the same the way some do on here care less, it just means they react in a different way, there is nothing wrong with either approach imo.

It doesn't make you a bad supporter, part of being a supporter is riding through the ups and downs and for many people having supported spurs for a long time, well, there has been a lot of them.

I have to say this is the best spurs team and manager I have ever had the privilege of watching in my lifetime and they deserve every bit of recognition they get but that won't stop people being nervous and reacting emotionally and with immediacy in a match day thread, the only way to stop that would be to lock every thread until 2-3 hours after full time.

This is what football is, it's a game of emotion and passion, it always has been and it always will be, you can't expect people to just sit contently when so much is on the line for the team they love.

Last night I threatened to stop watching the game, trust me, every part of me wanted to for my own sanity, it felt like "one of those nights" but again, that's the frustration and emotion coming out and venting it out is healthy.

Of course I didn't stop watching, I never would, even if we were losing 7-0 I would still watch in hope that we would make a comeback, call it whatever you want but I support spurs and always have, through thick and thin.

Now if people want to call me a shit supporter or whatever because I made a few emotionally charged comments in a match day thread then so be it but I will tell you this, I love spurs and that's all that matters to me at the end of the day.

I will add though, I don't like the personal insults towards the players and manager and I think at this point we can safely say this team aren't legends anymore, irrespective of what happens between now and the end of the season, they have a strong mentality, I think we were overconfident last night and thought we could just turn up in the first half and with our injuries and their early goal it made it difficult but the fact we turned it around in the way we did, with all the pressure on us and with our injuries that late in the game, well, it shows that not only have we learned from last season but that we have all the bottle we will ever need to win this league.

Also, I would like to add that, I never want to see us line up with the 4231 again, it just kills our attacking momentum, that ship has sailed.

lol Glad the irony isn't lost on you...:ROFLMAO:

Look we had the same arguments before, don't make irrational comments which totally lack any perspective then you won't get called out it's that simple. It's funny how it's the same people who were doing this last time are the same people who are moaning this time.
 

THFCSPURS19

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I only caught the back end of it so apologies if I got it wrong but I thought I saw a stat on SSN earlier saying no team had ever won the title from 7 points behind with however many games it is we have left to play, which only illustrates how much of a tall order it is. Bottle/Spursy simply doesn't come into it.
City overcame an 8-point deficit with 6 games to go in 11-12, so I have no idea what they're talking about.
 

riggi

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I don't get the issue here. The team did not look like winning and were frustrating as hell untill right at the end. Did anyone at 80 minutes think "chill, we got this"?
 

Archibald&Crooks

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City overcame an 8-point deficit with 6 games to go in 11-12, so I have no idea what they're talking about.
Nor have I .....I did catch something about Arsenal and games in hand, but I could have missed them saying apart from City, like I said I only half saw the back end of it I wasn't paying attention. Whatever, its a tall order.
 

14/04/91

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Some of the posts from 70-88 mins were pretty amusing. Our second tricky away game in 4 days.....missing 5 key players.
Shows how far we've come that some people were so disappointed with potentially losing only our 4th game of the season in April and only being joint-second.

Let's not forget Saturday Chelsea lost at home to an average team fighting for their lives. Last night Liverpool only drew at home to a lower team. United can't buy a win at home against mediocrity.
It is a tough league, especially at the vinegar strokes when players suddenly realise they're in trouble. Ok we got away with one yesterday but what bottle to keep going right to the very end.
We ain't gonna win every game, we're not Man Utd of the late nineties. But pulling that out the bag, even against a Swansea, says a lot about us these days.
 
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