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Sweetsman

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I think the whole he’s only managed top aides excuse is a bit wrong. I think if he managed our team and we set up how his teams do in a 4-3-3 coached by him with a line up of the below + mabye strengthening in 2 positions, and you take this man.city team and say pep has never coached them and they have Mancini in charge let’s say, I think our team with 2 years of peps coaching would win. Yes he manages teams with top players but his teams don’t just win they absoloeuly suffocate and batter teams and you have to understand that is just as much down to the impecible and unique coaching ability for the team and players on and off the ball as it matters the actual quality of the players. Real Madrid once bought the galacticos but peps Barca team would tear that team apart. Trust me he’s an incredible manager and poch still has a long way to go hence his one away win vs top 6 in 18 away games.

Lloris

Aurier
Toby
Jan
Rose

Dembele
Eriksen
Alli/*insert top quality CM*

Son
Kane
*insert top quality wide man*
This is the first time he's beaten Poch, so you wasted a lot of words that amount to zip.
 

Sweetsman

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Maybe but we’re in our least successful period in terms of trophies in 70 years.
We used to at least be guaranteed a few FA cup wins back in the day. Not now.

Let that sink in before we praise Enic too much.
Do you know when ENIC took over and when we last won an FA Cup? Do you know that the FA Cup doesn't mean that much now, except to Johnny Brexit? We were known as a cup team and that was a problem that caused us a lot of problems in the long term.
 

SpursDave88

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Falling out of love with football. After many years the hope is gone. Can't really be bothered to watch a selling club lose football matches anymore. The losses hurt a lot more when you have some hope. I'll probably renew for one more year to watch us in the new stadium, but after that I don't think it's healthy for an adult man to have an emotional investment in something he can't impact and quite frankly will never be successful. Football is and has always been about money, if you don't have it you have no chance.
 

glacierSpurs

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The ideas of having weak players, weak bench, poor transfer policy just doesn't come into arguments at all. Southampton and Everton gave them a tough game, for all the players they had, compared to ours. We gave fuck all.

Its all in the mentality and attitude, as well as Poch rigidity. If we never push beyond these barriers, no matter how world class our players are, we will see the same performance IMHO.

Weird thing is, I thought we had push past these barriers last season.. Sigh..
 

DCSPUR

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This is the first time he's beaten Poch, so you wasted a lot of words that amount to zip.
Right mate but there is too much agenda rubbish from posters here....think AC noted it that it is far busier here in defeat than victory....says a lot
 

kd2000

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There is absolutely no way Sterling would be in my or anybody else's Premier League XI ahead of Hazard, Sanchez, Salah, Coutinho or even Eriksen.

Kane consistently outscores Aguero as well.



All these players were at City last year and we finished above them.

Ok sterling maybe not but if you look i did say david silva was missing. Now with the possible exception of hazard i would put aguero (yes even infront of kane who i think is great btw) sane, de bruyne and d silva ahead of any other 4 in the league

As good as eriksen is on his day hes not as good or as consistent enough to get in ahead of those. Same goes for coutinho, salah and sanchez
 

mattdefoe

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Does anyone think loris was weak for the De Bruyne goal? It looked suspect first up or was it just to good a strike
 

glacierSpurs

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KDB is really a scum. I still cannot forget how bastard was he within just the first 10 minutes when he was fell and waving his hand at the ref to show a card.

Having Hazard in the national team must be hard for Verts, Toby and Dembele. Now there is another KDB to make two scums unbearable.
 

jonnie83

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Really winds me up when players ask the ref to book another player. Should be an instant booking for asking the ref to do this
 

Metalhead

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Maybe but we’re in our least successful period in terms of trophies in 70 years.
We used to at least be guaranteed a few FA cup wins back in the day. Not now.

Let that sink in before we praise Enic too much.
Trouble is that football has changed. Back in the day we could concentrate on progression in the FA cup or perhaps the league cup but now the FA cup is apparently worthless and it is beneath us to compete for it; presumably the same applies to the league cup and therefore you have the premier league, top 4 and the CL. Well, the top 4 is achievable (albeit not a trophy), the premier league we have competed for on a couple of occasions and came up short but is still generally very tough to compete for against clubs with arguably stronger squads and the CL is again obviously a tough competition.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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I think it's fully plausible that for some of them, they will never get better than the best we've seen already. Whilst others may were well yet have another level to go to. As a squad overall, they should be judged by where they are now, not by this perpetual notion that they are all so young.
I don't think it is plausible, they will develop physically and mentally and they are still young.
My original point was in response to the idea that Poch had taken this team as far as he can, I am not saying we don't need to buy top players if we can.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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A lot of that depends on themselves and where they end up in the future for whatever club they play for, just look at walker he hasn't done too bad has he EPL winner in his first season compared to fuck all at spurs.
I don't believe it does, other than the obvious attitude problems, their best days are ahead of them.
What Walker does or doesn't do doesn't alter the fact that he became a better player during the second half of his twenties and that supports my point.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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I hope your right my friend, but the wage structure at our club is not good enough. Rose and Dier will be gone trebling there wages good bye. Ali since he's changed his agent and got his contract has got to big for his boots . But to be fair to him last season he was class and I feel he is not playing as deep as he was last season. He was scoring for fun last season by making them late runs like lampard use to.I feel he's playing to high up the field this season so not as effective. But the way his attitude comes across any sign of a big money move he will be gone. Especially when the pound coin signs and big coins infront of Levys eyes. Worried extremely worried for our club.
I get that and I do agree that with the new stadium we have to step up on what we pay both in wages and transfer fees otherwise there is no point in the new stadium, players will expect it without a doubt.
I'm probably just more optimistic that we will, it is the next step and I think Levy recognises that, I certainly believe he is being given that message by Pochottino no less.
 

Thewobbler

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Did i hear right.....1 win in 18 away at the big boys? If true then that is pathetic.

21 points behind first place lol.
 

2bearis2do

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When you're making 25 million from a 5 year deal on nothing but football (exluding advertising) then moving for an extra 10 million is pure greed. I have no sympathy or understanding for that. Are you seriously trying to tell me that these players are in the right? They have a 15 year career with such wages, it's sickening. So if they want to go, there's the door.
Chill pill.
I think all the money in football is ridiculous.
I applaud our values and wage structure.
I, personally, in my world, hate it and do not believe the players are "right" ...but that's not the point...the point is...it is their world...their reality.
BUT
Life in general and footballers in particular are greedy...they want 1) Money and 2) to win things. And the elite will pursue those ambitions where the two marry - hence the Real Madrid's, Barca's, PSG's and now Man Shitty's of this world. You can't deny or ignore the fact. It is all relative. Kyle Walker, Modric, Bale....have all moved to the promised land of A + B = Galatico Ambition and reward.
I agree with your sentiment, I wish it were true that life and footballers thought the way you do - but it don't and they don't (rarely...Kane may stay).
But the reality? Rose wants to do a Walker. If we don't sort out Toby Ald. ..he will move on. What a mess we are with out him - but we are not showing him how much we value him in the footballing world. You're talking about the top 1% of THEIR profession - it's all glim, glam and money orientated showcase - Dele Alli and his posse epitomising that "Brand" belief. Sad..but true.
 
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