Is Lennon a disappointment?

coys63 · Jan 2, 2008

I think Aaron escapes the scrutiny other players get on this site so my question is a simple one. What does everyone think? I know he has had a few injury setbacks but he has been below average more often than not for a while now. Has his progress stalled especially in comparison to other young players in the league (eg Luke Young).

I live in oz and work away (in the bush mate!!!!) so I don't get to see all games but the games I have seen he has been poor.

Real_madyidd · Jan 2, 2008

Dibby · Jan 2, 2008

No, if anything, he is improving at a pleasing rate. Up there with Gareth Bale in terms of promise for the future.

talkshowhost86 · Jan 2, 2008

Before yesterday he'd been starting to look back to his best but he was totally anonymous against Villa. I'd like to see us have another right winger in the squad just to put pressure on Lennon's place in the team and make him work a bit harder.

And I assume you meant Ashley Young. I think it's safe to say that Luke Young's development has been stunted at best.

PT · Jan 2, 2008

He's most effective when knowing that he has defensive cover behind him whn he goes on the attack.

For that reason he's been suppressed by having Chimbonda play behind him who likes to get forward himself and in some cases overlaps Lennon.

Now that may be a Ramos directive but it seems to have blunted Lennon.

When Tainio played RB recently lennon was more comfortable in carrying out offensive duties and appeared to be more useful to the attacking duties of the line-up.

Stoof · Jan 2, 2008

Real_madyidd said:
No

:lol:

Is it time to replace Robinson?
RMY: No

Is Lennon a disappointment?
RMY: No

Nice work on the simple answers, RMY.

I don't think he's a disappointment - I think his form is patchy and I actually thought (as did the commentators on Sky - who I shockingly agreed with) that he did a great job of helping out Zokora at right back.

He's recently been very good, although a bit quiet in the two big wins at the Lane.

So no - he's only a disappointment if you built him up to be a World beater. Of which he may be capable some day but not yet. So it's a no from me too, Mr ThreadStarter.

guiltyparty · Jan 2, 2008

I would have to agree, though you'll probably get attacked for it on here. Think it was kind of inevitable because he made such a big impact, he was always going to level off as defenders got used to him.

Think he's actually made a lot of progress when it comes to being more of a team player, chasing back, tackling, that kind of thing. But there's no doubt that at one point that he would have walked into the Top 4's starting 11s, and currently he'd probably only just about make the bench. He doesn't impose himself on games enough for me.

Dibby · Jan 2, 2008

Yes, and of course, with Zokora playing behind him yesterday, he felt he needed to provide that extra cover which is why we saw him getting back more than we did getting forward. Although he had a good chance where he almost got to the ball before Carson to toe it past him into the net. Just a split second late but he didn't give up.

guiltyparty · Jan 2, 2008

Stoof said:
he's only a disappointment if you built him up to be a World beater. Of which he may be capable some day but not yet. So it's a no from me too, Mr ThreadStarter.

I think this is exactly right. But a lot of people do, that's the problem.

nicdic · Jan 2, 2008

I think the problem is that we don't counter quick enough. We are far too slow on the attack. Lennon's first season he was a revelation, and I believe that was down to Carrick. Carrick could pick him out early, and we always had players getting forward to support him. If he was to take on the full back when he got the ball most of the time for us, he'd be the only player forward. It's our midfields forward momentum that lets him down.

Pleased to see his recent improvements on his delivery though.

NickHSpurs · Jan 2, 2008

I don't think we play to his strengths, his team mates rarely give him a decent ball.

We rarely use his pace, Chimbonda especially is guilty of quite often halting Lennon's runs. Rather than play a ball in front of him to run on too, he'll play it behind him or at his feet, then he has to stop and get a momentum going again.

Then again, apart from THudd, we don't have anyone who can pick out a decent pass!

LSUY · Jan 2, 2008

I wouldn't call Lennon a disappointment yet just someone that is unable to live up to the high standards he set in his first season. You could argue that it is because Chimbonda is an attacking full back that overlaps Lennon or because the defence is so bad at the moment Lennon has to spend the match being more aware of defensive issues.

The problem with Lennon at the moment is he is a one trick pony. He only has one way of beating a defender and that is his pace. Defenders have caught on to that and have managed to contain him on the outside because they know his crossing quality isn't that good.

Hopefully Lennon can continue to develop to become a winger that is able to put more quality crosses in on a regular basis and beat a defender using something other than speed.

tt265 · Jan 2, 2008

I agree, so long as our defence is as makeshift as it has been, he will be expected to help out which is not really his game.
It's all to easy to forget how young he is but my fear is that he just doesn't have a consistent final ball in him. His game is running at defenders but i'm not too sure that he's in control of his run, hence the crosses that end up in the stand.

Phantom · Jan 2, 2008

No hes been ok recently and as was pointed out did a decent job protecting Zoko.

Dibby · Jan 2, 2008

nicdic said:
I think the problem is that we don't counter quick enough. We are far too slow on the attack. Lennon's first season he was a revelation, and I believe that was down to Carrick. Carrick could pick him out early, and we always had players getting forward to support him. If he was to take on the full back when he got the ball most of the time for us, he'd be the only player forward. It's our midfields forward momentum that lets him down.

Pleased to see his recent improvements on his delivery though.

:up:

I've often seen him take off on the counter with the ball only to hold it up until someone eventually comes forward to support. It's not so much that he doesn't get forward on the counter, just that the rest of the team don't.

Hate to say it, but our players just don't have the movement off the ball that the Scum do.

clarryboy · Jan 2, 2008

Good to see that this season he's realised the importance of tracking back. He's growing as a player, just not at the rate that we had all hoped. It doesn't help that the team has been going through a collective confidence crisis this season.

At times he's been abit of a luxury player and one of the things I'd like to see us try in order to sort out our defensive frailties would be to drop Lennon especially away from home for a Santini-ques two banks of four.

Hopefully within the next year we can see him start running games in the way Bentley has, cos right now Lennon tends to just run into a crowd of defenders. :grin:

The Apprentice · Jan 2, 2008

Sell him.

Archibald&Crooks · Jan 2, 2008

Some of his music is legendary

Dibby · Jan 2, 2008

Teemu_is_a_yid said:
The problem with Lennon at the moment is he is a one trick pony. He only has one way of beating a defender and that is his pace. Defenders have caught on to that and have managed to contain him on the outside because they know his crossing quality isn't that good.

Hopefully Lennon can continue to develop to become a winger that is able to put more quality crosses in on a regular basis and beat a defender using something other than speed.

No, I'm sorry, I don't agree with this. Over the last year or so, Lennon has learnt how to play the quick passes, the one-two, the flick, dinked, and hooked through balls etc. with much success. TBH, I would put quite a bit of my cash on Lennon studying Berbatov. He has said many times before that he strives to improve his own game by watching and studying players liek Ronaldo. This is starting to show.

Dibby · Jan 2, 2008

Archibald&Crooks said:
Some of his music is legendary

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