Klinsmannic
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Bissouma shone for them, but I also like Cucurella. Another good piece of business (£16M). If only they could find a decent striker.
Match Threads Spurs Vs Brighton
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Spurs 3-1 Brighton
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curlacious
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Did anyone notice how when Son nicked the ball in the build up to the first goal Ben Davies immediately pointed to where the pass needed to go (to PEH)? That's the sign of a well drilled team.
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Now i'm confused. In the past, when players have pointed (Parker, Keane etc) that was the sign of a **** and they were roundly abused for it
Nebby
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He's some player. Has the pace and power for the PL.
stoddle
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See the Woolwich have avoided the big teams again.
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Different styles of pointing. I think pointing needs a new thread. There is a robust debate to be had.Now i'm confused. In the past, when players have pointed (Parker, Keane etc) that was the sign of a **** and they were roundly abused for it
I was thinking. I hadn't followed the thread up until I posted. So if it was something mentioned over and over again I apologize.
It's just my initial opinion, he looked heavy legged, slow and not very agile. Am I not permitted to express an opinion? I didn't think it was inflammatory? Since I got a lot of hate, can I assume everyone else thought he was Aaron Lennon reincarnated?
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The issue with calling him "slow" is that it unfairly suggests he isn't fast enough to be effective in his intended role.
Is he fast enough to be as disruptive as a Son, Lucas, or Traore? No, but few are, and he doesn't need to be.
And the evidence that he is "slow" is based based on a 20 minute cameo, in his first game in a new league, when we were up 2 goals and possession and defense were the focus. He lead two breakaways when we were not set up to counterattack, and he didn't have much support. It was more important to keep possession then score, so he didnt do anything risk like take on 2 brighton defenders.
I wasn't expecting him to up there with the fastest in the league, but as a wide forward (if that's going to be the role) then I was expecting more pace than what he showed. Maybe he's lacking match sharpness and he'll look better after a few games?
It's not as if I've written him off.
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People didnt give him a chance in my opinion. He came to the club with so much potential but due to varous factors, they were not realised as quickly as the boo boys would want.
Having Toby as competitor for that position(who made a lot of mistakes but was never criticised) he was never going win the argument, therefore did not get a the run of games that would build on his potential.
Quite a few of his mistakes was a result of him trying to clear up other players mistakes, where had he not tried, we would have been blamed. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't. Describing him as Bamby on ice when he slips is just juvenile and cheap.
Not saying that Big Dave is the complete defender but without any flaws, far from it, but what I love about him he has the character to stand up and ignore the boos and put his body on line for our cause. I will also agree that he is probably will not get in the 1st eleven when both Dier and Romero are fit, but what a deputy to have on the bench.
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I have watched Kessie a hell of lot over the last three seasons and I just don't see how he is so highly rated. His goalscoring numbers were decent last year but again yesterday he was oniminous as like most of this season. He had that breakout session at Atlanta but I don't think he has lived up to the hype ever since.
It might be though the same case as Eriksen's last 12 months at our place, when you know you're leaving so you're form drops off, but I would take Bissouma or Kalvin Phillips over him anyday.
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Watched Kessie for Milan vs Liverpool in the 2 European games. There was nothing to get enthusiastic about. Some players get a big reputation and it stats with them ev3n though they drop right off. Every time Ronaldo lines up a direct free kick we get the usual crap off the commentator. His record at Juve was 75 free kicks. 1 goal .
So far for Man Utd....NONE.
At least we don’t expect Harry to score from free kicks, even though the commentators seem to think he’s good at it.
So far for Man Utd....NONE.
At least we don’t expect Harry to score from free kicks, even though the commentators seem to think he’s good at it.
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It's also another sign that Ben Davies is a much better footballer than a lot of people here thought for a long time. For many years, he was shoehorned into a left back role that he could cope with, but didn't really suit him - except when he played for Wales, where it was clear enough how much more comfortable and effective he was as a left-sided defender.
I think it's the difference between being obliged to attack, whenever we are in possession, and having licence to attack only when the right circumstance arises. Being a highly intelligent man generally, now Davies can judge whether his very modest pace will get him into a good position, instead of his default station being so far up the pitch that he is constantly distracted by the imminent obligation to trundle back into position and defend.
It's only a subtle change, but it switches his priorities and it has made him twice as effective a team member.
It's a perfect example of Conte's ability to improve players. It isn't always about individual technique or fitness. A lot of it is about seeing where individuals can best fit into a team structure and gving them clear instructions.
Now let's see what he can do with Reguilon and Royal.
davidmatzdorf
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Your "opinion" is demonstrably, provably wrong. Kulusevski is not slow. That is a fact that is not subject to "opinion". Having an "opinion" on something that is factual is just, well, dumb. It's either correct or it's not. Yours is not.
He is a faster than average footballer, as about a hundred clips, all over YouTube, of him outpacing multiple fullbacks and defenders will demonstrate, although at 6 feet plus, he hasn't the instant acceleration of an Aaron Lennon. He's not a speed merchant, but he is emphatically not slow. That is not an "opinion".
Furthermore, he didn't sprint during his appearance against Brighton. Sprinting wasn't called for by the footballing situations he was in, because we were protecting a 2 goal lead and we didn't need to take risks by trying to break behind their defence. We could control possession and build carefully. If Kulusevski doesn't try to sprint, how on earth do you know if he's fast or slow?
You don't. But that doesn't appear to have put you off mouthing the usual dreaded cliché "Am I not permitted to express an opinion?" Of course you are. Everyone has the right to be wrong. You are wrong.
Bobby TwoShots
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I agree with your point but that's a really patronizing way of expressing it. Why be so unpleasant? I'm pretty sure you'd never talk to him like that if he was standing in front of you.
It was an observation based on the 20ish minutes I watch. I don't tend to watch youtube compilations of a players best bits and I don't watch Serie A.
I'm not digging him out, or being abusive, he had a okay debut, it was just an offhand comment that apparently riled everyone up?
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Pointing on its own is fine. It's when it is accompanied by shouting or a 360 degree pirouette that it becomes offensive.
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Sorry, I realise I'm late to this discussion but this is just bollocks.
And I say that as a fan who used to go to whl all the time but sadly, life changed and I haven't been able to get there for years now.
That's doesn't make me less of a fan, or my opinion less worthy so to think as you apparently do is nothing less than fan snobbery.
