Andy Carroll.......

[FromTheLane]

This is his first season in the Premier league. And for him not being strong, in what sense dude? His goal against Liverpool is anything but weakness. A blast that flew for some 25 yards just by making one step on the ball.

Re-watch the first half of the game yesterday and then get back to me

 

[Damian99]

He can bring his mate Barton with him too. Superb performance even though he was playing out of position.

No offence but i wouldn't ever wanna see that horrible fucking cock face little wanker anywhere near a spurs shirt.

 

[Darrkespur]

Carroll is essentially Crouch with power, aggression and improved athleticism.

Get him in.

This. Carroll would be a big upgrade on the striker who we've relied on the most this season. He's also played next to big strikers like Ameobi so he would be compatible with the rest of our strikeforce rather than limited to playing with a big-little combo.

Lukaku is definitely the more promising in FM-style potential, but a) everyone is after the Belgian and b)Carroll's proven he can do it in the Premiership, which is always a question for foreign imports, especially at that age.

For me Carroll is doing everything right, on the pitch at least. He just has that air/look, of a player who will make an impact and change the game. Currently the only striker I feel who does that for us is Pav, and rarely. Crouch supports the team well but is very predictable, as is defoe in the goalscoring mode. Carroll has a little of both their skillsets, but also has that air of unpredictabillity that great strikers develop.

He's not the finished article yet and he has parts of his game he could improve. But his mentality on the pitch makes me think he's far more of an opportunity than a risk. I really can't see him being a Michael Ricketts. At the very worst he's a Kevin Davies, and we all know how much of a thorn in our side he's been over the years.

 

[SoulDog]

not good enough

 

[Rupstoh]

not good enough

Are you ok?

 

[There's always next year]

One major thing that puts me off him is his technical ability. He looks really ackward running with the ball.

I would prefer Lukaku over him.

If you think Carroll looks awkward, I would love to know what you think of Crouch

 

[Wiener]

Although I'm not a big fan of signing Carol Andrews (he'd be way overpriced), I'd prefer him to Torres.

That may sound a bit mental I know, but the point is that Torres is a bit fragile, whereas Carol's made of steel in comparison. Our physios have enough to do already. We need to stop signing players that spend half their lives in the pool.

Why would you like Carroll at the lane but not Barton? I assume your distaste for the latter has nothing to do with football and is mostly based on his extra-curricular activities. Surely Carroll's form with women should exclude him on that basis.

 

[tooey]

I wouldn't like carroll or barton. To progress we need world class players. Not players who are complete nobs. Since Carroll has hit form people have forgotten his antics off the field. Two players with the wrong attitude. A change in the changing room can have as much influence as a change on the field.

Carroll has had one good season. In the past..... Kevin Phillips, Marlon Harewood, Carlton Cole, Micheal Ricketts, Andrew Johnson, Yakubu have all had good seasons....Its whether he can do the same year in year out. The jury is still out as far as im concerned. The fact he's English seems to give most of you lot an errection. I actually see it as a negative thing, other than the homegrown rule it can only be negative. The bad press, the women throwing themselves at you, the national pressure to acheive in a team of underacheivers.

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

Agreed apart from this. His technique is mediocre. It's the aspect of his game that will prevent him from ever being truly Champions League class.

He'll probably still score 30 goals for England and be sold for a combined career transfer fee in excess of 100m, mind. A very good player and very effectively in the Premier League (and internationally, I expect).

At 21 his technique and just about every other area of his game is only going to get better, so to say with definate certainty at this point that he'll never be true Champions League class is nothing more than guess work with little foundation.

One major thing that puts me off him is his technical ability. He looks really ackward running with the ball.

I would prefer Lukaku over him.

And anyone who doesn't prefer Lukaka is crazy. He is undoubtably the new 'Drogba'. Carroll is potentially similar to Les Ferdinand

maybe in football manager but back here in the real world a 17 year old kid who's never played outside of Belgium has a long long way to go before he even comes close to the next Drogba and Carroll has abit of the Shearer Ferdinands about him sure but at 21 I don't see how thats a bad thing

I didn't say that he wasn't strong, just that he is rangy and gangly rather than compact, and I think that is increasingly the prototype for the modern lone striker, someone who has a low centre of gravity and can interchange positions with flexible movement. Caroll is extremely 'Crouch-like' in many ways and I would much rather have a player like Conor Wickham if we are going to buy and develop a young English striker, as he has much more potential.

I'd be happy shipping out Keane and Pav for Carroll and Wickham. Carroll is also far less awkward than fecking Crouch and he has a far better presence, shot and header than the gangly one plus he's not built like a stick man

I think Carroll is getting alot of stick because he plays for everyones favourite joke club and he's got in abit of off the pitch trouble but he's a 21 year old who will make mistakes he just needs a good mentor like Redknapp who has developed his fair share of young English talent

 

[spudtrader]

This season, Crouch age 29, played - 14, scored - 1, assisted - 7.

Never scored more than 12 in a season in the prem, on average takes crouch over 4 games to get a goal in the prem.


Carroll age 21, Played - 18, scored - 10, assisted - 6. So not half the season played, and Carroll has almost scored as many crouch has in 7 full seasons. All this in Carrolls first full premiership season.


Dont you think top teams are wishing they had bought Gareth Bale after 'a good half season' last year? I think football wise Carroll would be a really good signing. Realistically i cant see us getting a Dzeko or Benzema or even Lukaku.

Having said this, i would be really surprised if he left Newcastle this winter, especially to us.

 

[danielneeds]

I didn't say that he wasn't strong, just that he is rangy and gangly rather than compact, and I think that is increasingly the prototype for the modern lone striker, someone who has a low centre of gravity and can interchange positions with flexible movement. Caroll is extremely 'Crouch-like' in many ways and I would much rather have a player like Conor Wickham if we are going to buy and develop a young English striker, as he has much more potential.

This is such Guardian podcast over intellectualised clap-trap. Any centre half in the world would not want to face a beast like Carroll, who bullies them wins everything in the air, and leaves them black and blue. Yes good movement is one way to crack a nut, but winning the physical battle upfront is another. He's not the finished article by any stretch, but he has real potential.

 

[mil1lion]

He has a pony tail. No thanks.

 

[Raxscallion]

Why would you like Carroll at the lane but not Barton? I assume your distaste for the latter has nothing to do with football and is mostly based on his extra-curricular activities. Surely Carroll's form with women should exclude him on that basis.

I'm always happy to see people given a few chances. Everyone screws up now and again. The difference with Barton is that he's on chance number 4,328.

 

[danielneeds]

I'm always happy to see people given a few chances. Everyone screws up now and again. The difference with Barton is that he's on chance number 4,328.

I think Carroll is a young kid who is the biggest noise in his particular town, it's gone to his head a bit, the difference with coming down to Spurs is rather than looking at the likes of Barton and Nolan to look up to, he would have Bale, VDV, Modric, and will see the preparation and dedication it takes to get to that level. It is all moot though, as he wouldn't be interested in leaving at the moment...

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

I think Carroll is a young kid who is the biggest noise in his particular town, it's gone to his head a bit, the difference with coming down to Spurs is rather than looking at the likes of Barton and Nolan to look up to, he would have Bale, VDV, Modric, and will see the preparation and dedication it takes to get to that level. It is all moot though, as he wouldn't be interested in leaving at the moment...

Not to mention Harry Redknapp the master mentor motivator

try saying that 3 times fast lol

 

[FromTheLane]

This is such Guardian podcast over intellectualised clap-trap. Any centre half in the world would not want to face a beast like Carroll, who bullies them wins everything in the air, and leaves them black and blue. Yes good movement is one way to crack a nut, but winning the physical battle upfront is another. He's not the finished article by any stretch, but he has real potential.

Fair enough, I see what you are saying. All I mean is that he often loses the ball very carelessly and can be extremely slack. He obviously has potential and will always be a very good Premiership player but just not sure he really has that much guile to be much more than that. Carlton Cole also bullies defenders.

 

[Misfit]

Fair enough, I see what you are saying. All I mean is that he often loses the ball very carelessly and can be extremely slack. He obviously has potential and will always be a very good Premiership player but just not sure he really has that much guile to be much more than that. Carlton Cole also bullies defenders.

He also seems allergic to scoring goals. I see both POVs. Not a huge fan of AC myself but I can see the attraction. He's young and has plenty of potential.

The only serious downside I see about him isn't a footballing one. He seems to be a trouble-magnet off the pitch.

 

[cnyy12]

Andy Carroll is as Geordie as they come and seems quite content to stay at Newcastle a long time. Good footballer though, he'll be playing for England a long time.

 

[hoddle1987]

anyone who can stick chances away is more than welcome in my view

 

[Gambler]

Fair enough, I see what you are saying. All I mean is that he often loses the ball very carelessly and can be extremely slack. He obviously has potential and will always be a very good Premiership player but just not sure he really has that much guile to be much more than that. Carlton Cole also bullies defenders.

None of our strikers bully defenders. Crouch came on today and did SFA as usual.