Match Threads Aston Villa Vs Spurs

[ShelfWatcher]

Usually the time we go all spursy. Has conte changed our mentality? Not long until we find out

So by going spursy you mean finishing top 4, 6 times in the past 12 years?

 

[hughy]

Come off it, that’s a silly statement. They’re a pretty good side.

I stand by it.

 

[Serpico]

Gooners are down to bare bones, so beating Brighton is no certainty, in fact if they play like they did against Palace, then Brighton will fancy their chances. Its down to grit and experience now and we should have more than Arsenal, but its football, so we still got to stick the ball in the back of the net.
Villa will be a good test, decent enough team, away from home, result will tell us a lot of where we are and what to expect over next 7/8 games, fancy us to beat them, but always have that nagging doubt of the whole lot not turning up on the day ala Burnley.

Burnley, Southampton and Wolves the weather was awful on all theres occasions, It's a leveller for these teams and we got punished. When we have good conditions as recent , we can perform and remove errors or most errors. We need to keep improving and be confident. No more slip ups and perform to our best ability thats all we can do.

 

[Trix]

Did you watch the first half. Palace were far superior...Arsenal were absolutely bossed.

Second half they changed it, Palace tired and Arsenal controlled it without creating that much.

But played well? No way...even Alan Smith conceded it was a night to forget.

Yeah but the question is how much of that was down to Palace and how much to Arsenal? It's my opinion that Palace refused to let them play not that Arsenal were poor or off their game. Them playing badly implies that Arsenal kept giving the ball away needlessly with poor passing etc not that Palace just cut off the passing lanes with tireless running, and pressed them out of the game.

 

[Yantino]

I think it was a bit of both TBH.

Palace were intense and snappy, full of energy. Didn't allow the goons any time. And Arsenal were very wasteful in possession. Constantly gave the ball away cheaply in the first half and some of that was down to how Palace pressurised them.

 

[Mr Pink]

Yeah but the question is how much of that was down to Palace and how much to Arsenal? It's my opinion that Palace refused to let them play not that Arsenal were poor or off their game. Them playing badly implies that Arsenal kept giving the ball away needlessly with poor passing etc not that Palace just cut off the passing lanes with tireless running, and pressed them out of the game.

Partey gave it away lots...unforced errors as well.

I'm not saying they were that bad...Palace's intensity was too much for them.

But physically they couldn't compete in the first half and you have to in a lot of these away games.

It's part of the game and they were poor at that.

Damage was done first half.

My initial post was responding to the statement that Arsenal played well. They didn't.

They were OK but lost the game because they lost the physical battle.

Normally a prerequisite for taking points in these games.

 

[spursfan77]

I have absolutely no idea what will happen Saturday but we have quite a good record there from memory, so fingers crossed.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Come off it, that’s a silly statement. They’re a pretty good side.

With no disrespect meant whatsoever. How was it a silly statement?

@hughy simply said he doesn't have any doubts (personally) that we'll beat Arseanal.

He's allowed to believe that? Free to have a bit of faith in the team?

Seems like it's silly for anyone to not be moaning, looking for things to worry about and come on here to proclaim the world is coming to an end.

Keep up the good work, @hughy ??

 

[Ron Burgundy]

With no disrespect meant whatsoever. How was it a silly statement?

@hughy simply said he doesn't have any doubts (personally) that we'll beat Arseanal.

He's allowed to believe that? Free to have a bit of faith in the team?

Seems like it's silly for anyone to not be moaning, looking for things to worry about and come on here to proclaim the world is coming to an end.

Keep up the good work, @hughy ??

OK, fine, seeing as we're being difficult about it - (honestly, in what world is questioning the statement "come on here to proclaim the world is coming to an end". You might not be disrespecting me, but you're putting a ton of bullshit in my mouth)

@hughy Hmmm, interesting that you think that.

In the game of football, where freak results happen (arguably) more commonly than in any other sport, having such infallible confidence going into a game against a team, who over the course of a 30 game season so far are basically level pegging with us, would arguably seem somewhat questionable.

After all, they're a pretty good side, and have strengths and weaknesses, much as we do. It seems to me that while we might be favourites, not least because we're at home and arguably have a better first XI, there's always an element of the uncertainty on game day (how could we, for instance, beat City away but lose to Burnley and Southampton), and much could come to pass between now and then. For example, Kane and Son could get injured, our confidence could be knocked by a few unfortunate results, who knows?

Still, you're entitled to your opinion. Hurray, aren't we all great and playing happily in the sand pit.

That better?

 

[Rogmeister]

So by going spursy you mean finishing top 4, 6 times in the past 12 years?

No by spursy I mean crumbling in the big games and when the pressure is on.

If we got trophies for taking part we would be loving it haha

 

[hughy]

OK, fine, seeing as we're being difficult about it - (honestly, in what world is questioning the statement "come on here to proclaim the world is coming to an end". You might not be disrespecting me, but you're putting a ton of bullshit in my mouth)

@hughy Hmmm, interesting that you think that.

In the game of football, where freak results happen (arguably) more commonly than in any other sport, having such infallible confidence going into a game against a team, who over the course of a 30 game season so far are basically level pegging with us, would arguably seem somewhat questionable.

After all, they're a pretty good side, and have strengths and weaknesses, much as we do. It seems to me that while we might be favourites, not least because we're at home and arguably have a better first XI, there's always an element of the uncertainty on game day (how could we, for instance, beat City away but lose to Burnley and Southampton), and much could come to pass between now and then. For example, Kane and Son could get injured, our confidence could be knocked by a few unfortunate results, who knows?

Still, you're entitled to your opinion. Hurray, aren't we all great and playing happily in the sand pit.

That better?

I don't know why you're reading so much in to this. We're playing better football than them, we're scoring more goals than them, we've (touch wood) been more fortuitous with injuries than they have, and we're playing at home where our fans have been great getting behind the team the last few games. We have a nicer fixture list leading up to the game which should maintain our form, so unless we lose 3 or 4 starters I'm confident we'll win the game, and I'd question any fan who isn't.

I get it's still over a month away, but that'll come around quickly.

 

[cjbyid]

I doubt villa will sit back. They'll try and play as they've some good players.

Should be a good game.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

So by going spursy you mean finishing top 4, 6 times in the past 12 years?

Says the guy who constantly tells us Conte has selected the wrong team, and predicts the end of the world before each game. ?‍

Never change, SW. Our honorary British Hank.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I doubt villa will sit back. They'll try and play as they've some good players.

Should be a good game.

I hope they do, but they've had a few dodgy results of late. They tried to play high press against wolves and got punished.

They also have a few mistakes in them. Anyone watching spurs recently would be tempted to mirror Newcastle's first half performance. Everyone behind the ball.

It's going to be interesting to see how they line up and a massive test for Gerrard.

 

[ShelfWatcher]

I think it's important not to focus on Arsenal. For example it's better that Arsenal win and we win, rather than Arsenal lose and we lose
Our next four games are winnable, win them and then even if Arsenal win all theirs we are putting pressure on the other contenders including Chelsea.
It's a five way conversation for 4th at the moment, we need to have the most powerful voice, not just rely on one other going quiet

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

OK, fine, seeing as we're being difficult about it - (honestly, in what world is questioning the statement "come on here to proclaim the world is coming to an end". You might not be disrespecting me, but you're putting a ton of bullshit in my mouth)

@hughy Hmmm, interesting that you think that.

In the game of football, where freak results happen (arguably) more commonly than in any other sport, having such infallible confidence going into a game against a team, who over the course of a 30 game season so far are basically level pegging with us, would arguably seem somewhat questionable.

After all, they're a pretty good side, and have strengths and weaknesses, much as we do. It seems to me that while we might be favourites, not least because we're at home and arguably have a better first XI, there's always an element of the uncertainty on game day (how could we, for instance, beat City away but lose to Burnley and Southampton), and much could come to pass between now and then. For example, Kane and Son could get injured, our confidence could be knocked by a few unfortunate results, who knows?

Still, you're entitled to your opinion. Hurray, aren't we all great and playing happily in the sand pit.

That better?

Firstly, the statement about the world coming to an end, was a general one, based on people simply refusing to have even the slightest bit of faith in the team.

It was NOT about what you said.

What you did say, was that @hughy was silly to believe that we'll beat Arsenal. That in itself is unfair, in my opinion. If it's what he genuinely believes, how is it silly?

He did not say "we will beat Arsenal" he said "I have no doubts we'll beat Arsenal".

2 very different things, and he's perfectly entitled to hold his own beliefs without being told he's silly for doing so.

Nobody, literally NOBODY was "being difficult", apart from you finding it difficult to believe, or accept that somebody is thinking differently to yourself.

Cheers for the wonderfully pleasant response, though. I hope you're able to find a bit of joy from the end of the season.

 

[jurgen11]

I think it's important not to focus on Arsenal. For example it's better that Arsenal win and we win, than Arsenal lose and we lose
Our next four games are winnable, win them and then even if Arsenal win all theirs we are putting pressure on the other contenders including Chelsea.
It's a five way conversation for 4th at the moment, we need to have the most powerful voice, not just rely on one other going quiet

Huh ?

 

[Westmorlandspur]

I think it's important not to focus on Arsenal. For example it's better that Arsenal win and we win, than Arsenal lose and we lose
Our next four games are winnable, win them and then even if Arsenal win all theirs we are putting pressure on the other contenders including Chelsea.
It's a five way conversation for 4th at the moment, we need to have the most powerful voice, not just rely on one other going quiet

Five? Are you including Wolves.
It’s us, Arsenal or Man Utd. The way we are playing means we are favourites. Villa will be a hard game after they have lost the last 2,

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

No by spursy I mean crumbling in the big games and when the pressure is on.

If we got trophies for taking part we would be loving it haha

Pretty much every game since we lost 2 on the bounce at the start of February, against Southampton & Wolves, where our season was being proclaimed as over & we'll be lucky to finish in the top 8, has had nothing but pressure. "Must win" being the most used term along the way.

Apart from an embarrassing defeat against a Middlesbrough side that played out of their skin. And a miserable night in a soppy Burnley, both lost by a single goal.

In between those games, when we were going to get battered by the runaway express that is Man City, we went and got a fabulous 2-3 victory in their own back yard.

We've since had "Must Win" league games against Leeds. 4-0 win.

Everton, 5-0 win.

Trip to Old Trafford, where we were undone by one of the best players to ever play the game. We were the better team, 3-2 defeat.

Brighton, 2-0 win.

West Ham, their bi-annual cup final, 3-1 win.

Newcastle, 5-1 win.

7 "Must win" games. 5 wins. 24 goals scored, 7 conceded.

This team that was supposedly going to be lucky to finish in the top 8, was going to finish behind West Ham, get left in the wake of Arsenal. It now sits 5 points behind 3rd position, above every team mentioned in this post apart from Man City.

The only crumbling under any pressure these days, comes from the people who should be backing these guys who have blatantly turned a corner, have belief in what they're doing on the pitch, and are getting the results their efforts have deserved.

The world class manager we have has been applying nothing but pressure since that Middlesbrough defeat, and these guys have done the opposite of what you say they always do.

They haven't crumbled, they've grown!

 

[ShelfWatcher]

Huh ?

Is what I wrote hard to understand??
Serious question, to me it's clear what I'm saying, but maybe it's not clear to others, if so happy to clarify?