Carlos Cueller - transferred to the Villa revolution
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Another Boumsong someone says...... :bs: It's not our fault Newcastle never bothered their arse actually scouting the guy against decent opposition over a longer period of time. We didn't even make it out of the UEFA Cup group stage that season. I watch Rangers week in week out, and I know what qualities you need to play in the Premiership, Champions League........and Cuellar has strolled it. I came on here and told you that Hutton was a bit raw, but definitely good enough and worth the money.........and am I right in thinking that was fair comment ? So don't pre-judge a player that in a few weeks time you could be fawning over :wink:
Cuellar is immense. He's one of the best centre backs in Britain, and potentially one of the best in europe. If you want to make the top 4, you sign players like him. His timing in the tackle is perfect, reads the game exceptionally well. His distribution is sound, although he's not a Ferdinand type who will stroll forward to dictate from deep. He'll keep it simple, but then it's a positive thing that he knows his limitations in this sense. He's pretty quick for a defender also, so can play in a high line if that's what Ramos wants.
I'll be gutted if he goes, but with our european blow, £12m would be a fair deal for us. He's very settled, but I reckon he was always going to move on at some point. Considering how low we are right now after Tuesday, in many ways I'd rather that he went now so that we can start from scratch and rebuild. Although I doubt we can truly do that with Walter Smith still here. I've backed Smith for so long, simply because he was getting results despite his questionable tactics/selections, but Tuesday was horrific and his team selection was embarrassing.
Cuellar is immense. He's one of the best centre backs in Britain, and potentially one of the best in europe. If you want to make the top 4, you sign players like him. His timing in the tackle is perfect, reads the game exceptionally well. His distribution is sound, although he's not a Ferdinand type who will stroll forward to dictate from deep. He'll keep it simple, but then it's a positive thing that he knows his limitations in this sense. He's pretty quick for a defender also, so can play in a high line if that's what Ramos wants.
I'll be gutted if he goes, but with our european blow, £12m would be a fair deal for us. He's very settled, but I reckon he was always going to move on at some point. Considering how low we are right now after Tuesday, in many ways I'd rather that he went now so that we can start from scratch and rebuild. Although I doubt we can truly do that with Walter Smith still here. I've backed Smith for so long, simply because he was getting results despite his questionable tactics/selections, but Tuesday was horrific and his team selection was embarrassing.
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Scotbear - has he been tried at defensive midfield before? He seems like the sort of player that could sit in front of the back four, never get forward and do a great job shielding the two centre backs. I know he's naturally a centre back, but if Woodgate and King get enough games, then he could be great in front of them for much of the season.
He's never played in front of the back 4 for us, always centre back. I guess he would possibly be capable of playing there, although his possession play might be questionable if asked to move higher up the park where he'll have less time.
You wouldn't sign him to play him there long term though. I can't see him playing at the top level anywhere else besides centre back. From what I've seen, King would be more suited to taking a step forward into the holding role. I think Woodgate and Cuellar would be a well balanced centre back pairing.
You wouldn't sign him to play him there long term though. I can't see him playing at the top level anywhere else besides centre back. From what I've seen, King would be more suited to taking a step forward into the holding role. I think Woodgate and Cuellar would be a well balanced centre back pairing.
Quicker than your average defender, but you wouldn't call him pacey like some modern day centre backs are that can keep up with fast strikers. But then good centre backs with such pace are in a tiny minority.
I've watched him for a year, and it's actually difficult for me to judge just how quick he is. His reading of the game and positioning is so good that he's hardly ever in a position where a forward manages to anticipate a through ball before he does.
He's quick enough is the best way I can put it. He's certainly not a defender who is beaten once you make him turn. He's well capable of striding back over long distances to recover from any mistakes he or his team-mates make.
£5-6million and we've got nothing to loose but Rangers will want £10 -12m then i'm not so sure. They won't sell him in any rate, I work in glasgow and the general concencus is that if they sold him there would be a massive uproar.
Doubt very much that Rangers' owners are that suicidal.
Doubt very much that Rangers' owners are that suicidal.
Kevealis
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Dont bet on it. Anything in the region of the Hutton transfer and Cuellar will be away alongwith the excuse "we need the money to recoup what we've lost from not making europe".
stevenurse
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who did he play for before rangers? was it osasuna? and helped get them into the cl? memory escapes me
bouncebackability
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Don't Enic own Rangers as well?!
Hardly putting money in their bank account....more like transferring funds accross?! They may well need it now having missed out on CL!
Hardly putting money in their bank account....more like transferring funds accross?! They may well need it now having missed out on CL!
tRiKS
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Thanks dude. i think i know what you mean. Woodgate isn't slow and isn't lighting either but ralely gets caught for pace by anyone because of his ability to position and defend. Cb's that are both excellent technical defenders and greyhounds are a rare combination... we have one when his knee permits. Rio at utd and toure at the goons are the excpetions (micha Richards could turn out to be as techical as he is fast)
One thing i've notice too about Woodgate is despite the fact he's a very clean tackler he's not adversed to the dark arts; tactical fouls, shirt pulls, trips. He escaped 2 pens in the CC final againt Drogba with some holding and pulling for example.
Is Cuellar on of those players that would instinctively scarifice a yellow card to stop the man? will he use covert shirt pulls and rib jabs out of view from the officials?
Kevealis
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Osasuna it was. And he helped them into the UEFA Cup Semi's where Sevilla (the eventual winners) put them out.
stevenurse
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Cant argue with that then can you? if anyone saw Osasuna they would agree they are a dreadful side. But as rangers showed (by no means a bad team) a strong defence can work wonders.
stevenurse
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It certainly does, and if we could find that balance of a solid back line, (and i think we are 1 centre back away) and our attack minded football there is no reason why we cant be very very successful next season. If this guy can cope with several games and we can rely on woody and king to rotate the other half then id be very happy. Ramos would know of him from his time in spain and I wouldnt put it past him to put in a bid. Him, Arshavin and a solid DM and we are almost certainly there
tRiKS
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I don't think this rumour has any truth in it wahtsoever but the more i muse over it the more i want it to be true. A very good player who happens to be Spanish so would feel comfrotable with the coach and playing with Woodgate. We really could confidently keep King on ice for the grandstand games.
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