David Moyes Manchester United Disaster

[Wolver]

No I get all that, but players have limited shelf life.
If United are not even in Europe and Spurs are, hey let's say even CL, then why would a player risk not playing in the European competition vs potentially getting there the season after, which is always a risk.

If Spurs aren't in the CL, and say both in Europa then yes, ok all the other factors override it. Man United with all their potential etc... But who is to say Man United keep all their best players if not in CL?

What if Barca or Real Madrid ask for Van Persie, what if Chelsea ask for Rooney?

Man United need a complete overhaul in Defence and Midfield. This will not be a one season fix and they run the risk of falling further off the pace in the mean time. Look at what happened to Liverpool when they dropped out! It has taken them this long to get back up there.

I think you're under estimating the draw of the £££ signs. Look at man city, they weren't in the champs league when they signed toure, silva, tevez and ade. I know man utd don't have anywhere near as much money as city and missing out on champs league could hurt them money wise, but isn't rooney still on like 250k/w, so not like they couldn't still compete.

 

[Riandor]

I think you're under estimating the draw of the £££ signs. Look at man city, they weren't in the champs league when they signed toure, silva, tevez and ade. I know man utd don't have anywhere near as much money as city and missing out on champs league could hurt them money wise, but isn't rooney still on like 250k/w, so not like they couldn't still compete.

But the unanswered question is what does loss of CL revenue do to that? And beyond... players who were borderline upset at mau United are going to be looking to leave for pastures new if not appeased.

£££ only gets you so far. Players want honours too abd Van Persie didn't leave Arsenal due to wages i can assure you.

 

[Mullers]

But the unanswered question is what does loss of CL revenue do to that? And beyond... players who were borderline upset at mau United are going to be looking to leave for pastures new if not appeased.

£££ only gets you so far. Players want honours too abd Van Persie didn't leave Arsenal due to wages i can assure you.

He won the league last season so that is more than he won at Arsenal. We have survived without CL football so they will definitely survive, besides all that this season isn't over, there is a lot of football to be played yet.

 

[Wolver]

But the unanswered question is what does loss of CL revenue do to that? And beyond... players who were borderline upset at mau United are going to be looking to leave for pastures new if not appeased.

£££ only gets you so far. Players want honours too abd Van Persie didn't leave Arsenal due to wages i can assure you.

Guess that all depends on how long they are out of the CL. Liverpool have managed and man u have a much bigger global fan base. And maybe a freshening up of the squad is what they need. like you say only time will tell and who knows season isn't over yet mathematically they could still get forth or win the CL...

 

[Riandor]

Well like us it really depends on how the players feel when or IF they don't qualify. We had players who stayed, but they weren't in it regularly. For some that might have been the only reason to stay vs go to Chelsea or Man City.

Too soon to tell for sure and lots of football left, heck mathematically we can still win the league at a canter, but hey...

Man United are a big entity and I don't have their financial books to hand, so its hard to know how reliant they are on that CL revenue in conjunction with sponsorship deals whilst in CL? After all they would likely have been set-up as almost guaranteed qualifiers and taken on financial responsibilities as a result of that belief.

Can Ma United continue to compete with Chelsea and City IF out of CL for a season or more? They are funded via debt more than oil after all.

I speculate entirely... but it could be very interesting to see what happens when an institution such as Man United falls from grace.

 

[Misfit]

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/02/12/exclusive-man-united-line-up-summer-bid-for-tottenham-pair/



Exclusive my arse... clearly ripped off of here! Think you should contact you're lawyers Misfit!

Bloody Nora. Plagiarised by caughtoffside. Talk about a back-handed compliment. Didn't even get the Daily Heil to bite.

 

[Wolver]

Bloody Nora. Plagiarised by caughtoffside. Talk about a back-handed compliment. Didn't even get the Daily Heil to bite.

Don't panic there's always tomorrow!

 

[JerryGarcia]

Didn't Bayern Munich have a bad slump a few years ago? I don't know how comparable it is but I imagine Utd will recover within a few seasons at the most.

 

[dagraham]

Man Utd are a money making machine. One or two years out of the CL is not going to change that. The dough they get from commercial activities is insane and for that reason they are actually far better placed to absorb FFP rules than any of the other big teams.

Will still be a massive blow for them not to be playing European football though.

 

[taidgh]

if united miss out on cl football this time around, they'll spend a load of cash to make sure they're back in. they can't risk it being more than a year imo.

 

[only1waddle]

if united miss out on cl football this time around, they'll spend a load of cash to make sure they're back in. they can't risk it being more than a year imo.

The question is whether they trust Moyes to spend that money in the summer?

 

[Wolver]

if united miss out on cl football this time around, they'll spend a load of cash to make sure they're back in. they can't risk it being more than a year imo.

Liverpool tried that, has taken them a few season to even challenge for 4th again.

 

[taidgh]

Liverpool tried that, has taken them a few season to even challenge for 4th again.

absolutely. i'm not saying spending will bring them cl footie again, but they have to spend to try to get back. this will be a massive failing on their part.

 

[Wolver]

absolutely. i'm not saying spending will bring them cl footie again, but they have to spend to try to get back. this will be a massive failing on their part.

Yea will be interesting to see Moyes's wish list, his targets over the summer were very unrealistic imo. And with all the oil rich clubs buying up anyone with any kind of hype/potential, think Utd might struggle

 

[SpursManChris]

Moyes' biggest fan.

 

[Montasura]

Couldn't be arsed checking so no idea if this has been posted before...

 

[beats1]

Man Utd are a money making machine. One or two years out of the CL is not going to change that. The dough they get from commercial activities is insane and for that reason they are actually far better placed to absorb FFP rules than any of the other big teams.

Will still be a massive blow for them not to be playing European football though.

There is one major factor that will drive the glazers hunger to back Moyes imo and that is the share price. Their share price dropped by £250million over christmas as fourth started to slip. If they do have another bad season, that share price may go much lower and start to make the glazers panic

 

[riggi]

Couldn't be arsed checking so no idea if this has been posted before...

I hope he smacks her bottom for that. Respect your daddy little girl, he's the one giving you nice things.

 

[OmarsComing]

I hope he smacks her bottom for that. Respect your daddy little girl, he's the one giving you nice things.

I might be going out on a limb here but there is a small possibility that the twitter account above is a parody account

Spoiler

 

[TottenhamLegend]

That is 100% a parody account. Some of the tweets are outrageous.