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stevenurse

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How true these comments are, but a mate of mine used to go out with one of the England ladies and spent a lot of time around the women's football scene, and yesterday said "It's a common *FACT* in the womens game that he dabbled with 15/16 year old girls back when he was in Bristol".

Now he could be talking shit, he could be bullshitting for no reason. Personally it seems strange that it would be the case and nothing said. Although he also mentioned that nobody wanted to rock the boat and risk losing out on the payments and perks that being in the England squad bring. If this was the case, or something a little less serious remains to be seen but either way the whole thing is a mess.

Personally I can't see it being known and nobody saying anything. Being a bit of a perv with the girls is one thing, noncing is quite another
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Before it gets out of hand, noncing, shagging players, or dangling his dick through a gloryhole, none of that is anything but rumour, so.......much like the Lamela business, it would probably be best left to discussing the facts.
 

talkshowhost86

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Before it gets out of hand, noncing, shagging players, or dangling his dick through a gloryhole, none of that is anything but rumour, so.......much like the Lamela business, it would probably be best left to discussing the facts.

Blimey.

Sounds like Bristol is a lot more 'interesting' than it used to be.
 

Danny1

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Seriously, what has our world become. Are people so fragile now that they would be offended by a sign about a Football Teams colours?

I would hope that actually no one would have been offended with the banner, and this is just "PC Gone Mad".

"FA cover up Tranmere’s ‘Super White Army’ banner
The Football Association covered up a Tranmere Rovers banner during an England Women’s match.

Prenton Park hosted the World Cup qualifying win between the Lionesses and Russia on Tuesday, with the hosts recording a comprehensive 6-0 win.

But the FA has confirmed it took the decision to obscure a sign declaring ‘Super White Army’ after several players shared an image of it on social media."
 

Cavehillspur

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Seriously, what has our world become. Are people so fragile now that they would be offended by a sign about a Football Teams colours?

I would hope that actually no one would have been offended with the banner, and this is just "PC Gone Mad".

"FA cover up Tranmere’s ‘Super White Army’ banner
The Football Association covered up a Tranmere Rovers banner during an England Women’s match.
Prenton Park hosted the World Cup qualifying win between the Lionesses and Russia on Tuesday, with the hosts recording a comprehensive 6-0 win.

But the FA has confirmed it took the decision to obscure a sign declaring ‘Super White Army’ after several players shared an image of it on social media."
Agree, that is utterly ridiculous.
 

Maxtremist

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FA was warned about employing England women's manager

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41345690

This is not looking good for anyone involved here. Seems like there's so much smoke here that Sampson certainly isn't coming out of this clean but sounds like the FA are having a mare for letting it go on this long. Whatever the grounds were to sack him, it seems like something they knew or could have found out sooner and avoided this whole mess in the first place.

Just a whole load of shit really.
 

Maxtremist

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Seriously, what has our world become. Are people so fragile now that they would be offended by a sign about a Football Teams colours?

I would hope that actually no one would have been offended with the banner, and this is just "PC Gone Mad".

"FA cover up Tranmere’s ‘Super White Army’ banner
The Football Association covered up a Tranmere Rovers banner during an England Women’s match.
Prenton Park hosted the World Cup qualifying win between the Lionesses and Russia on Tuesday, with the hosts recording a comprehensive 6-0 win.

But the FA has confirmed it took the decision to obscure a sign declaring ‘Super White Army’ after several players shared an image of it on social media."


Yeah... to be fair I can see why they'd cover up that banner. Is it straight up racist? No. Is it something you'd wanna try and avoid promoting? Yeah probably.

Just a case of them essentially going 'You know what? This isn't the image we want to portray especially when our manager still has racist charges lodged at him'
 

hellava_tough

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So I mentioned earlier that the Metro had quoted the FA's CEO as saying nothing illegal had taken place. Here's the quote:

Despite Sampson being cleared in 2015, FA CEO Martin Glenn, reviewed the report in detail and he decided, along with the FA board, that Sampson had ‘overstepped the professional boundaries between player and coach’.
Although it is not clear exactly what Sampson did, Glenn stressed that his behaviour did not reflect the type of conduct expected to be shown by an FA employee.
‘Nothing illegal to our knowledge took place,’ Glenn said.
‘It is an issue about the relationship between coach and players.
‘We have seen the information and decided the conduct was not what we want from an FA employee.’


Read more:http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/21/what-...-womens-football-coach-6944646/#ixzz4tJexsH6l

Make of that what you will.
 

Danny1

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Yeah... to be fair I can see why they'd cover up that banner. Is it straight up racist? No. Is it something you'd wanna try and avoid promoting? Yeah probably.

Just a case of them essentially going 'You know what? This isn't the image we want to portray especially when our manager still has racist charges lodged at him'

Still don't agree though. Its all just a bit pathetic now in this country full of snowflakes who get offended when someone says black or white. My main issue is that by taking it down it actually doesn't help the situation as its now plastered all over the BBC, had they left it there very little probably would have been said.
 

Gbspurs

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Yeah... to be fair I can see why they'd cover up that banner. Is it straight up racist? No. Is it something you'd wanna try and avoid promoting? Yeah probably.

Just a case of them essentially going 'You know what? This isn't the image we want to portray especially when our manager still has racist charges lodged at him'

Its not the fans fault the colour of their kit is white. We sing blue and white army but that's ok because of the bit of blue? The most racist thing you can do is making 1 rule for 1 and something else for others.

The tranmere banner is only racist taken out of context and its those taking it out of context that are racist not the club or fans.
 

talkshowhost86

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Its not the fans fault the colour of their kit is white. We sing blue and white army but that's ok because of the bit of blue? The most racist thing you can do is making 1 rule for 1 and something else for others.

The tranmere banner is only racist taken out of context and its those taking it out of context that are racist not the club or fans.

To be fair our song is monstrously racist against the Hulk and other green people.
 

Navin R Johnson

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So I mentioned earlier that the Metro had quoted the FA's CEO as saying nothing illegal had taken place. Here's the quote:

Despite Sampson being cleared in 2015, FA CEO Martin Glenn, reviewed the report in detail and he decided, along with the FA board, that Sampson had ‘overstepped the professional boundaries between player and coach’.
Although it is not clear exactly what Sampson did, Glenn stressed that his behaviour did not reflect the type of conduct expected to be shown by an FA employee.
‘Nothing illegal to our knowledge took place,’ Glenn said.
‘It is an issue about the relationship between coach and players.
‘We have seen the information and decided the conduct was not what we want from an FA employee.’


Read more:http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/21/what-...-womens-football-coach-6944646/#ixzz4tJexsH6l

Make of that what you will.
The more I read about this the more it stinks. If he requires sacking because of the comments he made to the black and mixed race players then that's what should happen but to sack him for behaviour they'd previously condoned is cowardly when it's obviously an excuse to avoid confronting the race issue head on. It's poor leadership from the FA and disrespectful to those who have been offended, I'm sure Aluko would have forgone the eighty grand pay off and have her grievances taken seriously.
 

UncleBuck

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Is that Ebola comment even racist? Given there was an outbreak at the time I think most were concerned with anyone traveling from infected regions regardless of colour. Hell there were even travel bans, is that racist?

I guess a flippant remark about an African country could be regarded as xenophobic but comedians get away with worse every day. Stupid situation.
I'm a bit behind on this but TS said the FA gave her £80k to not talk about it but if she was quizzed she could answer any press questions.
Why on earth was she given £80k by the FA?
Nice to see grass roots subs fees going to a good cause though, good to hear the FA might be called to parliament as well as I'm sure they'll be able to share some tips....
 

Maxtremist

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Still don't agree though. Its all just a bit pathetic now in this country full of snowflakes who get offended when someone says black or white. My main issue is that by taking it down it actually doesn't help the situation as its now plastered all over the BBC, had they left it there very little probably would have been said.

Fair enough that you don't agree. I'm just saying seeing that as a banner would certainly make me take a second glance etc...
FA felt it would cause that affect and decided not to feature it. Not their fault that someone's then made a story out of it. For better or for worse, when Sampson has just had to deal with racist charges and the FA are dealing with that and his recent fallouts, I can understand them playing the super safe route in all of this.
 

Maxtremist

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Its not the fans fault the colour of their kit is white. We sing blue and white army but that's ok because of the bit of blue? The most racist thing you can do is making 1 rule for 1 and something else for others.

The tranmere banner is only racist taken out of context and its those taking it out of context that are racist not the club or fans.

To be clear, I never said the banner was wrong at all. I just said I can understand the FA not showcasing it. They decided to cover it up and not make a big deal out of it, that's all. Sadly it's backfired as there's a story surrounding it. The banner itself is fine, just an issue that it could potentially be taken out of context and with all that's going on I'd image they wanted to avoid any unnecessary controversy.

So not a case of one rule for one and something else for another, just a case of being aware you're in the spotlight.
 

Gbspurs

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To be clear, I never said the banner was wrong at all. I just said I can understand the FA not showcasing it. They decided to cover it up and not make a big deal out of it, that's all. Sadly it's backfired as there's a story surrounding it. The banner itself is fine, just an issue that it could potentially be taken out of context and with all that's going on I'd image they wanted to avoid any unnecessary controversy.

So not a case of one rule for one and something else for another, just a case of being aware you're in the spotlight.

But covering it up is making a big deal of it surely? That's admitting fault with it. If it is potentially offensive enough to be covered up then it should be taken down altogether.
 

Maxtremist

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But covering it up is making a big deal of it surely? That's admitting fault with it. If it is potentially offensive enough to be covered up then it should be taken down altogether.

I don't think it's a big deal (but that could just be semantics I admit). It's Tranmere's nickname and chant or whatever and that's fine for them but it's not England's. A couple of England players shared it on social media and the FA saw that and decided to not showcase that.

I personally think simply not showcasing something isn't that much of a big deal. Especially in this case. As I've alluded to a bit I think it's just the FA saying we don't want this to be England's chant or directly associated with England. Having it for Tranmere is fine and that's part of their club but it's not part of the England team so let's not make that a thing.
 

worcestersauce

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I'm astonished that there is any discussion on a white army banner at a football match where your team wears white, I'm sure there are considerate people who genuinely care about other people's feelings but for Christ sake what are they on?
They are wrong and the fact that anybody questions that makes me sad for the state of the world.
Absolute bollocks.
 
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