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TommyW

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For all of you blaming Gomez, you know they played us off the park after we scored right?

Errrr, they did? They had a lot of the ball but they barely created a meaningful chance the entire game! That was our best defensive performance of the season IMO. Chelsea just reverted to pop shots from range
 

beals

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Yes because that is what the whole thread is about. IF a defender made a sloppy back pass and the opposition scored wouldnt he be accountable ?

The number of saves he made during the match are what we expect of him, they werent "world class" saves IMO so therefore they shouldnt count towards cancelling out his mistake.

Fair enough if you wish to look at it like that, however would you not count the players who missed good chances up the other end as culpable as Gomes for the draw? I know I do, I understand what your saying about this thread but its a team game and we are only as strong as the sum of the parts.
 

gibbs131

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Errrr, they did? They had a lot of the ball but they barely created a meaningful chance the entire game! That was our best defensive performance of the season IMO. Chelsea just reverted to pop shots from range

After we scored, we didn't have a single shot on target after that.

A pen is a pop shot from range?
 

al_pacino

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A pen is a pop shot from range?

Well it was him that gave it away.

Up until the goal, which he clearly should've done better with, I think he looked as good as he has done in ages. His handling was good, he was getting us moving quickly, he just looked secure.
 

gibbs131

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For the 90 mins we had 38% possession. At home.

They had 7 corners for our 1.

Gomez was punching out corners, tipping over Palacios headers, making regular saves and basically shitting himself because WE COULD NOT GET THE BALL. We were overrun for long periods of the game once we scored.

I swear you all just watch the highlights sometimes.

Gomes was just as bad as the rest of the team. The fact that we are talking about him, speaks volumes about the Tottenham way. And why we refuse to to look at the game subjectively. Like how Keane was invisible. How Modric could not control the game for us. How our strikers can miss, how our decision making is poor in the final third etc etc.

They had 8 shots on target compared to our 1. Cud only had one save to make and he fucked it up, but Gomes gets the brunt of our anger?
 

gibbs131

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Well it was him that gave it away.

Up until the goal, which he clearly should've done better with, I think he looked as good as he has done in ages. His handling was good, he was getting us moving quickly, he just looked secure.

From yet ANOTHER ATTACK that our midfield and defense failed to break up.
 

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For the 90 mins we had 38% possession. At home.

They had 7 corners for our 1.

Gomez was punching out corners, tipping over Palacios headers, making regular saves and basically shitting himself because WE COULD NOT GET THE BALL. We were overrun for long periods of the game once we scored.

I swear you all just watch the highlights sometimes.

Gomes was just as bad as the rest of the team. The fact that we are talking about him, speaks volumes about the Tottenham way. And why we refuse to to look at the game subjectively. Like how Keane was invisible. How Modric could not control the game for us. How our strikers can miss, how our decision making is poor in the final third etc etc.

They had 8 shots on target compared to our 1. Cud only had one save to make and he fucked it up, but Gomes gets the brunt of our anger?


maybe that's because the ref had his chav shirt on and everytime we broke he let them hack the shit out of us from kick off. They created very little even their goal was lucky were as ours was pure quality. Pen aside their best chance was a header by our own player which Gomes did make a quality save from. Just because they had more possesion and more shots on target all long rangers doesn't mean they were bossing the game. We looked more dangerous on the attack and if the ref hadn't of been a **** we'd of had more freekicks and possesion as a result.

sometimes I wonder if you actually watched the game or just read the stats afterwards :duh:

we've had plenty of threads about the strikers this one just happens to be about the goalkeeper
 

TommyW

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For the 90 mins we had 38% possession. At home.

They had 7 corners for our 1.

Gomez was punching out corners, tipping over Palacios headers, making regular saves and basically shitting himself because WE COULD NOT GET THE BALL. We were overrun for long periods of the game once we scored.

I swear you all just watch the highlights sometimes.

Gomes was just as bad as the rest of the team. The fact that we are talking about him, speaks volumes about the Tottenham way. And why we refuse to to look at the game subjectively. Like how Keane was invisible. How Modric could not control the game for us. How our strikers can miss, how our decision making is poor in the final third etc etc.

They had 8 shots on target compared to our 1. Cud only had one save to make and he fucked it up, but Gomes gets the brunt of our anger?

I think you were the one watching the highlights to be honest! Modric was controlling the game for large parts, Palacios had the best game hes had in about 18 months, Hutton and Ekotto were both superb defensively, and Dawson slotted back in after 3 months out admirably. Chelsea had lots of the ball second half but didn't look like troubling us defensively at all until Gomes dropped a bollock for Drogbas goal.
 

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For the 90 mins we had 38% possession. At home.

They had 7 corners for our 1.

Gomez was punching out corners, tipping over Palacios headers, making regular saves and basically shitting himself because WE COULD NOT GET THE BALL. We were overrun for long periods of the game once we scored.

I swear you all just watch the highlights sometimes.

Gomes was just as bad as the rest of the team. The fact that we are talking about him, speaks volumes about the Tottenham way. And why we refuse to to look at the game subjectively. Like how Keane was invisible. How Modric could not control the game for us. How our strikers can miss, how our decision making is poor in the final third etc etc.

They had 8 shots on target compared to our 1. Cud only had one save to make and he fucked it up, but Gomes gets the brunt of our anger?


Exactly. We didn't fail to win this game because of individual errors by Gomes or Dawson, We failed to win this game because we were collectively piss poor as a team and showed no bollocks, and no brains for much of the 90 minutes.

We let, a frankly, piss poor Chelsea team (confidence wise) dictate the game to us for 2/3 rds of it in our own back yard, and then look for an individual scape goat.

This game was very simialr to the Arsenal and Chelsea ones at home last year, but as a couple of us said, you are not going to get that lucky too many times if you keep letting the opposition have the ball and the players you hope to punish them with on the break or fairly stupid.
 

gibbs131

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I think you were the one watching the highlights to be honest! Modric was controlling the game for large parts, Palacios had the best game hes had in about 18 months, Hutton and Ekotto were both superb defensively, and Dawson slotted back in after 3 months out admirably. Chelsea had lots of the ball second half but didn't look like troubling us defensively at all until Gomes dropped a bollock for Drogbas goal.

Palacios had his best game BECAUSE we had to defend. And he is bloody good at it. Modric did his tippity tappity routine and his usual "out" if he gets near the goal. He never has the confidence when he gets in front of goal that he does in the middle of the park. He either falls over or blasts it over the bar.

We controlled large amounts of the game? He is our playmaker, 1 shot on target and he had nothing to do with that anyway. He did not control the game, he had an ok performance from a well rounded aspect, he surprised me in aspects that he usually fails at, tackling, heading and cutting out passes. But he wasn't involved enough. He makes us go sideways too often.

Why can he keep his balance in the middle of the park like a world class player, then flop around as soon as he gets anywhere near the goal. That is the difference between a top 4 midfielder, and a "nice little player".

He bottles it.

But this is about Gomes. So I don't want to get into the Modric thing too deep. I think he had was OK. OK is not top 4 given his responsibility and role.
 

Bulletspur

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I here what your saying however its a team game so is it fair to pick out one players contribution? I agree on the penalty but Gomes still made a number of good saves in the match that would of been goals if he hadn't saved them. So my thinking is those saves out weight the mistake for Drogba's goal.
Exactly!!
 

piedpiper

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what amazes me is some of the responses we have on here. "Gomes is the best keeper we have had in 20 years, He makes some incredible saves" are we at his mercy because he is the best we have had in 20 years ? i may as well use the argument that our current strikers got us 4th last year so stop complaining we have never had it this good.

Gomes has obvious flaws and some strengths. right now the flaws are of concern to me. in a crucial game or two he could cost us the game just like he has done this season already. it is not about the chelsea game in isolation.
 

Damian99

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Why can he keep his balance in the middle of the park like a world class player, then flop around as soon as he gets anywhere near the goal. That is the difference between a top 4 midfielder, and a "nice little player".

Absolute utter fucking nonsense. You can still be a world class midfield player irrespective of what you do in front of goal. He does fluff his lines in an around the box more often than not but he showed exceptional skill and composure in the champions league the other week against Werder with a neatly taken goal.

Scoring a goal is the hardest thing to do in terms of football, while on the television it would appear to be very simple.
 

Bulletspur

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I think you were the one watching the highlights to be honest! Modric was controlling the game for large parts, Palacios had the best game hes had in about 18 months, Hutton and Ekotto were both superb defensively, and Dawson slotted back in after 3 months out admirably. Chelsea had lots of the ball second half but didn't look like troubling us defensively at all until Gomes dropped a bollock for Drogbas goal.
Bollocks!! Yes, Palacious BAE Hutton and Dawson along with Modric, Bassong and GOMES all played well, but Chelsea had the most possession and broke us down contiously but our defenders held their ground. I have to agree with Gibbs on this one. I honestly think that the draw was a fair results only because of the efforts of our players that I just named.
 

TommyW

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Bollocks!! Yes, Palacious BAE Hutton and Dawson along with Modric, Bassong and GOMES all played well, but Chelsea had the most possession and broke us down contiously but our defenders held their ground.

You say its bollocks and then agree with pretty much everything I said :rofl:
 

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Absolute utter fucking nonsense. You can still be a world class midfield player irrespective of what you do in front of goal. He does fluff his lines in an around the box more often than not but he showed exceptional skill and composure in the champions league the other week against Werder with a neatly taken goal.

Scoring a goal is the hardest thing to do in terms of football, while on the television it would appear to be very simple.


nothing new for old gimpy there then lol
 
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