Gudjohnsen =The Business

[SlickMongoose]

So if we keep Keane, who do we sell?

 

[Sanj]

After the recent Gudjohnson love in where his performances have been good (not great - despite some of the comments on here) i thought that the performance against sunderland was abysmal.
Didn't look interested, ditherered on the ball, didn't work for the team or link up with either of his strike partners.
I think he will show up well against some of the lesser teams, or when our midfield is on top - but i doubt he can be the player to really inspire us to fourth in the harder games.

 

[rebrab]

Looked sluggish yesterday, hopefully just an off game

 

[Sanj]

Lets hope so, tho i do have my reservations about him having watched him for Barca regularly over the last 2 seasons.
I was very suprised he started ahead of Crouch against the strength and size of Sunderland, tho starting against pompey wouldn't suprise me and may be his type of game.

 

[Chimbo!]

After the recent Gudjohnson love in where his performances have been good (not great - despite some of the comments on here) i thought that the performance against sunderland was abysmal.
Didn't look interested, ditherered on the ball, didn't work for the team or link up with either of his strike partners.
I think he will show up well against some of the lesser teams, or when our midfield is on top - but i doubt he can be the player to really inspire us to fourth in the harder games.

one bad game and the knives are out... it is unbelievable considering he inspired our win against Stoke, a place few teams get anything from. He is a good player who has the ability to be an important player for us.

He is an attacking, creative player who has not played often in the last 6 months. He is bound to be hot and cold, especially when the team is struggling with injuries and is constantly chopping and changing.

Any player needs continuity to be consistent and there has been anything but continuity in the last few months. He gets the best out of players around him but if they are always changing then he is constantly having to readapt.

 

[Sanj]

The knives are not out.
I hope he succeeds in guiding us to 4th and has a great career at the Lane. However i had my doubts previously and i still do. I wanted to point out that he is not as great (yet...) as the original thread maker and a number of posters here state.
One bad game you state, but if could easily be stated as 1 good game (against 10 men of stoke) in which he scored a VERY GOOD goal and set up a goal with a very good stepover - did he really do a lot more in that game?
He may be ht and cold - but at this stage of the season we do not need that. He has experience and is the sort of player who should be inspiring and lifting a struggling team, not hiding and looking uninterested.
I was particularly disappointed by his lack or desire and poor attitude yesterday. A poor performance can be excused, a lack or desire or passion or effort cannot.

 

[Krafty]

My worry is that he is dropping far too deep. Perhaps this is planned, perhaps its his nature, but he is pushing our central midfield too deep, and the defence too deep. We arent pressing the opposition high enough up the pitch, we invite pressure, and we dont have the discipline nor defensive quality to stay solid at the back in this scenario.

With Luka in the middle we need to push up so that he gets the ball on the halfway line and higher. This should allow the strikers to push the opponents defence deeper and we can get balls into the box.

 

[StartingPrice]

:roll:

It was a poor performance...by the whole team...in an away game that is always difficult...against a team that was obviously very fired up...with a crowd that is always fired up against us...with most of the team missing or playing out of position.

Get over it:bang:

 

[stemark44]

I think he had an ok game but he had little service.
He was playing with Pav who looked as if he had never seen a ball,never mind kicked one before this game.

 

[wizgell]

Rated him very highly for a long time, even when he was at Chelsea. Was delighted to see him come in at Spurs and hopefully we can keep hold of him, he is a class act and such an intelligent player. It's been said before and I'll say it again, it's the closest will get to ever having Teddy Sheringham back at Spurs

 

[hybridsoldier]

I think he had an ok game but he had little service.
He was playing with Pav who looked as if he had never seen a ball,never mind kicked one before this game.

lol! very well put!

I think its way too early to make any judgement on Eidur except his experience can only be an asset to the club

 

[king26]

eiders football brain is worth three of keanes

 

[Pinto]

eiders football brain is worth three of keanes

While I agree Eidur's brain is very important I think it might only be slightly better than Keane's in his prime. When Keane and Berbatov were working together in perfect harmony I am not sure Keane was too far off Eidur.

 

[Sanj]

Too far off eidur?
Keano - who's scored 100+ goals for us (so far), who led the team by example, who fought tooth and nail for the team, who inspired those around us, who formed a fomidable partnership with Berbatov, and good partnerships with others. HE IS NOT FAR OFF Eidur?
Eidur is a good player, but Keano has been a better player at national and international level and is a far better player than Eidur has ever been.

 

[Marty]

Wow, some heavy Spurs-tinted specs there.

Gudjohnsen shone at Chelsea under Ranieri/Mourinho and was a genuinely outstanding player. Before then he was a superb up-and-coming player at Bolton, and after he had a tougher time at Barca but still featured regularly. He has won the PL, the FA Cup, La Liga and the CL.

His international career is hampered by him coming from a tiny island with 250,000 inhabitants in which he is the only real football star, and he pretty much always plays well for Iceland no matter what result the team gets. Therefore his international career cannot in any way, shape or form be compared to Keane who has the benefit of playing with some half-decent players.

Over the span of his career so far he has continuously been better than Keane, and proved his worth at every big-money move he got. Get those Spurs-tinted specs off mate.

 

[hybridsoldier]

To be honest whenever I saw him play for Barca he was quite good, very subtle player who kept it ticking. I think he could have stayed on there but he wanted to play 1st team football, you can't knock that.

Gudjohnsen in general terms is a better player than Keane, over the last 10 years he has been playing at a consistently higher level than Keane (lets face it if Robbie was that good someone would have nicked him off us alot earlier), and won a barrell full of trophies.

Gudjonsen was, is, and going forward will always be a better player than Robbie Keane.

Dot get me wrong I love Keano, he's a Spurs legend, but if we are talking football here and not spurs, the answer is obvious

 

[3Dnata]

I think he looks good coming on as sub; I'm still not convinced by his fitness.
But he has experience at a level we want to get to so I'd keep him at present.

 

[Son_Of]

Eidur is a good player, but Keano has been a better player at national and international level and is a far better player than Eidur has ever been.

you're not being reasonable here Sanj. it's hard to judge an icelandic player on international performances but at club level, eidur is very accomplished, with years of delivering the goods at high end of prem, la liga and CL

 

[Sanj]

Really Son_of?
you say its hard to judge an icelandic player on international performances - but Keane hardly plays for a great international team, and it can be argued that he has been integral to their success.
As for what he did at Chelsea, i though he was a good player - who was often over-rated due to playing for Chelsea in the start of their golden era. I have never rated him as highly as many others have - tho i do concede he was a good player.
His performances in LaLiga were poor, and it says a lot that he was moved from striker/ support striker to a makeshift midfielder who played in games against the smaller team, or can on as a sub for 10-15 mins.

 

[StartingPrice]

Really Son_of?
you say its hard to judge an icelandic player on international performances - but Keane hardly plays for a great international team, and it can be argued that he has been integral to their success.
As for what he did at Chelsea, i though he was a good player - who was often over-rated due to playing for Chelsea in the start of their golden era. I have never rated him as highly as many others have - tho i do concede he was a good player.
His performances in LaLiga were poor, and it says a lot that he was moved from striker/ support striker to a makeshift midfielder who played in games against the smaller team, or can on as a sub for 10-15 mins.

There is a far bigger gulf between Ireland and Iceland than there is between Ireland and England.
I haven't joine dthis argument, but this part of it just doesn't hold any water.