Harry Redknapp

[kungfugrip]

If I am in DL's position and Harry goes. The job is a choice between AVB and Benitez. I would have gone for Rodgers based on his coaching philosophy but he went to liverpooh and he has never actually won anything elite.

Football/Sport in general has changed. Coaching is a Science now and for that reason I would go for AVB.

In his book Steven Gerrard slates the man management of Rafa Benitez. He's all tactics, tactics, tactics and not so good on dealing with the players. Complete opposite of Harry?

 

[keepthehomefiresburning]

Im still gobsmacked why people dont rate Moyes he has done miracles with next to no money and has also brought through some very exciting youngsters at everton e.g Rodwell,Barkley and a few others.

All i keep hearing is he plays boring football do you honestly think he would still deploy the same type of football with the players we have i dont think so?

Its funny cause almost everyone would take Mourinho but seem to forget about the boring football he played at Porto,Chavski and yet at Madrid with better attacking players they are playing a more attacking brand of football something which wasnt seen at his previous clubs.

I would rather have Moyes than Martinez or Benitez as manager should Harry leave i think the fact he is constantly linked with United to replace baconface is a sign he is a very good manager.

 

[ethanedwards]

Yes Harry is the best we can get and the best in the EPL. Who has a better record right now managing in the EPL?

any new manager is a risk, but unless it's a big name i simply cant see our key players wanting to stay.

There are managers outside the PL.

 

[EastLondonYid]

In his book Steven Gerrard slates the man management of Rafa Benitez. He's all tactics, tactics, tactics and not so good on dealing with the players. Complete opposite of Harry?

This is what alot of posters don't realise, yes tactics are obviously important, but to get the best out of players week in week out season after season you need a good man-manager who can spot a player rather than a genius tactition, and a manager that would be able to motivate the quality playes he has put together, a great manager would also employ top coaches to deal with most of the tactics, thats where i think Harry has failed, i cant really imagine Bond/Jordan being top tactitions, well i would be shocked if they were.

I saw Souness on Goals on Sunday last year, and he said that through all the glory years at Liverpool, Bob Paisley hardly ever spoke to them, yes thats extreme, but makes you think,And i have read many ex-Clough players saying he was rarely on the training ground and hardly seen, the secret i think lies with knowing how to put a team together and keeping them interested,keep them motivated and let them know you won't accept anything but 100%,let the coaches coach...and the manager manage, its whats on the label isn't it? and why Harry has got away with what he has for so long

I think harry is a very good manager... with not vey good coaches by his side.

 

[kishman]

What i'd really like to know from all the strong pro-Harry fans on here is:

Do you think that Harry is the best manager we could have at the club and do you think that by replacing him with someone else that the person who comes in couldn't achieve more with us based on the current players we have?

This is exactly what happened with Jol in 07. We thought Ramos was the way forward but in fact he was taking us backwards.

Can we bring in somebody better? I honestly don't know. However Harry's done a great job, and I honestly think if we didn't have the whole England fiasco we would've finished 3rd. With a distraction-free season, I still believe Harry can take us forward.

So was Harry....to our, and ultimately his detriment now.

think you're going to be disappointed...

Why because you think Harry will be sacked? Or because he'll still be here and we won't go anywhere?

 

[Phantom]

Im still gobsmacked why people dont rate Moyes he has done miracles with next to no money and has also brought through some very exciting youngsters at everton e.g Rodwell,Barkley and a few others.

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Personally I do like Moyes but have concern on a few things which are not shortcomings but the uknown. What will he be like with more money, more expectation/pressure, how well does he handle a larger squad, how many of his signings have been a result of the Evertons scouting team rather than him etc

Something that is a concern is the slow starts which Everton always make, something that you cannot afford if you are chasing 4th/3rd spot. Is it down to how he prepares the team or his coaching staff (who may go with him).

 

[Harry_Snatch]

In his book Steven Gerrard slates the man management of Rafa Benitez. He's all tactics, tactics, tactics and not so good on dealing with the players. Complete opposite of Harry?

Not even the best man manager can keep every player happy. It all boils down to winning. Is fergies hair dryer/boot kickings good man management?
Harry has done a good job. Not slating him at all, just saying if there is a change thats the way I'd go. TBH I would go with AVB.

 

[Robbiepope]

What i'd really like to know from all the strong pro-Harry fans on here is:

Do you think that Harry is the best manager we could have at the club and do you think that by replacing him with someone else that the person who comes in couldn't achieve more with us based on the current players we have?

It's a huge risk to force Harry out and one which in my view is far more likely to backfire then suceed. Bearing in mind realistic managerial targets there is no manager who I can see improving on a two out of three top four record.

 

[Robbiepope]

The irony with Moyes would be that a lot of Everton fans resent him for talking their club down with realistic ambitions. Have a quick look on a Everton fan forum, they wouldn't all be crying if he left.

 

[Wirral Spurs]

We must have something lined up. DL's track record of having a replacement ready to go when we part company would indicate there is. Deschamps maybe?

 

[VincenzoCoccotti]

Im still gobsmacked why people dont rate Moyes he has done miracles with next to no money and has also brought through some very exciting youngsters at everton e.g Rodwell,Barkley and a few others.

All i keep hearing is he plays boring football do you honestly think he would still deploy the same type of football with the players we have i dont think so?

Its funny cause almost everyone would take Mourinho but seem to forget about the boring football he played at Porto,Chavski and yet at Madrid with better attacking players they are playing a more attacking brand of football something which wasnt seen at his previous clubs.

I would rather have Moyes than Martinez or Benitez as manager should Harry leave i think the fact he is constantly linked with United to replace baconface is a sign he is a very good manager.

The last bit is why I don't want him

Fergie has to retire sooner rather and later and if Moyes has a good season next year with us we could well be needing another manager a year down the line when Utd come calling and would anyone seriously turn down the Utd job?

 

[brasil_spur]

Yes Harry is the best we can get and the best in the EPL. Who has a better record right now managing in the EPL?

any new manager is a risk, but unless it's a big name i simply cant see our key players wanting to stay.

I can't see what we'd struggle with a big name manager, apart from their salary (which would depend i suppose on whether they needed compensation or not) i can't see any real problem why we can't attract a top manager.

Harry wasn't even deemed good enough for the England job, yes he has done well at Spurs but he has excellent players to work with here, something no other manager in the last 10 years can say.

 

[WhiteHart4Ever]

Im still gobsmacked why people dont rate Moyes he has done miracles with next to no money and has also brought through some very exciting youngsters at everton e.g Rodwell,Barkley and a few others.

All i keep hearing is he plays boring football do you honestly think he would still deploy the same type of football with the players we have i dont think so?

Its funny cause almost everyone would take Mourinho but seem to forget about the boring football he played at Porto,Chavski and yet at Madrid with better attacking players they are playing a more attacking brand of football something which wasnt seen at his previous clubs.

I would rather have Moyes than Martinez or Benitez as manager should Harry leave i think the fact he is constantly linked with United to replace baconface is a sign he is a very good manager.

Moyes has been at Everton - a club almost comparable to us - for 10 years, during that time he has won nothing, qualifying for CL qualification but failing to go through once, and qualifying for the Europa League three times. He has consistently delivered mid-table top-half finishes, with the 17th in one of his first seasons the major exception. I suspect you have to go back a long time to find another manager being given a 10 year stint at a club and coming out with less to show for than Moyes - essentially giving to Everton more or less what we got with a series of fairly useless managers from the early 90s until Jol, and I suspect with similar kind of resources as we spent fairly limited money during those years.

For me Moyes is unlikely to be able to bring a club significantly forward. He is a very solid manager that has his team playing good defensive football, passing the ball rather uneventfully around looking for openings through flicks and headers and lucky bounces. He might be the kind of guy that could keep a ship steady, though, and I'd rather fancy his chances continuing what Ferguson has been doing at United (a team that is also essentially a touch dull, but incredibly solid) compared to changing and improving a free-flowing, entertaining team like ours.

That's why.

 

[Blockbuster]

I can't see what we'd struggle with a big name manager, apart from their salary (which would depend i suppose on whether they needed compensation or not) i can't see any real problem why we can't attract a top manager.

Harry wasn't even deemed good enough for the England job, yes he has done well at Spurs but he has excellent players to work with here, something no other manager in the last 10 years can say.

without kidding yourself we all know Harry was the best candidate for the job. based purely on footballing reasons there was no better person for the England job than Harry. He managed in CL, achieved top 4 success. Roy hadn't in England.

Anyway, lets hope you are right and we can attract a top manager, because our fall from grace will make us a big laughing stock.

 

[Robbiepope]

I can't see what we'd struggle with a big name manager, apart from their salary (which would depend i suppose on whether they needed compensation or not) i can't see any real problem why we can't attract a top manager.

Harry wasn't even deemed good enough for the England job, yes he has done well at Spurs but he has excellent players to work with here, something no other manager in the last 10 years can say.

We struggle to sign big name players so why would we not struggle to sign a big name manager? We couldn't pay him top wages or promise to sign top players. You think a big name manager would be happy to work under our restrictions in terms of player wages?

Harry was not deemed good enough by the FA. I wouldn't use the FA as a parameter of judging whether Harry was good enough for England.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

We must have something lined up. DL's track record of having a replacement ready to go when we part company would indicate there is. Deschamps maybe?

Deschamps would be a great shout, his Juve stats are a bit screwie because of what league they were in (i think he was the boss in Seria B?) but he won the French league and got Marseille into the quater finals of the CL, cant be bad, cant be bad.

I also think we can get a top name boss in, we have huge potential, and even though i like Harry, and to be honest i wouldn't have begrudged him taking the England Job, he practically stopped working for 3 months when he thought he had it, and that is why we are seeing the turmoil now, he thought he saved is ass getting 4th right at the end, but Chelsea saw the end to that, and its the reason he went for a big time agent, because he knew he screwed it up and he couldn't deal with DL for a new contract.

 

[brasil_spur]

This is exactly what happened with Jol in 07. We thought Ramos was the way forward but in fact he was taking us backwards.

Can we bring in somebody better? I honestly don't know. However Harry's done a great job, and I honestly think if we didn't have the whole England fiasco we would've finished 3rd. With a distraction-free season, I still believe Harry can take us forward.





Why because you think Harry will be sacked? Or because he'll still be here and we won't go anywhere?

I think it's Harsh to say that Ramos tool us backwards. Ok so our league position that season wasn't great but we'd already achieved our goal of UEFA league football early on and had won our first piece of silver ware in nearly a decade.

His start to the next season is what killed him, but we had almost as bad a start to the season that Jol was sacked and almost as bad an end to this season as the 2 points from 8 games start under Ramos.

I agree without the England fiasco i doubt we'd be talking about this right now, but the England fiasco did happen and either that or some other fiasco may well happen again, this season, at which point we've seen the effect it can have.

We need a distraction free season with Harry fully committed to the club, which currently it seems he isn't - and clearly wasn't during the whole England manager debacle.

The other big issue that people are forgetting with Harry is that despite our piss poor transfer windows of late we've managed to continue with good form as we had a large squad to start with.

However having sold off players like Pav, Kranjcar, Keane and Crouch since last summer and not yet replaced any of these and with having isolated players like Bassong, Corluka, Jenas, Bentley and Gomes we're now left with a fairly lightweight depth of quality squad, again especially if you consider that Saha, Nelsen, King, Gallas and Friedal are all getting very close, if not passed, their best by dates. Oh and then there's the probable loss of Modric this summer.

Add all that together and you have a recipe for disaster when it comes to our squad at the start of next season.

Add into that mix that Levy doesn't seem to have enough faith in Harry to let him invest the money we need to bring the squad up to scratch.

Add into all of that the millions of pounds that has been spent on the new training facilities and the new kit technology that we'll have next season and Harry's almost certain reluctance to utilise any of that to close to its full potential and i think we have a position whereby unless Harry comes out in the press and says he absolute loves Spurs and wants to stay here and is happy to sign whatever deal is put in front of him, his position as manager isn't the best thing for the club.

 

[brasil_spur]

We struggle to sign big name players so why would we not struggle to sign a big name manager? We couldn't pay him top wages or promise to sign top players. You think a big name manager would be happy to work under our restrictions in terms of player wages?

I've not seen any evidence for this really.

Jol was sacked at a cost to the club.

Ramos was paid good money to come by his own admission and there was compensation paid to Sevilla.

Ramos was then paid compensation when sacked and Harry paid a 'dizzying' amount of money by us to become manager and compensation again to Portsmouth.

All this was done without us every qualifying for the champions league.

The most Harry would possible cost in compensation is a couple of million quid. We'd then need to pay compensation if we chose a manager who's attached to a club, but both amounts shouldn't be any greater than what we paid out with the whole Ramos affair.

As for wages - Harry is on a good amount and with bonuses no doubt amongst the top 4 or 5 PL manager earners and probably amongst the top 15 in Europe.

(Also don't forget the Euro is weaker at the moment for any Euro based managers we'd be looking to attract).

 

[Blockbuster]

Sounds like you are making excuses for the next manager already!!

what do we reckon 6th? 7th? next season

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

One thing that will help us attract a top new manager is the wages we pay (bizarrely, considering it's the opposite re players)..

Redknapp is the 10th highest paid manager in the world - on a par with Ferguson and Wenger.

We could actually offer to double Klopp's salary for instance.