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Jan Vertonghen Signs

raf18

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Very nice indeed. Hopefully it doesn't hinge on what happens next week. Sounds positive.
 

AngerManagement

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Get him in to form a CB partnership with Kaboul.

That way we could afford to loan out Caulker again and keep Dawson and Gallas as back up to those two (with King either on a pay as you play or retiring and Nelson being let go to the States)

If Caulker is ready to come back and play great, but what's better for his development at this stage? PL football week in week out for another year on loan or fighting for his place (and maybe being a bench warmer all year)

2 strikers, a Keeper and a winger and we would have a nice little squad in the making

Naughton brought back in to cover both full backs, if the winger we bring in is a worldy like Hazard then Lennon becomes the wing back up able to cover both flanks (and an excellent impact sub)

Adebayor either made full time or another striker capable of linking up play and holding the ball comes in, also a prolific striker to upgrade Defoe should come in. Defoe should be sold as he had a relatively good season and its probably our last chance to command a decent fee for him (Saha can stay as back up I suppose)

Interesting to see what happens with Pienaar, he's again proved his worth at Everton but still its hard to see where he fits with us
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Actually a sorting out a stable set of CBs who are more likely to be fit for the majority of the season is a rather important requirement for us, and I would say is close to being as important as finding a long term GK solution, finding a couple of strikers and a goal scoring winger.

Especially as I can see Gallas and Nelson both leaving at the end of the season.

Kaboul, Dawson, Vertonghen and Caulker, would give us an exciting set of CBs to choose from, which I think we can all agree is exactly what you would expect of a set of CB for a club aiming to win things.

Yes I agree that it is important for us to build a good defensive unit, which will probably be 3 first choice CB's (or at least 3 CB's of first choice standard fighting it out with each other), 2 FB's and a GK. We already have 2 first choice CB's (in Kaboul and Caulker) and 2 FB's (Walker and Benny with Naughton as back up). Which means another reliable CB and a top class young GK are needed. The GK would seem more important to me and I really hope we can get one of the top young GK's in the world who will stay in our side for the next 10 years. For the CB Verthongen would be perfect and although I do have concerns about stunting Caulker's progress I think he will be first choice for us by the end of the season.
 

felmani26

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Yup, certainly sounds encouraging from Jan but as always, until I see his name plastered across the OS, I will remain cautiously optimistic!
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Get him in to form a CB partnership with Kaboul.

That way we could afford to loan out Caulker again and keep Dawson and Gallas as back up to those two (with King either on a pay as you play or retiring and Nelson being let go to the States)

If Caulker is ready to come back and play great, but what's better for his development at this stage? PL football week in week out for another year on loan or fighting for his place (and maybe being a bench warmer all year)

2 strikers, a Keeper and a winger and we would have a nice little squad in the making

Naughton brought back in to cover both full backs, if the winger we bring in is a worldy like Hazard then Lennon becomes the wing back up able to cover both flanks (and an excellent impact sub)

Adebayor either made full time or another striker capable of linking up play and holding the ball comes in, also a prolific striker to upgrade Defoe should come in. Defoe should be sold as he had a relatively good season and its probably our last chance to command a decent fee for him (Saha can stay as back up I suppose)

Interesting to see what happens with Pienaar, he's again proved his worth at Everton but still its hard to see where he fits with us

I wouldn't be surprised if Caulker was in the England squad for the Euros. He has been one of the top CB's in the league this season (right up there in tackles, headers, clean sheets etc.) and definitely one of the 5 best English CB's this year. I don't know why we would have any concern about him stepping up for us, he's played in a Premiership side that has faced more attacks than us and has done his job to the highest level. I am a big fan. Caulker would be a big upgrade on anything we have put next to Kaboul this season.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Caulker was in the England squad for the Euros. He has been one of the top CB's in the league this season (right up there in tackles, headers, clean sheets etc.) and definitely one of the 5 best English CB's this year. I don't know why we would have any concern about him stepping up for us, he's played in a Premiership side that has faced more attacks than us and has done his job to the highest level. I am a big fan. Caulker would be a big upgrade on anything we have put next to Kaboul this season.

I totally agree
 

felmani26

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I wouldn't be surprised if Caulker was in the England squad for the Euros. He has been one of the top CB's in the league this season (right up there in tackles, headers, clean sheets etc.) and definitely one of the 5 best English CB's this year. I don't know why we would have any concern about him stepping up for us, he's played in a Premiership side that has faced more attacks than us and has done his job to the highest level. I am a big fan. Caulker would be a big upgrade on anything we have put next to Kaboul this season.

You really think Woy is going to pick an (internationally) unproven player, albeit talented, Caulker over the main protagonists in Terry, Lescott, Smalling, Jones though?
 

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Vert = Green
Blue and Yellow = Green

All Hail The Phantom!

Im off to get his name on the back of my shirt
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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You really think Woy is going to pick an (internationally) unproven player, albeit talented, Caulker over the main protagonists in Terry, Lescott, Smalling, Jones though?

It wouldn't surprise me at all. One of the main reasons that Roy got the job was his backing of the National academy and that he would develop the youngsters as oppose to the Harry option of 'win now' and playing veterans. It's not like Caulker is completely unproven he has been a central part of one of the biggest success stories in the Premiership this year, all the Swansea fans rave about how good he has been and he has been capped at U21 level. Nobody can convince me that Jones is better or has had a better season than Caulker.
 

AngerManagement

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I wouldn't be surprised if Caulker was in the England squad for the Euros. He has been one of the top CB's in the league this season (right up there in tackles, headers, clean sheets etc.) and definitely one of the 5 best English CB's this year. I don't know why we would have any concern about him stepping up for us, he's played in a Premiership side that has faced more attacks than us and has done his job to the highest level. I am a big fan. Caulker would be a big upgrade on anything we have put next to Kaboul this season.
The only reason to loan him would be to keep him playing having paid money for Vertonghen, otherwise why bring in Vertonghen?

I suppose it could be Kaboul who makes way or we could simply throw Caulker in and let the strongest survive so to speak but I am just working on the logic that its better for him to play week in week out than it would be to sit on our bench and with Kaboul rather established currently and if we paid big money to bring in Vertonghen I'd suspect chances are Caulker would start as a back up (maybe even behind Dawson and/or Gallas) and this might not be the best thing for him at this time.

If as you say he is already ready to step into our first team why sign Vertonghen? on top of that who do you relegate? Nelson obviously would be off and one of King/Gallas too I assume.

Would you sell Dawson and replace him with Caulker? or just over load that area with an extra couple of CB's by signing Vertonghen and recalling Caulker?
 
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