Jermain Jenas

[InOffMeLeftShin]

It's difficult to believe anything in the papers this time of year, and I'd be suprised if there was much truth in this one. However for Harry coming here from Portsmouth it must be natural for him to compare us to the team he had there last year. Whilst we have some quality and for sure some players who he must rate highly, there must be a point where he looks at our midfield and thinks that something isn't right. Last year he had a central midfield of Muntari and Diarra. One is now playing at Inter and the other at Real Madrid and to be honest our central midfield is miles away from that kind of quality.

It's hard to argue though that we don't play better as a team when Jenas is in the side, whatever you think of him as an individual. For that reason alone I think Harry will see him as an important part of the squad. Unless someone comes in with a very big offer for him I don't see Harry letting him go.

 

[Wiener]

i know for a fact that however bad jenas played he had to start when he was fit as he had a clause in his first contract with us when he first signed ... i knwo this as im friends with our ex assistant managers son.

How do you explain Jenas being benched yesterday? You must feel like a bit of an idiot now. You probably are one, based on your rather inflated opinion of your footballing knowledge.

 

[sparx100]

Lets face facts that our central midfield is awful.

Both Jenas and Zoko are athletes, but with limited football ability.

Huddlestone has the talent, but not the physique or pace to back it up.

O'Hara is a trier - you will always get 100% out of him. The only player to put a real foot in and mean to tackle.

Modric is a player who will be class for this side, but as the players alongside him are lightweight, the midfield gets ploughed over.

Jenas will not be missed by me if he went. People who go on about us missing him are blinded by the 1 game in 5 where he puts in a performance - funnily the other 4 wil be glazed over. Sorry but Zoko is more of an athlete and maintains a higher level of consistency (albeit I think he should be a squad player only). Problems in midfield stem from our inabilty to pass the ball (having any technical abillty), and being able to harrass the other teams midfield and put a tackle in. Until we find a player who can do this, then Modric will be ineffective and the team will continue to suffer.

IMO, Harrys priorities need to be a couple of CM and a backup GK. That is it. The Left side is not a priority for the remainder of this season.

 

[Petyr]

The thing is if Jenas is allowed to leave he will probably go somewhere like Villa, where he would be a definite trade up on Petrov, and be really successful.

no, he wouldn't

Petrov has been Villa's best CM this season

 

[worcestersauce]

Worcester sauce, can you back that up with examples?

He's turd. No example needed...

Don't have to I didn't make the points I refuted them and you are just wrong.

Basically I think you have summed up a lot of peoples attitude on here, as far as they are concerned he is a turd and it has nothing to do with his ability has it.

 

[worcestersauce]

To be honest I think Jenas has had enough of Tottenham and the fans anyway ,I suspect he would be happy to be on his way, If I was him I would and I've been a supporter since birth.

 

[mil1lion]

No surprise that Jenas is not vice captain anymore. Its just not in his game. I'd have O'Hara wear the armband before Jenas. Its got to be King>Woodgate>Dawson>O'Hara>Jenas for me.

Theres no way Harry will sell Jenas. Maybe in the summer if Appiah comes good and signs long term. But he is still one of our better players. The papers dont seem to pick up on the fact that Jenas was injured and only returned yesterday, so that why he was on the bench.

In the long run, with Zokora, Jenas, O'Hara and now possibly Appiah as hard working box to box midfielders, i think we'll have to sell at least one. I would choose between Zokora or Jenas. With the African Cup of Nations affecting Zokora that could sway it as Appiah would also go. But Zokora is more versatile than Jenas and offers a lot to the squad. Its a tough one.

Sod it, replace em both :smile:

 

[DC_Boy]

time will tell - I hope JJ leaves - I think it's best for all concerned

I suspect it won't be in this window

while he's with us and deserves to be in the team (as he does currently) I'll be supporting and even if he doesn't play well i'll still support him, because he has been treated terribly by many spurs supporters

 

[markie]

I think we would be better off getting rid of zoko and keeping jenas who has proved on many occasions that he can play football. He has scored a lot more goals than Zoko (Not that thats hard) He can pass forward a lot better and he is more intelligent with his positioning. If Jenas was played week in week out alongside some good footballers he would be great

 

[DC_Boy]

I think we would be better off getting rid of zoko and keeping jenas who has proved on many occasions that he can play football. He has scored a lot more goals than Zoko (Not that thats hard) He can pass forward a lot better and he is more intelligent with his positioning. If Jenas was played week in week out alongside some good footballers he would be great

Couldn't agree more markie - have some rep -but the JJ witch hunt is now of such proportions I think he's best out of it

a lot will hang on the pompey game - if fit he should start

if he starts will he be pilloried even more than normal by our 'supporters'

 

[markie]

I can almost gaurentee that Zokora will line up alongside Modric. Jenas and Hudd will be benched again and Portsmouth will run all over us.

Cant wait...

If Harry doesnt move things around we will just keep losing. Its a shame because we have such talent in our squad just being wasted

 

[DC_Boy]

Yep it's problem time Markie

well HR picks the team - so the pro and anti camps of various players will have to see what happens

I'll support any team that trots out on sunday - all I want is the best for us - and I'm not quite sure what that is ATM

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I can almost gaurentee that Zokora will line up alongside Modric. Jenas and Hudd will be benched again and Portsmouth will run all over us.

Cant wait...

If Harry doesnt move things around we will just keep losing. Its a shame because we have such talent in our squad just being wasted

Modric and Zokora can play together, but not if there is no other attacking outlet in midfield as Modric will just get ganged up on.

Modric and Lennon as the attacking midfielders, with zokora defensive (or King), and O'Hara battling, that sounds good to me.

However, after recent poor form I would not be shocked to see Modric find his arse on the bench and Jenas put in. I'd rather that didn't happen, but we aren't in a position to be patient with players

 

[markie]

Back to the awful combination of Zokora and Jenas with Defoe in front.. Oh dear..

 

[johnmc]

Jenus is an enigma. Just as Tottenham are an enigma. Plenty of ability and plenty of potential. They just do not show it any where near often enough. I agree Jenus is one of those players that you tend to miss more when he does not play, mainly due to his very high work rate. A lot of which goes unnoticed. He is a better player than Zokora for me, but we cannot in all reality go into games hoping Jenus is going to turn it on for us. It just never seems to happen. The problem for me is Both Jenus and Modric would be better served with a proper DM player alongside them. Yes it's that old chestnut again. And I doubt if you could play both of them if you had that missing link. A problem that Harry has to sort out doubly quick.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Back to the awful combination of Zokora and Jenas with Defoe in front.. Oh dear..

Wow, one game in and already you write the guy off.

Imagine if we'd done that 1 game in with berbatov after he was outmuscled and uninvolved on his debut away to Bolton.

 

[markiespurs]

Wow, one game in and already you write the guy off.

Imagine if we'd done that 1 game in with berbatov after he was outmuscled and uninvolved on his debut away to Bolton.

well said :clap:

people seem to forget how shit Berbatov was for his first couple of games for us.

 

[C-oops]

Not sure if anybody watches Revista de la Liga or downloads the Revista Xtra podacst from Sky Sports but having watched the podcast this week Graham Hunter said that Juande Ramos wanted Jenas rather then Diarra but that the Diarra deal was pretty much done before Ramos got there. He also said there was a chance that Ramos could go back for Jenas.

Can't see it happening but if it does I don't care how much we get for him. Wouldn't care if he was given a free transfer if it meant getting rid. He is exactly the type of player Harry was laying into yesterday. He's not good enough to be of any use in getting us out of this mess we're in. The rot set in after the carling cup final last year. The only players I think that have performed AND given their all since then are Woodgate, King ( when fit) and possibly Dawson this season. The ones that have remained in the squad haven't done both and some have done neither. Of those that have come in only Corluka, recently Gomes and in patches Modric, has impressed me. Yesterday was a sorry excuse for a performance and surely has to have been the last chance for some players. When Jenas came on he gave the ball away and/or lost his man 5 times in 10 minutes. I will be glad to see the back of him and anyone else who isn't putting 100% into saving us from relegation and trying to salvage something from this season.

Sorry if this is a rant and not put into words well enough....

 

[kernowspur]

Oh boy the JJ witchunt is in full voice. JJ is a better player than Zokora with more footballing ability and knowledge. Zokora's positional ability is dreadful a lot of the time and he often lets his man run off him while ball watching. However, it may now be best for JJ to leave as he will never be liked by some fans. If he ever did go to La Liga he would be a success and Ramos knows that.

 

[C-oops]

Zokora would be a better squad payer than Jenas. He's much more versatile.