chrissivad
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Keane Form
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gregga
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Personally I think once Keane reaches 100 goals (which he will do this season) he will be a spurs legend and you'd hard pressed to deny it.
chrissivad
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Why, is that a magical number and i will wake up and think Keane scored 100 goals for us... god he must be a legend?
Does that mean Sheringham isn't a legend for us? im sure he was just short of 100 league goals
gregga
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Not many strikers these days manage a century for one club so yes I do think that feat in itself is enough to qualify for legendary status.
Regarding sheringham, I feel he is a legend because he scored so many goals in a pretty poor team, winning the golden boot one season in the process, and came back to help us build a new team under hoddle.
DJS
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Nah, feel free mate! :wink:
That's really surprising - I really though Sheringham would have scored over 100 goals for us! :think:
No-one has scored 100 Premier League goals for us yet, although Sheringham was closest with 97.
Keane is currently on 91 and Defoe on 64...
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robbiesavagehasbreasts
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He hasn't the same pace, same hunger, same touch anymore.
Luka Lennon
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Keano aint a legend. Very good player for us at one point but legends are players like Greaves, Blanchflower, Mackay, Lineker, Gazza, etc...
Keano just doesn't measure up to them imho. Also how his form has completely died out for us when he's supposed to still be in his prime that's not the stuff of legendary players.
Keano just doesn't measure up to them imho. Also how his form has completely died out for us when he's supposed to still be in his prime that's not the stuff of legendary players.
C0YS
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wherever you draw the line from legend and not, Keane is in an ellite group of spurs players, and was our most consistent scorer since Greaves if I am correct. Which is pretty darn impressive. Since its intruduction he has also one the most player of the year awards.
Legend status is not always a mark of the actual ability of the player but more to the contribution of the player overall. Be it in ability/time etc. The Keane years at Tottenham have been many and he has played some good football in many of those seasons. Legend status is also relevent to the time period the player is from, Keane comes from a very transitional stage (we hope) of Spurs, one with moderate successes and one trophy win. In that time like it or not he was our emblem. At that time go to any country in the world and if you mentioned Spurs to people with intrest of football Keane will be a word that would come up pretty quickly. Keane would also be mentioned on tv offen. Keane and Spurs had a serious link. Keane was our symbol. This plus 100+ goals a feat very few spurs players have managed does push Keane into that bracket. Keane never was the player to burn a bright spark before before buggering off someway or another, keane is not a legend in that way, and nore will he ever be on the list of Spurs's greatest like Blanchflower, Mackay, Hoddle, Gazza etc. but what he is a player who until the liverpool saga never let us down, he never had a bad season, even when on the fringes. Who fought for his place when others thought he might just not be good enough. He has been a constent success, who was an Icon for an era of Tottenham Hotspur FC. Now if that is not enough to make legendery status, then it must be enough to be recognised as a Spurs player who will be imbeded in the history of spurs as an important member, and an actually quite good player aswell.
Legend status is not always a mark of the actual ability of the player but more to the contribution of the player overall. Be it in ability/time etc. The Keane years at Tottenham have been many and he has played some good football in many of those seasons. Legend status is also relevent to the time period the player is from, Keane comes from a very transitional stage (we hope) of Spurs, one with moderate successes and one trophy win. In that time like it or not he was our emblem. At that time go to any country in the world and if you mentioned Spurs to people with intrest of football Keane will be a word that would come up pretty quickly. Keane would also be mentioned on tv offen. Keane and Spurs had a serious link. Keane was our symbol. This plus 100+ goals a feat very few spurs players have managed does push Keane into that bracket. Keane never was the player to burn a bright spark before before buggering off someway or another, keane is not a legend in that way, and nore will he ever be on the list of Spurs's greatest like Blanchflower, Mackay, Hoddle, Gazza etc. but what he is a player who until the liverpool saga never let us down, he never had a bad season, even when on the fringes. Who fought for his place when others thought he might just not be good enough. He has been a constent success, who was an Icon for an era of Tottenham Hotspur FC. Now if that is not enough to make legendery status, then it must be enough to be recognised as a Spurs player who will be imbeded in the history of spurs as an important member, and an actually quite good player aswell.
Luka Lennon
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They are the legends to me anyway. The special players who could win games single handedly. Keano will be remembered as a good player who scored alot of goals over a long period of time but there's plenty of strikers I'd take over him just from the 90s onward Lineker, Sheringham, Berbatov, Klinsmann, Doherty and Rasiak
I don't know how you can say he's been our most consistent scorer since Greavesy either as we've had plenty of strikers score at a more consistent rate than him over the years so that seems abit crazy to me. Keano tarnished his Tottenham status with the whole scousers saga but not only for fecking off in our time of need but also for how he's played since he's come back he looks a shadow of his former self for us like his hearts not in it.
Lastly I don't think a good player who stays at a club for a long time and does a good job is a legend I think a legend is a special player who creates history at a club by winning or performing better than most other players in his time. Keano will be remembered as a good servant to the club but the whole scouse saga will go down in history with him and how he's so far failed to perform close to his best since he's come back. I hope he gets his mojo back as we need as many goals as we can get from our strikers.
I remember back when Jol was here and Keano was competing with Defoe for a starting spot it was like everytime he came off the bench he scored a goal and he forced Jol to start him. Now it's just like he's going through the motions running around abit and couldn't really be arsed whether he scores or not.
EastLondonYid
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Linekar a legend?
I wouldn't never have old gary as a spurs ledge .
He came to us and did very well, scored goals and we won the the F.A cup.But to achieve legendary status is IMO,is not really on.
I am not one of Keane's greatest fans, but if Linekar is a legend, then so is Robbie, he has scored more goals for us, and IMO, given much more effort and sweat for the shirt, than gary ever did.
Irrelavent of how poor robbie is now, you can't deny what robbie has given to us....
i, by the way, think robbie and gary , just fall short of being legends, but if i had to choose, robbie comes closer than gary.
Gary is however , an England legend, that is abit different to being a spurs one though.
tommyt
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This thread is 3 years old and people just join in with their opinions like they have read the whole thing
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Everything in life must eventually come to end, and unfortunately Keane's now reached this point.
He does not now possess the required attributes for a top quality premiership striker and we all must now face this fact. Yes, he has been a great servant and a massive player for us in the past, but that's now history and we will now move onwards without him.
He does not now possess the required attributes for a top quality premiership striker and we all must now face this fact. Yes, he has been a great servant and a massive player for us in the past, but that's now history and we will now move onwards without him.
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A legend lives and bleeds for the club. At the end of his career he looks back and says that was my club, those were the best years of my life. Those fans were the greatest I ever played for. This is where my heart belongs.
Keane lives and bleeds for himself. As long as he's in the side he's happy. When he's not his unhappiness comes before the good of the team. When another "bigger", "better" club comes along he jumps ship. At the end of his career he'll still be a Liverpool supporter or Celtic or whatever... he's not a legend, not by any stretch.
What he is/was is a very good Premier League player who fulfilled the terms of his contract to his utmost and who served us very well, just as he was served well by us in return. A pro in other words.
Keane lives and bleeds for himself. As long as he's in the side he's happy. When he's not his unhappiness comes before the good of the team. When another "bigger", "better" club comes along he jumps ship. At the end of his career he'll still be a Liverpool supporter or Celtic or whatever... he's not a legend, not by any stretch.
What he is/was is a very good Premier League player who fulfilled the terms of his contract to his utmost and who served us very well, just as he was served well by us in return. A pro in other words.
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I genuinely believe that with a run of games, Robbie would rediscover a high level of form and prove that he is up to task. The problem is that this will only happen if all of the other three get injured, which would be a disaster and not something we should wish for. Basically, robbie will only gain form if we carry him until he does, and doing that in any situation other than an injury crisis is madness I'm afraid.
Also, I wouldn't call him a legend. He's been a very good player for us, a great goalscorer, but I can't talk about him in the same breath as our greatest players. Obviousely the double winners, all of them. Greaves, our best scorer, Perryman as our longest servant, Hoddle for being the biggest talent and always being loyal, Gazza and Ginola for the short but magnificent impact they made, and Ardiles for everything he brought, but not Keane for me, I dont think a legend would split opinion this much, and I definitely believe him to be amongst the best of the modern era. Campbell and Berba would have been I feel, and Bale, Modric, VDV, Gomes and perhaps Lennon may be one day depending on how they sustain their good work so far and how much loyalty they show. King probably is, and Mabbutt definitely was. I don't think Keane falls into the category of any if these players (or, potentially for some) because he doesn't combine as much talent with as much relationship with the fans, and while I don't cry about the move to Liverpool, one must admit that it's relevant.
Also, I wouldn't call him a legend. He's been a very good player for us, a great goalscorer, but I can't talk about him in the same breath as our greatest players. Obviousely the double winners, all of them. Greaves, our best scorer, Perryman as our longest servant, Hoddle for being the biggest talent and always being loyal, Gazza and Ginola for the short but magnificent impact they made, and Ardiles for everything he brought, but not Keane for me, I dont think a legend would split opinion this much, and I definitely believe him to be amongst the best of the modern era. Campbell and Berba would have been I feel, and Bale, Modric, VDV, Gomes and perhaps Lennon may be one day depending on how they sustain their good work so far and how much loyalty they show. King probably is, and Mabbutt definitely was. I don't think Keane falls into the category of any if these players (or, potentially for some) because he doesn't combine as much talent with as much relationship with the fans, and while I don't cry about the move to Liverpool, one must admit that it's relevant.
tooey
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As much as id love for him to find his form and bring back the old robbie i just dont think its there anymore. He hasn't even shown glimpses in honesty. Lennons been getting slated recently for being off form with many suggesting we should drop him. But because robbies a loveable smiley irishman who seems likeable, people keep holding out, leaning on false hope and demanding he be given a run of games.
He never was a world class player, he juts had a world class striker playing alongside him in his best 2 years.
He never was a world class player, he juts had a world class striker playing alongside him in his best 2 years.
Luka Lennon
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In the 3 seasons Lineker was with us he was a goal scoring machine. One of the best strikers in the world scoring about 80 goals for us in 3 seasons that's legendary numbers imo. Not to mention the brace in the semi's against the scum when him and Gazza led us to victory in a proper cup when it still meant something to win it.
The only thing Keano has on Lineker is time with the club but during his time here he's never came close to reaching the heights Gary did. Lineker is a legendary striker and Keanos nowhere near his level.
