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ItsBoris

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Within a month this will be the case but right now letting Lloris settle until the pressure is off is a good idea.

We have to be careful that the pressure actually eases instead of increases though. There will be more pressure if we "finally" start Lloris and he doesn't have a great game. I don't think it's something that the cynical, hateful media will forget about.
 

nav007_2000

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I dont seem to understand why we need to ease in Lloris. He can handle the pressure. He is the France captain for god sake and has been playing in the champions league for many seasons. He needs to play and needs to play NOW.

Yes Freidel hasnt missed a game for so long but i'm afraid its out with the old and in with the new.
 

jonnyp

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I dont seem to understand why we need to ease in Lloris. He can handle the pressure. He is the France captain for god sake and has been playing in the champions league for many seasons. He needs to play and needs to play NOW.

Yes Freidel hasnt missed a game for so long but i'm afraid its out with the old and in with the new.

We're not easing him in, Brad is playing very well and there's no need to drop Brad at the moment.

The British press really is garbage. They're like that movie The Human Centipede, where one journalist makes shit up, poops it out into his newspaer and the rest scoop it up and eat it raw and poops it out for another one to join in. I'm glad AVB stood up to that crap, I can't believe it's allowed to make up so much lies in Britain. Why aren't there laws against this in place already? In Scandinavia journalists will be in deep shit if they try anything similar.

Hugo himself already made it public that he was fine and still adjusting to the move.

There is no frustration and there's no need to rush into selecting him when we have a keeper who's doing really well. It's bad enough having the press go on about it, how about us as fans also let this one be and let AVB decide who starts the games?
 

tototoner

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from lustdoctor via SO

http://lustdoctor.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/eiffel-awful-unbearable-life-of-hugo.html



‘Eiffel awful’: The unbearable life of Hugo Lloris


According to a widely disrespected but highly circulated tabloid newspaper, outcast goalkeeper Hugo Lloris was forced to watch Spurs’ 3-0 win at Carlisle on a grainy Arabic internet stream while handcuffed to a radiator in a north London basement.

The extreme punishment was meted out by ‘unpopular’ Spurs boss Andre Villas-Boas after Lloris demanded that Brad Friedel’s age be verified on ‘Le Jeremy Kyle Show’ amid training ground whispers that his American rival might be ‘younger than Kanu’.

These unverified revelations have prompted furious uproar back in France where former ball-handler Fabien Barthez dubbed the French international captain a ‘Prisoner of war’. Lloris, who only has 3 years and 11 months remaining on his Spurs contract, was said to be devastated to miss the Carlisle trip and the chance to sample the local delicacy of Cumberland sausage. The game’s preferred goalkeeper Carlo Cudicini is said to have inflamed matters further by posting a picture of a delicious sausage butty on Instagram.

Highly-rated Lloris, who has made a solitary appearance in Spurs colours since signing from Lyon on deadline day, is said to have reacted darkly to the latest snub. “He mopes around Spurs' training ground with a cigarette dangling from his mouth, quoting Sartre to a LOL-ing Benoit Assou-Ekotto,” said a shady insider. “He tried to convince the girls in the canteen to go on strike, but they said ‘non’.”

Meanwhile, fellow goalkeeping outcast Heurelho Gomes, who now performs as a comedy street juggler in Covent Garden under the pseudonym ‘Coco Loco’, is recovering after being injured by a rubber skittle.
 

Greenspur

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No way. You come out and cut the angles, and make sure it's not to far out as to create an opportunity for a chip. You stay on the line only for penalties.

I don't think B_S meant that staying on the line is better - just that it is a safer option in terms of avoiding criticism.
 

Greenspur

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World cup is still another season away after this one....

turning it round, Brad may have one last shot at a world cup before he is too old, he wont want to be letting someone take his spot never to be seen again for club or country.

I didnt call him a rookie, all i said was Brad is playing well and cant see him wanting to just hand the number 1 spot on, he will fight for it and Lloris has to fight for it and show he can be better than brad in the games he plays, which just now will be cup games.

I believe Brad has retired from international football.
 

GuvnorP

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he looks a fantastic acquistion. hopefully we can get him a few games in europa and carling cup to bed him in before he takes over in the league i dont think there is any major rush and Brad hasnt done anything wrong so he shud keep his shirt for the next 3/4 league games which will give Lloris further time to adjust and be ready to improve our first XI
 

Greenspur

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No matter how good Lloris is, he should not be played until he settles with his defense. Quite simply, we do not want a De Gea on our hands. Imagine if SAF had stuck with Lindegaard until De Gea had settled in, the extra few points would have resulted in a TITLE. Putting Lloris in now vs later could be the difference between a CL spot and EL.

How can he 'settle with his defense' if he doesn't play with them? And, don't say in training - that's completely different.
 

$hoguN

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No matter how good Lloris is, he should not be played until he settles with his defense. Quite simply, we do not want a De Gea on our hands. Imagine if SAF had stuck with Lindegaard until De Gea had settled in, the extra few points would have resulted in a TITLE. Putting Lloris in now vs later could be the difference between a CL spot and EL.

Lloris has a lot more experience than De Gea, and is a much better all round keeper
 

Kendall

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I don't see the need for debate, especially as Friedel has just upped his game.
 

daehanmingook

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Lloris has a lot more experience than De Gea, and is a much better all round keeper

Yes I actually agree with this, and I think AVB also knows how good of a keeper he is. We got top value for one of the world's best keepers, and brought him in now because there may never be another chance any time soon for someone of his caliber. But nonetheless, at a time when AVB is under pressure to succeed and everyone is doing something new, it's hard to place your faith on a player who is, as they say, unproven in the league, and who also plays in a position where even the slightest of mistakes can cost the game. Unlike other positions where other teammates can cover for your blunders (consider Siggy), the keeper position is very sensitive. Just because Lloris is better than De Gea was at his debut doesn't mean he will faultlessly deal with EPL attacks. Mistakes are mistakes, whether you are world-class or not. So with Brad playing as well as he is, a seasoned EPL veteran who knows the squad very well, it's only sensible that we stick with him until Lloris settles down via Europa and FA games. And I also think playing in the league cup games is a bit under him, and AVB has paid him respect by saving him the trouble of playing. I think this in itself shows that AVB highly rates Lloris, and that he is not playing simply because he is adjusting to the new team and life in England rather than having doubts about his ability. League cup games are better for players who won't be able to get game time through regular means, such as the youngsters and fringe players, of which Lloris is clearly not.

Just my opinion.
 

$hoguN

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Having watched our games this season, I would argue Friedel has been solid but hasn't been proactive enough. There have been a number of occasion where a more agile, athletic keeper could have come off his line to claim the ball or offer himself up for a pass to relieve pressure. He has made some decent saves but I think we could have expected him to do better for a couple of the goals too.

I think Lloris would thrive in the pressure of a big game like playing Utd at OT, and would be a big asset in that game.
 

Berglad

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As expected but POTL weighed in on the Lloris non-situation on COYS today:

Hugo is absolutely fine, this whole circus has been created by the media. He is [our] future, he knows that, so does Brad. Enough of all this nonsense.

POTL
 

dontcallme

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Many very talented keepers have come to the Prem, had an awful start and never recovered.

Gomes always brought up how in England players just fire the ball into the area all the time and it took a while to get used to it.

A short settling in period while Friedel is playing well is fine by me. A few weeks in training and finding his feet then Lloris can be our number one. There's no need for a media storm here.
 

Kendall

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Many very talented keepers have come to the Prem, had an awful start and never recovered.

Gomes always brought up how in England players just fire the ball into the area all the time and it took a while to get used to it.

A short settling in period while Friedel is playing well is fine by me. A few weeks in training and finding his feet then Lloris can be our number one. There's no need for a media storm here.

Exactly. Training with tall physical presences in the box like Caulker, Bale, Dawson and Ade will help Lloris, particularly while he undergoes a period of life settlement.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Get him in the bloody side for God sake. He's up against a 41 year old

This isn't even funny anymore. We've spent the equivalent of 40 odd million quid on an outfield player getting the French Captain in.

If Brad is better than him in training then we have wasted a lot of money which could have been spent elsewhere!!

a 41 year old, FORTY ONE, forty ****ing one. Wake up and smell the coffee AVB
 

RichieS

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Get him in the bloody side for God sake. He's up against a 41 year old

This isn't even funny anymore. We've spent the equivalent of 40 odd million quid on an outfield player getting the French Captain in.

If Brad is better than him in training then we have wasted a lot of money which could have been spent elsewhere!!

a 41 year old, FORTY ONE, forty ****ing one. Wake up and smell the coffee AVB
What's Brad's age got to do with the price of fish? Assuming/insinuating that someone's incapable of something due to the age is the exact definition of ageism...
 

sbrustad

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What's Brad's age got to do with the price of fish? Assuming/insinuating that someone's incapable of something due to the age is the exact definition of ageism...

Well the fact that players over 40 years of age in the Premier League can be counted on one hand probably lends credence to his argument. Having said that, Brad Friedel is a model professional and I don't think he shows signs of "high" (in footballing terms) age. I do however think that Lloris is a better goalkeeper.
 

raf18

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Brad should be dropped after that performance. He didn't even dive for half the goals. I know its easy to say "Lloris could have saved that" but i reckon Lloris would have stopped mata's close range goal because he's so quick off his line. As for the other mata goal... all Brad did was stand still and watch. For me that's so annoying to see.
 
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