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marvel

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I loved him when he was at Spurs but we have moved on and progressed without him. He's not a Spurs imo.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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It's up there on a par with singing for Jermain Defoe when he played for Pompey as Darren Bent was scoring a hat trick for us. Or singing 'super Pav' when Crouch scored a hat trick for us against Young Boys.

I've been to Fulham away every year for the last 4 years (even twice last year including FA Cup) but it was the sole reason I didn't go this year.

I loved Martin Jol when he was our manager, but he's not anymore. I wouldn't expect us to sing for George Graham if he came out of nowhere and started managing again, and he won a trophy for us.

It's just disrespectful, especially when Harry wasn't there for medical reasons.

Yeah, didn't think it was right to be singing Jols name so much or even at all. I could maybe understand once at the start although I wouldn't have joined in but there were half dozen songs throughout the game. Strange. There's something about Jol that I'm not keen on. Even taking away the fact that Redknapps a better manager and done much more for us, I just like him more as the spearhead of our club. The players like him more and there seems to be a better atmosphere around the club.
 

jonathanhotspur

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No I wouldn't have him back. He's also not a great man or a Spurs legend.

Some people need to build a bridge and get the fuck over Martin Jol. Singing for him while our current manager recovers from heart surgery is fucking disgusting.

I'm no Harry lover but I agree with you here, Spurs_Bear. I'm glad Redknapp wasn't there for it. I think it's embarrassing.
 

Legend10

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I love Martin Jol, he was our second longest serving PL manager after Gerry Francis, he brought us forward a long way and stepped in after Santini gave in after five minutes. The way his sacking was handled was poor, but I'm also aware of the story that he had talks about the Newcastle job while he was still at Spurs, so...

But the thing that makes me love BMJ is his post match conversation with a ref (I think at Old Trafford)

BMJ knocks on refs door, walks in.
"I want to talk to your about your performance on TV. Is it alright if I call you a prick?"
"No, it is not."
"Is it all right if I think you're a prick?"
"You can think whatever you like."
"Okay...I think you're a prick."


That's an old football story from years and years ago!

You really believed that Jol had that conversation?
 

Spurger King

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I love/loved Martin Jol, but I remember that season when we started poorly, and it seemed so obvious that he needed to go. Sort of like that moment when you realise that the girl you're with is great, but simply not the one...then dumping her in front of loads of people and dating a Spanish bird that can't speak English instead.
 

gregga

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Harry is a better manager but he could take a few lessons from Jol on fan rapport.

Not calling them idiots in post-match interviews would be a good start.

Whilst it's unfortunate timing that the reunion with Jol took place when Harry was unwell, many people still have a lot of love for Jol and I don't see how it's pathetic or embarrassing to communicate that feeling.
 

tttcowan

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I love/loved Martin Jol, but I remember that season when we started poorly, and it seemed so obvious that he needed to go. Sort of like that moment when you realise that the girl you're with is great, but simply not the one...then dumping her in front of loads of people and dating a Spanish bird that can't speak English instead.

:rofl:
 

SpurSince57

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The genius that is Jol. Just when they needed a goal and were knocking on the door he took off their two most creative players and brought on a defensive midfielder.

Yes, I noticed the way their attacks just petered out completely the moment Duff came off. After that they just sat back and invited us to attack them. They hardly created a chance in the last 20 minutes, did they?
 

Mr Pink

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I think Bear has a point tbh. Harry has done brillantly and as much I love big Martin as a person, and he did lay decent foundations, the former is most definitely the better manager.

How about singing for Harry and all he's done instead of pandering to the likable Martin Jol....its not a popularity contest for christ sake.

Yes exchange pleasantries and banter, show respect, but ultimately we should of been singing for Harry today...not bum rimming an ex-manager :wink:
 

SpurSince57

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He most certainly does, and I also think the OP is bloody silly. So is B-C's nonsense.
 

Bus-Conductor

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No I wouldn't have him back. He's also not a great man or a Spurs legend.

Some people need to build a bridge and get the fuck over Martin Jol. Singing for him while our current manager recovers from heart surgery is fucking disgusting.

I'm no Harry lover but I agree with you here, Spurs_Bear. I'm glad Redknapp wasn't there for it. I think it's embarrassing.

thirded. Well said Bear.
 

mpickard2087

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:lol: How did I know a thread like this would be started today.

No, hes part of our past not our future. Move on. I also back what Spurs_Bear said, the singing is getting tedious and it should of been 'Arry getting the support.
 

Mr Pink

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I actually hope we sing our hearts out for Harry at WHL against Villa, or whenever he returns to show our appreciation for all the work he's done and the progression he has brought to the Club in the last 3 years...particularly when you consider he's just had an operation.
 

bomberH

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That's an old football story from years and years ago!

You really believed that Jol had that conversation?

Jol told this story himself. Think it was at the AGM.

Did anyone see the group of lads who had the letters on their shirts spelling out 'i love Martin Jol' on the front and 'get well Harry' on the back? Always nice to welcome back players or managers that did well for Spurs and I have no problem with the song. I do think, however, that Harry Redknapp's blue and white army should've been sung a lot louder and more often than it was. If ever we needed to show him how much most fans think of him, it was today.

Hopefully at Villa it'll be a lot louder.
 

3Dnata

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That's an old football story from years and years ago!

You really believed that Jol had that conversation?
I've heard Gaza use that story before and the first exposure I've had to it was Fletcher to a prison warder in an episode of Porridge.
 

mpickard2087

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Jol told this story himself. Think it was at the AGM.

Did anyone see the group of lads who had the letters on their shirts spelling out 'i love Martin Jol' on the front and 'get well Harry' on the back? Always nice to welcome back players or managers that did well for Spurs and I have no problem with the song. I do think, however, that Harry Redknapp's blue and white army should've been sung a lot louder and more often than it was. If ever we needed to show him how much most fans think of him, it was today.

Hopefully at Villa it'll be a lot louder.

That actually wound me up quite a bit at the time, meant as a nice gesture I'm sure but who can see it on the back? People see a picture of it in the media and its just Spurs fans praising Jol, it should of been 'Get Well Harry' on the front.
 

ibbz

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With you on this one added to the fact our current manager is massiveky superior

LOL!

Bollocks, our present manager is NOT 'massively superior"

If anything Jol is superior, our manager has a FAR better team than Jol ever did and our Manager finished 4th once and 5th once, 4th cos the Scouse were SHIT and Chelsea Manure and Arse were no way in the standard Jol had to deal with.

Redknapp is an over rated Manager.

Thats my opinion, so if you differ, differ, me no care
 

bomberH

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That actually wound me up quite a bit at the time, meant as a nice gesture I'm sure but who can see it on the back? People see a picture of it in the media and its just Spurs fans praising Jol, it should of been 'Get Well Harry' on the front.


Completely agree.

LOL!

Bollocks, our present manager is NOT 'massively superior"

If anything Jol is superior, our manager has a FAR better team than Jol ever did and our Manager finished 4th once and 5th once, 4th cos the Scouse were SHIT and Chelsea Manure and Arse were no way in the standard Jol had to deal with.

Redknapp is an over rated Manager.

Thats my opinion, so if you differ, differ, me no care

:lol: Brilliant.

You're joking, right?
 
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