Morgan Schneiderlin Signs For United

[SHaRD]

Remind me again which players got us into our ONE season of CL football? Redknapp may well have thrown them all under the bus after that, but each & every one of the players you say "didn't especially work out" were mainstays in the team that got us into the CL.

Bill Nich got us CL in 1961-2 don't forget, so it was our second season in it.

All 4 were decent squad players, but never became core players for us. Considering they cost about £42m combined too.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Bill Nich got us CL in 1961-2 don't forget, so it was our second season in it.

All 4 were decent squad players, but never became core players for us. Considering they cost about £42m combined too.

LOL, come on SHaRD, you know what I meant by CL, ya sneaky bastard ..

The players I responded about were all core players in 2010. I didn't rate the likes of Defoe, but until we'd actually qualified for CL, him & the rest of the players in that post were nothing but regulars. That's what pissed so many of them off (and a fair few supporters, too). They got us that 4th place, at the expense of Man City, and then they were practically exiled from first team pitch time. The likes of Corluka, Kranjcar, and even Harry's darling, Defoe, were all pretty much treated like total shit.

 

[FinnYid]

Really dissappointed in Poch due this pursuit, doesn't make him look much of an manager. It's not that MS isn't a good player, he is, but he isn't any rare gem and desperate pursuit just due working with him before makes Poch look unsecure and unprofessional. I mean Harry liked his ex-players, but MS on quoted prices is that on speed.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Really dissappointed in Poch due this pursuit, doesn't make him look much of an manager. It's not that MS isn't a good player, he is, but he isn't any rare gem and desperate pursuit just due working with him before makes Poch look unsecure and unprofessional. I mean Harry liked his ex-players, but MS on quoted prices is that on speed.

The fuck?

He's an exceptional CDM. Who cares if he used to play under Pochettino? Are you saying we shouldn't buy players simply because they played under our manager at a former club?

OK, let's give up them and let Schneiderlin go to one of our rivals. Let's go for another Stambouli instead. Because that worked out well.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Really dissappointed in Poch due this pursuit, doesn't make him look much of an manager. It's not that MS isn't a good player, he is, but he isn't any rare gem and desperate pursuit just due working with him before makes Poch look unsecure and unprofessional. I mean Harry liked his ex-players, but MS on quoted prices is that on speed.

How wonderfully narrow-minded that post is ..

OF COURSE there are other players that could be considered by Pochettino, but.......

Are they PL proven?

Are they going to buy into Pochettino's training methods?

Are they going to embrace his match day tactics?

Are they even going to like, or get along with Pochettino?

Is Pochettino going to get on with those alternative targets?

Is Pochettino going to be able trust those alternative targets?

You CAN'T answer those questions, when pertaining to possible options that aren't called Schneiderlin.

You CAN answer those questions when talking about Schneiderlin. And guess what? The answer to all of those questions is a resounding YES!!

Sorry Finn, but I don't know how else your post could be responded to, and I hope you'll not respond in the same way as you have in the past

 

[FinnYid]

He's an exceptional CDM. Who cares if he used to play under Pochettino? Are you saying we shouldn't buy players simply because they played under our manager at a former club?

He isn't exceptional, he is just good PL midfielder that will in all likelihood end up as huge flop due price tag, especially if Poch is done by the end of the season (hardly impossible). He is good player, he isn't £35m player in any planet.

OK, let's give up them and let Schneiderlin go to one of our rivals.

Like we did with Lovren and Lallana?

 

[FinnYid]

How wonderfully narrow-minded that post is ..

OF COURSE there are other players that could be considered by Pochettino, but.......

Are they PL proven?

Are they going to buy into Pochettino's training methods?

Are they going to embrace his match day tactics?

Are they even going to like, or get along with Pochettino?

Is Pochettino going to get on with those alternative targets?

Is Pochettino going to be able trust those alternative targets?

You CAN'T answer those questions, when pertaining to possible options that aren't called Schneiderlin.

True, hence we are paying over the odds due unsecure Poch. We are paying huge premium because manager worked with him before. Then again perhaps we should pay ridiculous amount just so we won't be having another "he would've reached the stars if Daniel would've given him Moutinho" situation in the future (of course if we had gotten Moutinho, then the excuse would've been the next we would've failed to sign).

 

[worcestersauce]

Really dissappointed in Poch due this pursuit, doesn't make him look much of an manager. It's not that MS isn't a good player, he is, but he isn't any rare gem and desperate pursuit just due working with him before makes Poch look unsecure and unprofessional. I mean Harry liked his ex-players, but MS on quoted prices is that on speed.

Good bad brilliant or fucking useless it doesn't matter, Pochottino knows that he can do exactly what he wants him to do, he absolutely knows it! Any other player he can only hope they can do it, they may well do so but it is still a gamble even if they are world class and cost thirty odd million and he is coming to his best now so it is a no brainer.
As for the price, bugger it, Schneiderlin has had it with Southampton, they treated him like shit last summer, they said he could leave, agreed a fee, allowed him to agree terms and then went back on their word after allowing other players to go. They can threaten to keep him all they like and shout about whatever price they want but they are pissing in the wind because he won't stand for another year of their two faced deceit, to his credit he accepted the situation and gave them his best all season, very professional, but he'll fight it this time.
I wouldn't do it you wouldn't do it and neither will he.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

He isn't exceptional, he is just good PL midfielder that will in all likelihood end up as huge flop due price tag, especially if Poch is done by the end of the season (hardly impossible). He is good player, he isn't £35m player in any planet.



Like we did with Lovren and Lallana?

1. Maybe exceptional was too strong, but he is still the 2nd best CDM in the PL in my eyes
2. So now you're saying we shouldn't buy him because he will be a flop? He has PL experience, which reduces the chance of that happening a lot.
3.£25m, not £35m, and I think that's reasonable for a club's best player and one of the best in his position in the league
4. We never actually bid for Lovren or Lallana and we apparently didn't even want Lallana.

 

[FinnYid]

Good bad brilliant or fucking useless it doesn't matter, Pochottino knows that he can do exactly what he wants him to do, he absolutely knows it!

Well, if we are throwing him some £35m for player of Schneiderlins stature we ought to make it clear with him - you don't achieve top 4, you are out of job. We are not Chelsea, City, ManUtd or even Arsenal - we don't have money to throw around for every whim of every manager.Should make him rethink his position in this.

Clubs that spent such over £35m on single player this season: Barcelona, Real Madrid, ManU, PSG, City and Arsenal, season before Barcelona, Real, PSG, Monaco, ManU, Arsenal, ManCity, season before Zenit, PSG, Bayern, Chelsea. And we are entering the frame with sole German purchase in 3 seasons and no Serie A purchases over 3 seasons with Morgan Schneiderlin?

 

[talkshowhost86]

Like we did with Lovren and Lallana?

I'd still take Lovren and Lallana over Chiriches and Lamela.

Point is that any time you spend a lot it's a risk. But if that player has already proved himself in the league you play in it reduces the risk to a certain extent.

 

[chinaman]

Bill Nich got us CL in 1961-2 don't forget, so it was our second season in it.

All 4 were decent squad players, but never became core players for us. Considering they cost about £42m combined too.

In both name and technicality, it wasn't CL in 1962. It was a Knockout competition and was called European Cup.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Well, if we are throwing him some £35m for player of Schneiderlins stature we ought to make it clear with him - you don't achieve top 4, you are out of job. We are not Chelsea, City, ManUtd or even Arsenal - we don't have money to throw around for every whim of every manager.Should make him rethink his position in this.

Clubs that spent such over £35m on single player this season: Barcelona, Real Madrid, ManU, PSG, City and Arsenal, season before Barcelona, Real, PSG, Monaco, ManU, Arsenal, ManCity, season before Zenit, PSG, Bayern, Chelsea. And we are entering the frame with sole German purchase in 3 seasons and no Serie A purchases over 3 seasons with Morgan Schneiderlin?

I'm sorry to say this again, but where have you got this £35m figure from?

 

[worcestersauce]

Well, if we are throwing him some £35m for player of Schneiderlins stature we ought to make it clear with him - you don't achieve top 4, you are out of job. We are not Chelsea, City, ManUtd or even Arsenal - we don't have money to throw around for every whim of every manager.Should make him rethink his position in this.

Clubs that spent such over £35m on single player this season: Barcelona, Real Madrid, ManU, PSG, City and Arsenal, season before Barcelona, Real, PSG, Monaco, ManU, Arsenal, ManCity, season before Zenit, PSG, Bayern, Chelsea. And we are entering the frame with sole German purchase in 3 seasons and no Serie A purchases over 3 seasons with Morgan Schneiderlin?

We won't pay anything like £35million for him nor will we need to, Southampton have to let him go this summer or they've got a player who won't play for them.

 

[FinnYid]

I'd still take Lovren and Lallana over Chiriches and Lamela.

Point is that any time you spend a lot it's a risk. But if that player has already proved himself in the league you play in it reduces the risk to a certain extent.

From Bentley to Bent shows it still doesn't take away the risk though.

 

[talkshowhost86]

From Bentley to Bent shows it still doesn't take away the risk though.

Very true. Like I said it only reduces the risk rather than taking it away.

But my point is there's no particular reason to worry more about Schneiderlin than anyone else, and if anything the fact that Poch knows him and he's been a success in this league makes him a much safer bet.

And there's no way we'd pay £35m so don't worry on that front.

 

[jezz]

Pay the focking fee.
I takes 6 months to learn Pochs way.
This guy is ready made for the system.
If it gains us 6 points in the earlier games this could be vital come the run in next season.
If we don't get this guy Poch has a ready made excuse if it goes wrong.
Get him, there can be no excuses then and we will see if Poch is the best man for the job.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Well, if we are throwing him some £35m for player of Schneiderlins stature we ought to make it clear with him - you don't achieve top 4, you are out of job. We are not Chelsea, City, ManUtd or even Arsenal - we don't have money to throw around for every whim of every manager.Should make him rethink his position in this.

Clubs that spent such over £35m on single player this season: Barcelona, Real Madrid, ManU, PSG, City and Arsenal, season before Barcelona, Real, PSG, Monaco, ManU, Arsenal, ManCity, season before Zenit, PSG, Bayern, Chelsea. And we are entering the frame with sole German purchase in 3 seasons and no Serie A purchases over 3 seasons with Morgan Schneiderlin?

Even if we didn't sign MS this summer if Poch does not achieve CL next season or get very close to then he will be gone regardless. Spurs boards never base their decisions on whether they have 'backed' the manager.

 

[talkshowhost86]

For those who've seen more of Southampton than me this season, Do we think he'd work with Bentaleb?

My concern is still that they are a bit similar positionally, in that neither is an out and out defensive midfielder but neither really gets forward that much either.

I suppose the hope is that Bentaleb can get forward more, and I think he does have that in his locker, but I am concerned about whether it's the ideal partnership.

 

[TheAmerican]

For those who've seen more of Southampton than me this season, Do we think he'd work with Bentaleb?

My concern is still that they are a bit similar positionally, in that neither is an out and out defensive midfielder but neither really gets forward that much either.

I suppose the hope is that Bentaleb can get forward more, and I think he does have that in his locker, but I am concerned about whether it's the ideal partnership.

I think we'd see a change in play fromBentaleb rather than Schneiderlin. I suspect Bentaleb will be given more range to roam and attack, whereas Schneiderlin will play the same role as he does at Southampton. I actually think Bentaleb could be quite good going forward more, too.