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hero

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I wanted to see us blow everything up (for the most part) and start over. Crack a few eggs to make an omelette. Poch feels like a comfort zone hire.
Absolutely! I am afraid he will be a yes man as he loves the club. On top of that he did not use academy players. His stubbornness on transfer market may lead to the same case with zero transfers. Anyway, I hope I am wrong.
 

spurs9

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Does Gallardo speak a word of English? He's spent 21 of the previous 28 years in Argentina, 5 in France and 1 in the US. I'm not saying he's not a fabulous coach but limited or non-existent English and very limited exposure to European football is an issue.
His English is as good as Poch's when he joined Southampton and Bielsa's when he joined Leeds.
 

RuskyM

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The dismissal of Poch’s time here to me is just being ungrateful. Comfortably the best manager we’ve had in decades. If this job was so easy, the proven winners we’ve hired since would’ve done better. Neither have come close, despite playing shite football specifically to win. Reducing it to the final year - a year that included a European Cup Final - is a bit gross. You can have doubts but let’s be fair here.
 

tony0379

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I’m really worried about Poch. Love the guy, but just feels a missed opportunity to really try to move forward and I think it could sour quickly.

if he is the one, it has to be with a strong DOF and a much improved scouting & roster strategy setup.

The Poch/Levy combo on their own was a disaster in recruiting. 175M in pre-inflation xfer fees on Sanchez, Ndombele, GLC and Sess to be pillars of a team. It’s crippled our roster for years. An absolute disaster class. Also were horrible about loaning out youth players to get experience.

We’re going to have to find some astute buys in defense, attack and a creative player.

Have a hard time seeing how Kane or Son fit into a Poch high press scheme at this point.
Maybe we'll cash in on them this summer
 

rossdapep

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It is a good point, Santini and Ramos didn't speak a word of English and they couldn't replicate their success from other countries partly down to this I believe.
Bielsa was connected with his Leeds team.

He got them back in PL whereas many others failed.

But yeah, it can be a problem if they cant find another way to get that message across
 

George94

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Whoever the manager is next season needs at least two new first team quality defenders (three if they want to continue playing 3-5-2) and goalkeeper as a starting point - so I look forward to seeing how that pans out... :cautious:
 

Scot-Spur

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Cling on? My man, Levy OWNS the club. There's no clinging about it. Unless you've got upwards of £5b or you know someone who does who is willing to part with it then I suggest you get used to Mr. Levy because he's going to be here until someone does come along with that kind of wedge and then, and only then will he saunter off into the sunset. That's not a defence of Levy or his performance as chairman, that's just stating the bare facts of the situation.
Levy owns *part* of the club actually.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Like you, I'd prefer Gallardo because I think he could really do something here. But, as another poster pointed out, it might be best if we get #PochBack out of our system now otherwise it will likely hang over every manager we might appoint whenever we hit a rough patch.

I guess either Poch will come in and it will work out (I'm sceptical about that) and we'll be happy, aside from the absolute waste of the last 3 years. Or it won't work out and we'll just have wasted 4 years to be in the exact same position we were the first time he left but able to move on fully (provided something finally changes at the top).
Thing is, in the future I would love to see Poch back. When he’s managed another real team, done well and grown tactically and we have moved on from the mess of the last few seasons and all the players he managed before have long gone. Then it wouldn’t be a nostalgia hire who we are turning to in desperation and for lack of a better idea. That would be how I want to see him return and that is the way we would maybe see success with him again.

But to bring him back now for me feels so intrinsically wrong and signifies the complete and utter lack of understanding for football those in control of our team have. It would be an appointment birthed from complete and utter desperation.

Now is the time for fresh ideas, fresh football, a fresh start. We need to look toward the future not yet again be stuck in the past. I love him like the rest of us do but now is not the time for the return of Poch. This to me just feels like yet again another completely illogical move from our club. As was Conte, as was Nuno and as was Jose.
 
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Mackan110

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Kompany would be well worth a gamble I think, love the way he has Burnley playing.

He could get Yaya in as his n.o2.
I agree! Like i said i haven't seen them play but many people are saying they play really good.
Would be amazing to see kompany and Yaya together. Think they would to really well. I'm thinking kompany is a "new" Pochettino. A manager that is new to the game and have a good spirit and emotional
 

specspurs

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Thing is, in the future I would love to see Poch back. When he’s managed another real team, done well and grown tactically and we have moved on from the mess of the last few seasons and all the players he managed before have long gone. Then it wouldn’t be a nostalgia hire who we are turning to in desperation and for lack of a better idea. That would be how I want to see him return and that is the way we would maybe see success with him again.

But to bring him back now for me feels so intrinsically wrong and signifies the complete and utter lack of understanding for football those in control of our team have. It would be an appointment birthed from complete and utter desperation.

Now is the time for fresh ideas, fresh football, a fresh start. We need to look toward the future not yet again be stuck in the past. I love him like the rest of us so but now is not the time for the return of Poch. This to me just feels like yet again another completely illogical move from our club. As was Conte, as was Nuno and as was Jose.

But to bring him back now for me feels so intrinsically wrong and signifies the complete and utter lack of understanding for football those in control of our team have. It would be an appointment birthed from complete and utter desperation.
This, a thousand times this.
 

parj

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Interested as to why you think poch would end in disaster. We would have gone through 2 serial winners in Conte & Jose that got us nowhere. Why would poch be more likely than any other to end in disaster? The chance now, imo, based on previous experience is that under the current board - no one could succeed.
Can't be any more of a disaster then Nuno, Jose or Conte.

It's incredible people think Poch will be a disaster. Since he left, we have literally only had a 6 month spell where sacking Poch paid off. 6 months out of 3 years, and after spending over £250m! We are way worse off. We aren't competitive, we play crap football, and every manager is "he only has Pochs players". Poch had those bloody players playing in a UCL final!

Arteta is treated better and his team were laughable at times.

I would love Gallardo or someone like him. I think Poch will be the safest hands cos he knows the reality of managing us and loves us. He has the passion and brings positivity.
 
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parj

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I agree! Like i said i haven't seen them play but many people are saying they play really good.
Would be amazing to see kompany and Yaya together. Think they would to really well. I'm thinking kompany is a "new" Pochettino. A manager that is new to the game and have a good spirit and emotional
He will go City at some point or Belgium national team. We will literally be a stop gap for him. But he will be a great appointment for us.
 

glacierSpurs

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Thing is, in the future I would love to see Poch back. When he’s managed another real team, done well and grown tactically and we have moved on from the mess of the last few seasons and all the players he managed before have long gone. Then it wouldn’t be a nostalgia hire who we are turning to in desperation and for lack of a better idea. That would be how I want to see him return and that is the way we would maybe see success with him again.

But to bring him back now for me feels so intrinsically wrong and signifies the complete and utter lack of understanding for football those in control of our team have. It would be an appointment birthed from complete and utter desperation.

Now is the time for fresh ideas, fresh football, a fresh start. We need to look toward the future not yet again be stuck in the past. I love him like the rest of us so but now is not the time for the return of Poch. This to me just feels like yet again another completely illogical move from our club. As was Conte, as was Nuno and as was Jose.
And Levy will get away once again which I utterly hate. Poch coming back will also be the ultimate waste of 3 years.
 

delawarespur

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Thing is, in the future I would love to see Poch back. When he’s managed another real team, done well and grown tactically and we have moved on from the mess of the last few seasons and all the players he managed before have long gone. Then it wouldn’t be a nostalgia hire who we are turning to in desperation and for lack of a better idea. That would be how I want to see him return and that is the way we would maybe see success with him again.

But to bring him back now for me feels so intrinsically wrong and signifies the complete and utter lack of understanding for football those in control of our team have. It would be an appointment birthed from complete and utter desperation.

Now is the time for fresh ideas, fresh football, a fresh start. We need to look toward the future not yet again be stuck in the past. I love him like the rest of us so but now is not the time for the return of Poch. This to me just feels like yet again another completely illogical move from our club. As was Conte, as was Nuno and as was Jose.
It’s this a billion times over for me. The whole club needs a factory reset with a proper long term plan with fresh ideas. Not a nostalgia trip that works because it’s convenient. The quality of Poch isn’t the issue as he has shown. He might come back and it’s a fairytale. If he was a significant level above other options I might feel different. But it just doesn’t feel fresh for me yet because I still feel there’s still a trace of his first stint still at the club. That for me needs to be completely eradicated before he returns. And most of all it doesn’t strike me as a step forward into a new era with a concrete plan to create success. And that’s what this club needs.
 
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