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MOTM

  • Lloris

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Aurier

    Votes: 42 21.8%
  • Dier

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Verts

    Votes: 8 4.1%
  • Rose

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Winks

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 54 28.0%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 9 4.7%
  • Son

    Votes: 45 23.3%
  • Kane

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Dembele

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Dele

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Davies

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Poch

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 15 7.8%

  • Total voters
    193

Bulletspur

The Reasonable Advocate
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Oct 17, 2006
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For the record, Sissoko was not the worse on the pitch but once some of you hate or have an agenda.....................
 

fortworthspur

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Nov 12, 2007
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kane - 5
son - 5.5
ericksen - 5
lamela - 5
winks -5
sissoko - 6
rose - 4
aurier - 5
verts - 7
dier -7
lloris - 7
 

Flashspur

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Jul 28, 2012
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Tough one this. A match of two halves. The first one where we huffed and puffed and the second where we started to take the game by the scruff of the neck.

A great goal by Serge even if it was not meant to happen. Sonny is on a hot streak and looks to score in any match at the moment. Harry Kane Esquire quite muted I thought and missed a couple of sitters on another day. Kudos to the defence marshalled well by Dier. Serge had a good game. Winks was off but you expect that from a 21 year old, he'll come back stronger. For all round performance and energy and getting in their faces,

I have to give it to Lamela. This lad gave the others a lesson in quick thinking and quick passing. He was easily the smartest player on the pitch tonight with a few of our other established stars having the night off it seems. A nice dirty work your ass off win. Exactly what was needed. Now bring on the Mancs. Boy, would I love our lads to wipe the smile of that bald headed **** of a manager. He needs bringing down to earth.

Please God, don't let us go all Spursy at their manor.
 

allpaths

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Oct 31, 2014
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For the record, Sissoko was not the worse on the pitch but once some of you hate or have an agenda.....................
honestly what at all did he do all game, the only posistive play i recall from him was a nice run beyond Kane were he got off a half decent shot. Because otherwise I just dont get it.
 

jonnyp

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Jun 11, 2006
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I think we play far too narrow against these teams. We need to double up wide, quick one-two's and one touch combinations. We hardly do it, but when we do is the only time we look threatening against these teams. Our players seem to look infield way too often. When I watch Liverpool or Arsenal against these teams they try to get the ball wide as quickly as possible with one-two's, overlaps etc

We just seem stuck passing it backwards and sideways in the middle, congesting it, and our wingbacks are left out wide with little to no support.

I also don't understand why our players pass it backwards just because they can when there's no need to.
 
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Coyboy

The Double of 1961 is still The Double
Dec 3, 2004
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For the record, Sissoko was not the worse on the pitch but once some of you hate or have an agenda.....................

It’s not an agenda. Why would anyone have an agenda? I’d love for him to be excel or even be an asset to the club. But sadly, he’s just not up to it and I’d rather he was just moved on because he’s far more of a liability than an asset.
 

TheVoiceofReason

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Feb 5, 2005
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For the record, Sissoko was not the worse on the pitch but once some of you hate or have an agenda.....................

True, I think a lot of fans do have an agenda against him. But is it not justified? Winks had a rare bad game and the general team performance wasn’t good. But it’s nothing new to see Sissoko slowing down moves by tripping over the ball, and roaming aimlessly around the midfield.

The most annoying thing he does every single game is he always seems to pass behind the feet of the player he is passing to, meaning they have to turn their back to goal which effectively kills the momentum of the move. So yeah, to be honest, I hate seeing him in the team, and I do have an agenda.
 

GobbyJJ

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Jan 31, 2013
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I think we play far too narrow against these teams. We need to double up wide, quick one-two's and one touch combinations. We hardly do it, but when we do is the only time we look threatening against these teams. Our players seem to look infield way too often. When I watch Liverpool or Arsenal against these teams they try to get the ball wide as quickly as possible with one-two's, overlaps etc

We just seem stuck passing it backwards and sideways in the middle, congesting it, and our wingbacks are left out wide with little to no support.

I also don't understand why our players pass it backwards just because they can when there's no need to.
I actually agree with your point but Arsenal & Liverpool as examples of how to play against bus parkers? After last night?
 

HW61

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Aug 31, 2012
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For the record, Sissoko was not the worse on the pitch but once some of you hate or have an agenda.....................
Fair comment. He may be clumsy and so not right for Spurs. But I see a player trying hard with a spurs shirt on. So he’ll get my support as long as that stays the case and Poch feels he deserves a place in the team.
 

Spurrific

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Jun 2, 2011
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For me, the problem is being exasperated by the fact that not once this season has Poch actually got the blend and balance completely right. Some of that is because of injuries, but some is due to selections.

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davidmatzdorf

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Jun 7, 2004
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No one got booed. People were frustrated when a ball that could easily have gone forward went backward instead.

Not enough credit is being given to Brighton here. They did what Stoke tried to do, but they did it effectively and stuck at it, whereas Stoke did it badly and gave up after they went 2 down. Hughton knows how to organise a defence and we played badly in large part because they concentrated very hard on not letting us play well.

Nevertheless, if you apply pressure for 90% of the match, usually something will happen and it did, twice. You have to win these games. Last season, we won them because our defence was impregnable and we kept clean sheets. This season we have dropped points by giving away early goals against the run of play. Today, despite not having Wanyama & Alderwerireld, we didn't do that.

Not a pleasant spectacle, but an effective win. I'll give my MotM to Aurier, who was fast and effective, as well as scoring his fluke. Lamela close behind.
 

Coyboy

The Double of 1961 is still The Double
Dec 3, 2004
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No one got booed. People were frustrated when a ball that could easily have gone forward went backward instead.

Not enough credit is being given to Brighton here. They did what Stoke tried to do, but they did it effectively and stuck at it, whereas Stoke did it badly and gave up after they went 2 down. Hughton knows how to organise a defence and we played badly in large part because they concentrated very hard on not letting us play well.

Nevertheless, if you apply pressure for 90% of the match, usually something will happen and it did, twice. You have to win these games. Last season, we won them because our defence was impregnable and we kept clean sheets. This season we have dropped points by giving away early goals against the run of play. Today, despite not having Wanyama & Alderwerireld, we didn't do that.

Not a pleasant spectacle, but an effective win. I'll give my MotM to Aurier, who was fast and effective, as well as scoring his fluke. Lamela close behind.

Agreed, there were definitely no boos- just collective groans.
 

Spurrific

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Jun 2, 2011
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Kane is slightly injured, in my opinion. He wasn't moving around properly at all yesterday.
 

Hakkz

Svensk hetsporre
Jul 6, 2012
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I didn't think anyone really stood out. Except for maybe Rose (not in a good way).

So so happy to see Lamela playing football again though :love:
 

Coyboy

The Double of 1961 is still The Double
Dec 3, 2004
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Kane, Winks & Alli.

Alli was on for 15 minutes; and I don't agree that Sissoko outperformed Winks; and saying he 'outperformed' Kane isn't really possible. It's not a fair comparison given their roles, and in any case Kane is allowed bad games because of all the credit he has in the bank. Sissoko is massively overdrawn. Winks had a bad game but always made himself available for the ball and used it accurately, if conservatively, far more often than not. Probably knowing he is incapable of using the ball well and therefore not having any confidence, Sissoko went through a phase of actively avoiding the ball, getting in the way and pointing for players to pass it elsewhere.

I would really like him to be better, to do well because that would automatically mean we as a team/squad were better. People can disagree all they want about there being no agenda here (others may I don't know) but I do not have one against him or any other player. He's just not up to it and while Winks, Alli, Kane and others may well have bad games we all know they have technical ability (Kane to a great extent), Sissoko sadly does not and it weakens us.
 
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bomberH

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Jun 4, 2005
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For the record, Sissoko was not the worse on the pitch but once some of you hate or have an agenda.....................

Just because he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch it doesn’t mean people have an agenda when they criticise him. Maybe they just see the same thing from him week in week out and they don’t think he offers enough for a top 6 side, so they point that out in here. It is a ratings thread and if people don’t think he had a good game they’ll rate him accordingly. I don’t know why some of you can’t accept this and keep putting it down to an ‘agenda’. I posted one of only 2 negative posts I’ve ever made about Sissoko on here and I’ve got an agenda? Ok.

I really dislike him as a player but his saving grace for me is that he pretty much always gives 100% so in my books anyone who does that doesn’t deserve any disrespect from the crowd at the games. But we have a right to criticise his performance amongst other Spurs fans online if we don’t think it’s good enough and, along with most of the team last night, it wasn’t.

He’s a very obviously limited player. I don’t understand why some think he’s good enough for the team when he continues to prove otherwise. Some may blame Poch for playing him, it’s not like Sissoko will say ‘I’m not good enough boss, don’t play me’. But all I see from the Sissoko fans on the ratings threads over the past few weeks is ‘he wasn’t our worst player’ etc. If that’s the most positive thing you can say about someone then it’s not the best praise in the world is it?

If someone disagrees with this, it would be nice if they would explain why rather than just clicking on ‘disagree’ because it seems a lot of you just click on disagree whenever there’s a negative post about Sissoko without explaining why. I’m genuinely interested to hear the counter arguments. So if you click disagree and don’t explain why, I’ll assume you can’t think of any sensible response.

;)
 
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